Awesome news Eric, glad to hear you're Hillborne is back on the road!
JohnS
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 5:17:41 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
> After twenty miles today with no chain jumping I'm calling this solved.
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> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 11:42:39 AM UTC-4
huzzah!
On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 10:12:15 AM UTC-4 ride2almo...@gmail.com wrote:
> What a great outcome
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:09 AM Eric Marth wrote:
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>> Thanks, Ryan and Danny. Just rode another 3 miles on a quick bank errand,
>> no skips. Will have to try a longer ride when it
What a great outcome
On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:09 AM Eric Marth wrote:
> Thanks, Ryan and Danny. Just rode another 3 miles on a quick bank errand,
> no skips. Will have to try a longer ride when it dries out.
>
> Also installed a Brooks Pro I purchased from Two Wheeled Texan's Grand
>
Thanks, Ryan and Danny. Just rode another 3 miles on a quick bank errand,
no skips. Will have to try a longer ride when it dries out.
Also installed a Brooks Pro I purchased from Two Wheeled Texan's Grand
Relocation Parts Blowout and I liked it!
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 10:15:42 PM
Glad this saga had a happy ending!I bet you're relieved
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 8:20:22 PM UTC-5 Danny wrote:
> Ooops, didn't see your update just before I posted. Glad you got it worked
> out!
>
> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 8:16:54 PM UTC-5 Danny wrote:
>
>> I'm curious to hear what
Ooops, didn't see your update just before I posted. Glad you got it worked
out!
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 8:16:54 PM UTC-5 Danny wrote:
> I'm curious to hear what ends up resolving the issue. I hope it's as easy
> as a new cassette, but I'm most intrigued by it being related to the
>
Hi CJ: Thanks for this thoughtful response. The teeth on the cassette and
chainring appear to be in good shape, they aren't very old. The chain I'm
using is brand new. Also tried an older chain to be sure, both skipped.
Dropouts were aligned at my LBS with their alignment tools.
Looks like
I'm curious to hear what ends up resolving the issue. I hope it's as easy
as a new cassette, but I'm most intrigued by it being related to the
elongated hole.
Re: alignment tools, after borrowing my friend's Park DAG a handful of
times over a few months, I decided to buy my own tool. Ended up
*Today: Progress! *
Thanks again for your replies. Today Wesley and Stephen's replies
suggesting that it might *not *be the hanger had me scratching my head in
new and exciting ways. Thank you for your suggestions that I keep
searching.
I remembered that back when all this began my friend
George: Thanks for reading along! Yes, the Helicoil seems like a more
robust solution, I agree.
Jason: Noted! If only Riv would bring back those beefy headset presses they
got a super limited run of a few years ago. Never need one but... they
seemed awesome.
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at
Eric, you've *got* to get a DAG alignment tool! The heavy steel one, avoid
the new lighter one. It's a must have for the home mechanic of fine steel
frames that do not have replaceable hangers. I use it every time the
derailleur is pulled off for any reason, or if I'm having any stubborn
This is one of the more interesting posts/threads having to do with bike
repairs that has come along in awhile (with no intention to downplay the
unfortunate accident!). I like the final post about a Helicoil or dropout
saver recommendation. My own preference would likely be the Helicoil
Further ideas: Antonio at Riv suggested getting a Helicoil tool in the
M10x1.0 size to repair the bolt hole. Brian Chapman recommended installing
a Wheels Mfg. dropout saver. Either would attempt to repair the bolt hole.
I'm open to trying either of those fixes as well.
On Thursday, August
Thanks for the replies, everyone.
A few asked about the chain jumping/skipping/slipping. When the chain is
under load it slips or clunks repeatedly. It's kind of like when you're in
the wrong gear and you need to trim the gear to get it right. But no amount
of trimming is fixing the issue.
Oops, I just noticed Stephen had already made the point about the
derailleur possibly wiggling in the hole. Yes— what Stephen said.
Jim
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:52:54 AM UTC-4 Jim Whorton wrote:
> Even though it’s threading in smoothly, I wonder if that elongated hole is
> the
Even though it’s threading in smoothly, I wonder if that elongated hole is
the problem. Wonder if that bolt is moving under tension.
I’m not a bike mechanic by any means but I did spring for the Park
Derailleur Hanger Alignment Gauge awhile back and I’m glad. I have used it
on old frames
https://www.jensonusa.com/Wolf-Tooth-Hanger-Alignment-Tool
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 10:41:54 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
> Hey Eric,
>
> Been loosely following along. Glad you were ok in the accident but sheesh,
> what a bummer it did so much damage. Id vote along with others for getting
> a
Hey Eric,
Been loosely following along. Glad you were ok in the accident but sheesh,
what a bummer it did so much damage. Id vote along with others for getting
a hanger alignment tool, or figuring out how to make one for yourself. i
bought a wolf tooth variety ( i prefer the way it references
Can you elaborate on "the chain skips"? A misaligned derailleur hanger will
cause shifting to be sub-optimal, but unless the hanger is so bent that the
derailleur is way, way out of whack, it can't make the chain skip. Skipping
chains are caused by worn or damaged chains and/or cogs. Have you
Last fall I wrecked a derailer and bent the hanger when I shifted a
short-cage rear der into the big-big combination. I bought a new derailer
and aligned the dropout using this
clever hack (which I could swear I learned of from this
list): https://youtu.be/TnwreRrorIA
Anyway, it sounds to me
I vote for buy a gauge and do it yourself. I bought a Park DAG years ago
after a wreck and have used it many, many times since. No regrets.
Haven't I watched your build videos? You need this tool regardless. That
said, if a shop used one and aligned the hanger, I have a lot of trouble
A project is always a good excuse for buying a new tool, as a friend of my
use to say. May as well splurge on the alignment tool and see how it works
out. Personally I'm suspicions of the elongated bolt hole, not sure why,
but it doesn't look good. Any frame builders in a hour or two drive from
Your local shops sound like non-starters, if the one isn't confident and
the other is bad juju. Freighting the bike coast-to-coast and back to Riv
+ their labor sounds like it's not a deal-breaker. Sounds like the west
coast is the mecca for framebuilders. I have no idea about the east
And sheep in your poster , if I recall correctly. Very bucolic
I feel you about the freight. Are there no reputable builders closer to
you who could do the repair? In a neighbouring state perhaps?
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:03:10 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks, Ryan. Yes,
Okay, some mild updates.
I've bent and tweaked the hanger with crescent wrenches at least two dozen
times now. Worked on it during the miserable heat wave here and during
nicer weather yesterday. During the process I remove the chain and the
derailer, tweak the hanger, re-install the chain
Thanks, Ryan. Yes, I think the cost for the repair would be reasonable. I
worry the cost to freight the frame would be a little painful and the time
without the bike could be considerable depending on how it shakes out.
The poster is the MTB countryside illustration, same illustrator who did
Yikes! That is too bad but I'm glad you weren't hurt. I know you are very
ingenious, but maybe the frame needs to be sent to Riv for repair? Who will
no doubt do the repair at a reasonable cost
Which poster? I have the "saddle up on a bridgestone"...my favorite of the
Grant-inspired ones...the
That does not look good. Maybe once you get it into a stand and carefully
remove the derailleur and gently realign the hanger you will be fine. The
rear der pully cage can probably be bent back into shape. Issue is probably
trusting it. Hope things work out. Glad you were not hurt.
Thanks,
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