Re: [rtl] From Serveen Software Systems(P)LTD

2002-04-03 Thread Erwin Rol
more up to date you could look it up there, for now you migth try to find some info in the RTAI (www.rtai.org ) mailing list archives cause RTAI had the same problems. - Erwin -- Q - S O F T - E N G I N E E R I N G Erwin Rol (Software Engineer) phone: +49-89-68050051 [EMAIL

Re: [rtl] Newer Linux versions

2002-03-31 Thread Erwin Rol
On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 06:41, Michael Barabanov wrote: Erwin Rol ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 20:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 2.4 kernel is still shaky. Our commercial version went to 2.4 _way_ too early and with a huge effort we have stable 2.4.16

Re: [rtl] Newer Linux versions

2002-03-30 Thread Erwin Rol
On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 20:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the topic has come up a couple of times. Here's our current policy: New patches for GPL RTLinux can go into the contributions directory with little screening. Well thats the point of a community project: release early,

Re: [rtl] kernel compiling error - help!

2001-06-03 Thread Erwin Rol
RH 7.x has a bad compiler, use a other compiler. I think they have called it kgcc. If you already used the correct compiler i don't know what the problem is. - Erwin Ivan Ilyushin wrote: I tried to compile kernel from rtlinux_kernel_2.4.tar.gz v3.0 making comand make bzImage i got

[rtl] Re: [realtime] Wrong calibration ?

2001-05-15 Thread Erwin Rol
I had the same problem when i tried to convert the latency test example to C++. I thought to be smart and use nano seconds everywhere this resulted in increasing latency. As far as i can tell is it due to rounding errors when converting from ticks to nanoseconds and back. I advice you to try

[rtl] VGA and realtiem problems

2001-04-18 Thread Erwin Rol
Here is a interesting link telling about the problem several ppl (including myself are having) with VGA cards. http://www.zefiro.com/vgakills.txt It is already a few years old , but it still seems to be true. - Erwin -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [rtl] RTAI scheduling

2001-04-13 Thread Erwin Rol
Alex Plouznikoff wrote: Hi, I was wandering if anyone had a brief description of the rt_task_struct variables in rtai_sched.h. There is absolutly no comments in this file. Thats not true, there are atleast 5 lines of comments ;-) I think the idea is that you use the (well documented) API

[rtl] Virus emails

2001-04-03 Thread Erwin Rol
Isn't it slowly getting time that the RTL mailing list admins take responsibility and disable attachments ? - Erwin -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl Your_email" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For more information on Real-Time

Re: [rtl] does mbuff.h work well in your c++ programs in RTLinux

2001-04-02 Thread Erwin Rol
Mr. Erwin some how has a nice sound to it , but the Erwin part would be more than enough :-) It doesn't like certain assembler constructs. When you could do is make a header file with only the prototypes of the functions you need. For example the extern "C" void __set_64bit(long long unsigned

Re: [rtl] why create the zombie progress?

2001-03-29 Thread Erwin Rol
AFAIK ignoring SIGCHILD with signal(SIGCHILD,SIG_IGN); is enough to prevent zombies. - Erwin Leechow wang wrote: Hi,all, I wrote a simple listening socket program.The father forks the two child progresses.One is reporting the status of the system;the other is dealing with the network

Re: [rtl] again mbuff.h in c++ in RTLinux

2001-03-26 Thread Erwin Rol
Hmmm it doesn't like some of the :: in the assembler statements. The probably only working solution is to _not_ include any kernel headers. The function prototypes you need you will have to put in a separate header files. The same for defines and constants. this is the way Pierre did it in LXRT

Re: [rtl] mbuff.h in C++ in RTLinux

2001-03-25 Thread Erwin Rol
The list.h file in the linux kernel uses the C++ keyword "new" as a name for a parameter and so the C++ pukes over it. A solution is a #define new _new infront of the include and #undef new after it like. #include rtl_cpp.h extern "C" { #define new _new #include mbuff.h

Re: [rtl] hardware problems with RTAI ?

2001-03-21 Thread Erwin Rol
Andrew Morton wrote: Wilken Boie wrote: David Olofson schrieb: On Tuesday 20 March 2001 10:37, Erwin Rol wrote: The low latency ppl also warm against using the linux framebuffer drivers, although they don't have hardrealtime so this warning might not be of importance

Re: [rtl] in C++ object, rtf_put is unresolved

2001-03-15 Thread Erwin Rol
Sounds like you forgot extern "C". The linker looks C++ version of the symbol which has the parameter type info in the symbol name (the __FUiPvi part) and the module only has the C version without the type info. Just put a extern "C" { } around your include files when including from a C++ source

Re: [rtl] C++ problem

2001-03-15 Thread Erwin Rol
Add yer own new and delete operators , see any C++ text on how to do that. And disable exception handling of the compiler with -fno-exceptions. - Erwin Hermann Streich wrote: Hi, I am trying to insmod a simple C++ modul. Besides __builtin_new and __builtin_delete in there are 2

Re: [rtl] setjump and longjump

2001-03-15 Thread Erwin Rol
I would be interested to know this too, i tried a hacked up glibc version ones but didn't continue with it because the lack of time. - Erwin Arnold Radtke wrote: Hello, does anyone know, if I can use setjump and longjump in the RTL context or if there is another possibiltity to do this?

Re: [rtl] Pentium Pro-IV pros/cons.....

2001-03-11 Thread Erwin Rol
"C. W. Wright (1698)" wrote: Has anyone examined the new 1.5gHz Pentium Pro-IV systems for linux/rtl performance? Are there any issues that would suggest increase or decrease in real-time (or non-realtime) performance? My current rtl project is working fine on a 600mHz Athlon, but extra

Re: [rtl] Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!

2001-03-11 Thread Erwin Rol
One question to the list maintainers, are these "virus-mails" and from ppl that are subscribed to the list or from outsiders ? When from outsiders , why not block mails from ppl that aren't subscribed ? Or like mentioned earlier just bounce mails with attachments and when at it also HTML mail.

Re: [rtl] Pentium Pro-IV pros/cons.....

2001-03-11 Thread Erwin Rol
"C. W. Wright (1698)" wrote: Has anyone examined the new 1.5gHz Pentium Pro-IV systems for linux/rtl performance? Are there any issues that would suggest increase or decrease in real-time (or non-realtime) performance? My current rtl project is working fine on a 600mHz Athlon,

Re: [rtl] Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!

2001-03-11 Thread Erwin Rol
, Erwin Rol wrote: ... Or like mentioned earlier just bounce mails with attachments and when at it also HTML mail. Here is one way of doing it: http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html - Erwin Dmitri. -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl&qu

Re: [rtl] Switching RTL OS versions

2001-03-09 Thread Erwin Rol
Just mount the drive and use that path for the #2 stuff. for exmple in #1 make a /mnt/new_rtl and mount the new drive there. than make a lilo.conf file that uses /mnt/new_rtl/boot/vmlinux as a kernel path and set the root partition correctly. This should make it posible to boot both versions.

WARNING VIRUS !! Re: [rtl] Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!

2001-03-06 Thread Erwin Rol
This screensaver is flagged by NORTON anti Virus as a W95.Hybris worm. - Erwin Hahaha wrote: Today, Snowhite was turning 18. The 7 Dwarfs always where very educated and polite with Snowhite. When they go out work at mornign, they promissed a *huge* surprise. Snowhite was anxious.

Re: [rtl] FW: InterScan NT Virus Alert

2001-03-06 Thread Erwin Rol
How about selectively blocking attachments, and only allow things like .c .h .gz .bz2 to pass, that way one atleast has to unzip the virus and start it or rename the file and start it, this will probably be enough protection against little one click accidents. I doubt RT-Linux programmers want to

Re: Status of RTAI for 2.4.x

2001-02-14 Thread Erwin Rol
I just got a mail from Pierre and one from Paolo a while back. They are working hard on it , and it is starting to reach usable state. For a real release date Paolo probably is the man to ask (as you did :-). - Erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know what the current status of RTAI

Re: [rtl] Fast scheduling with LINUX

2001-01-14 Thread Erwin Rol
You could take a look at LXRT, which is part of RTAI, that makes it possible to promote a userspace thread (or process) to a Realtime task. Due to the internal setup you will loose a few usec in latency, but i haven't seen more than 30usec latency (appart with my S3 card and XFree 4.0, but thats

[rtl] [Fwd: RTAI + latencygraph]

2001-01-13 Thread Erwin Rol
Erwin Rol wrote: Hello All, i hacked around a bit with the latency-graph lib that is used by the low-latency ppl, and am almost finished to addapt it to RTAI. Here already a sample output, where the red graph is the max latency, the white one the average latency and the blue one

Re: [rtl] RTLinux- SMP

2000-12-17 Thread Erwin Rol
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Re: [rtl] RTAI: lockcpu

2000-11-30 Thread Erwin Rol
Dag Huib, I had weird problems with my dual p166MMX on a gigabyte board, the scsi controler lost interupts and other weird stuff. When switching to 2.4.x (normal linux kernel) i saw in my log files endless warringings about APIC errors, those aren't logged in the 2.2.x kernel. I read

Re: [Xpert] Re: [rtl] Re: Virge DX and accel. introduced latency?(was Re: [Xpert] XFree86in realtime applications)

2000-11-26 Thread Erwin Rol
Jonathan Morton wrote: well i gave up on XFRee 4.0.1 cause after changing about every BIOS setting, recompiling X with several mentioned improvements, switching video cards, switching RTAI-RTL and aback again, selectively disabling XAA parts, i still had peaks of 1msec and more in mmy

Re: [rtl] Re: Virge DX and accel. introduced latency? (was Re: [Xpert] XFree86in realtime applications)

2000-11-25 Thread Erwin Rol
) || ioperm(0, 1024, 1)) ^^^ replace with 0 Recompile X. Michael has tried with nvidia and no problem. On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 01:35:59AM +0100, Erwin Rol wrote: OK here is what i have tried in the last few days. The following part

Re: [Xpert] Re: [rtl] Re: Virge DX and accel. introduced latency? (was Re: [Xpert]XFree86in realtime applications)

2000-11-25 Thread Erwin Rol
Free 4.0.1 is only the messanger :-) So someone out there that has a Athlon and a VIA KT133 chipset and XFree 4 that wants to try RT-Linux/RTAI ? - Erwin Erwin Rol wrote: Hello all, well i gave up on XFRee 4.0.1 cause after changing about every BIOS setting, recompiling X with several

[rtl] [Fwd: Re: RTAI+NVidia driver = not realtime???]

2000-11-24 Thread Erwin Rol
PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Erwin Rol wrote: Seems like my S3Virge is not the only card with problems. question to Richard: What X-Server ? XFree-3.x or XFRee-4.X or some commercial one XFree version 4.0.1 .. I have seen jitter up to 50msec (without X maxium or 30usec) when The NVidia

[rtl] XFree86 in realtime applications

2000-11-24 Thread Erwin Rol
Hello All, I am working on/with RTAI/RT-Linux for a while now in combination with XFree 4.0.1 and have some problems that are maybe X related. For the ones that don't know RTAI/RT-Linux it is an layer between the hardware and the Linux kernel. The linux kernel never disables interrupts with

[rtl] Re: Virge DX and accel. introduced latency? (was Re: [Xpert] XFree86inrealtime applications)

2000-11-24 Thread Erwin Rol
Michel Dänzer wrote: Erwin Rol wrote: I am running a G400MAX now and have simmulair problems, but not as bad. Normal latency is around 10usecs, but when a lot of output is writen to a X-terminal it jumps to 500usec. When enabling PCIretries (so writing to the FIFO without checking

[rtl] RTAI+NVidia driver = not realtime???

2000-11-22 Thread Erwin Rol
Seems like my S3Virge is not the only card with problems. question to Richard: What X-Server ? XFree-3.x or XFRee-4.X or some commercial one I have seen jitter up to 50msec (without X maxium or 30usec) when running XFree-4.0.1 on with my S3Virge clone card. Disableing acceleration got the

[rtl] Re: RTAI+NVidia driver = not realtime???

2000-11-22 Thread Erwin Rol
Seems like my S3Virge is not the only card with problems. question to Richard: What X-Server ? XFree-3.x or XFRee-4.X or some commercial one I have seen jitter up to 50msec (without X maxium or 30usec) when running XFree-4.0.1 on with my S3Virge clone card. Disableing acceleration got the

[rtl] XFree 4.0.x S3Virge PCI card

2000-11-21 Thread Erwin Rol
OK here we go again :-) All the PCI options have some influence on the latency , but it still jumps to 15 mili seconds with one enter press in a console window. (also tried a failsafe sesion with only one Xterminal, same result) After some more source code reading i found that acceleration

Re: [rtl] RTAI latency (Athlon 800 - XFree 4.0.1)

2000-11-20 Thread Erwin Rol
Hello again, well disabling acceleration in XFree 4.0.1 caused a maxium latency of about 10usec when moving windows and typing enter key , which caused about 15 - 50 msec (mili, not micro) delays with acceleration enabled . The result is ofcourse that X crawls , moving windows is dead slow,

Re: [rtl] LXRT

2000-10-30 Thread Erwin Rol
Paolo Mantegazza wrote: Pierre Cloutier wrote: Erwin Rol wrote: Hello All, I am (still) trying out LXRT and it looks good, but there are some things i don't really understand. First when creating linux threads with pthread_create in user space is it than

[rtl] LXRT

2000-10-29 Thread Erwin Rol
Hello All, I am (still) trying out LXRT and it looks good, but there are some things i don't really understand. First when creating linux threads with pthread_create in user space is it than always needed to also create a RT_TASK , even if it only should do softrealtime ? Is there a way to

Re: [rtl] LXRT

2000-10-29 Thread Erwin Rol
Pierre Cloutier wrote: Erwin Rol wrote: Hey Pierre, A small explanation what i am trying. Basicly it is just changing the threads example in the lxrt directory to C++, and that worked OK. But i found some dificulties. The c++ object i have in pthreads in threadlocal data so i can

[rtl] LXRT and LXRT-Informed

2000-10-28 Thread Erwin Rol
Hello All, I have been looking at LXRT in RTAI 1.5 and saw there are basicly two directories with LXRT, one lxrt and one lxrt-informed. I can't really figure out which one to use, cause it seems the lxrt examples don't compile with the header files in rtai-1.5/include/ directory. And also i am

[rtl] RTAI web/ftp site

2000-10-27 Thread Erwin Rol
Are there any mirrors of the RTAI web site? cause i am having problems reaching it for the last days. TIA, Erwin -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl Your_email" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- For more information on Real-Time Linux

Re: [rtl] Off Topic - Network Broadcast

2000-07-17 Thread Erwin Rol
Yes use the broadcast address. Depending on what protocol you use this will be something like 255.255.255.255 for IP or ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff for ethernet or something like 0.0.0.0.ff.ff.ff.ff.ff.ff for IPX. a good reference is UNIX network programmming by W. R. Stevens ISBN 0-13-490012-X - Erwin

Re: [rtl] About GTK+

2000-05-29 Thread Erwin Rol
unsubscribe rtl Your_email" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- For more information on Real-Time Linux see: http://www.rtlinux.org/rtlinux/ -- Q - S O F T - E N G I N E E R I N G Rodachtalweg 11, 81549 Muenchen, Germany Erwin Rol (Software Engineer) phone: +49-89-68050051 [EMAIL PROTE

[rtl] DrDobbs

2000-03-18 Thread Erwin Rol
There is a article in the DrDobb's of march 2000 #310 about RT-Linux not very in depth but maybe still interesting. And nice to see a "windows" magazine to talk about something else. Of course they have to mention NT doing Real time in the same way. And in such a way that is looks like linux

Re: [rtl] RTAI IS FREE

2000-03-07 Thread Erwin Rol
seems they noticed :-) http://www.timesys.com/ITDir_Correction.htm Contrary to what is stated in the article posted on the IT-Director.com website, TimeSys wishes to stress that RTAI is NOT proprietary. We'd like to thank Paolo Mantegazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] and his fellow