Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-07 Thread Brian Turner
I see three 64oz bottles and what appears to be a 36 or 40oz bottle. So, if they were full of liquid, and accounting for the weight of the bottles themselves, you're looking at approx. 20 lbs. just in that area of the bike alone. I'm no engineer, but that seems like a lot of excess weight to me

Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-06 Thread Eric Daume
Probably too late now, but it seems like this is something that could be a legit warranty claim. I can't see a use mode breaking the down tube around the middle like that, and it's suspicious it happened right around the water bottle boss. It's great Tim is going with the flow. I'd be frustrated

Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-05 Thread Paul Clifton
Hey Tim, Thanks for the details! That definitely looks like a trip that was not to be missed. IMO the full story makes the frame failure even more interesting. It sounds like it did did it's job admirably for a lot of miles. Cheers. Paul in AR On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 9:23:46 PM UTC-5 Tim

Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-05 Thread Tim Baldwin
That's my frame that was repaired. I had noticed a little extra flex riding into camp the night before and inspected the bike in the morning. It cracked around the water bottle boss. The tube did not crack in half or anything. I was able to ride the bike to the auto repair shop 5 or so miles

Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-05 Thread Johnny Alien
It should be pointed out that no one knows whether the break had anything at all to do with loaded weight. It could have been run over by a car for all we know. (Unless someone read through that thread and determined what happened) On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 8:58:40 PM UTC-4 Paul Clifton

Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-05 Thread Paul Clifton
The 160 limit seems extremely low, and has definitely been pushed successfully, which I reckon is why they raised it to 225-ish. I suspect having room for beefy tires encourages people to really put a bike through its paces, which may have influenced Grant's conservative load limits. It's like

Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-05 Thread Gill
Yeah, I second what Joe said. The only thing I’ve managed to break on my Clem is a nipple and it took a concerted effort of dumbness to do that. That bike is bulletproof. On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:59:49 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: > I've owned a Susie and several Clem Ls, the Clem is

Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-05 Thread Joe Bernard
I've owned a Susie and several Clem Ls, the Clem is notably stouter. Ain't nobody breaking that frame. On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 4:26:27 PM UTC-7 Wesley wrote: > My understanding is that Clem has been built heavily to take a lot of > abuse. Have fun, and let us know how it rides with a

Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-05 Thread Wesley
My understanding is that Clem has been built heavily to take a lot of abuse. Have fun, and let us know how it rides with a touring load! -W On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 3:56:31 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > I have been thinking about this a lot lately in preparation for the trip I > am

Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-05 Thread Wesley
All else being equal (especially tubing size - which, maybe it's not the same across sizes?), the larger size will be less strong than the smaller sizes, while generally having a heavier rider. I am very curious what the rider did to break his bike and I am also very happy to read that he has

Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-05 Thread Wesley
Well, they do offer the same bike in a version that will support a heavier rider. But I agree that people who fit the largest sizes are going to be flirting with Susie's weight limit even before adding gear. For instance I've got a 93cm PBH and weigh 190+, so I wouldn't be able to put much on a

Re: [RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-05 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
I find the weight limits very interesting. Rivendell has always marketed their bikes as the “anti-racer” or “not light” alternative to wispy aluminum and carbon bikes. Selling a bike with a weight limit most of us would exceed seems strange. A max of 160 pounds implies to me a bike unlike what

[RBW] Susie's Limits

2022-07-05 Thread Paul Clifton
This trip gallery was posted to the bikepacking forum on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/bikepacking/comments/vpan76/plenty_of_good_times_a_broken_frame_rowdy/ I don't know the riders or anything, but the gallery shows what I think are 3 Susie/Gus bikes and one other bike I don't recognize.