[sage-devel] Re: How does one update prereq-0.3 ??

2009-09-20 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
gsw wrote: Hi David, looking at the $SAGE_ROOT/makefile and $SAGE_ROOT/spkg/install scripts, and a newly unzipped Sage source distribution, one sees that prereq does not lie in the directory $SAGE_ROOT/spkg/standard/ but in $SAGE_ROOT/spkg/base/. The latter directory does not exist in Sage

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread Bjarke Hammersholt Roune
Your disguising a dubious claim in the form of a question: Since Sage developers just do the first thing that pops into their head, how can we find a way to fix this problem?   However, implicit in the question is the assertion that people who implement code for Sage often do the first

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Bjarke Hammersholt Roune bjarke.ro...@gmail.com wrote: Your disguising a dubious claim in the form of a question: Since Sage developers just do the first thing that pops into their head, how can we find a way to fix this problem?   However, implicit in the

[sage-devel] the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
Hi, If anybody is planning on working on the Sage notebook during the next week, please keep in close communication with me and or this list. I'm working on separating out the notebook out as a completely separate Python library. William -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread Bjarke Hammersholt Roune
In that case, could you explain what you did intend, since evidently I completely misunderstood you.Are you proposing creating wiki pages, or a survey paper, or a directory of experts or? Benefiting from experience is good. From using the search, the topic of how to do that more has not

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
Hey, I've done some preliminary work on migrating the notebook to Django on http://github.com/TimDumol/sage-notebook-django-branch. A lot of functionality has not yet been implemented. I've had a fair load of work to do these past days, so I haven't been able to do much. Feel free to base work on

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:04 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: Hey, I've done some preliminary work on migrating the notebook to Django on http://github.com/TimDumol/sage-notebook-django-branch. A lot of

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread Simon King
Hi Bjarke! On 20 Sep., 14:51, Bjarke Hammersholt Roune bjarke.ro...@gmail.com wrote: In that case, could you explain what you did intend, since evidently I completely misunderstood you.    Are you proposing creating wiki pages, or a survey paper, or a directory of experts or? Benefiting

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:04 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: Hey, I've done some preliminary work on migrating the notebook to

[sage-devel] Re: Behavior of solve

2009-09-20 Thread x x
Sage is a great project in my opinion, and i hope to contribute, when i am more familiar with sage and python. I am not sure whether this belongs to sage-support or sage-devel, since i don't understand the architecture, in particular relating to the Symbolic expressions. That being said, i

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread Bjarke Hammersholt Roune
But as much as I know, it is highly encouraged (and AFAIK quite common) that people post at sage-devel or sage-combinat before they work on a big project or if a high-level strategic decision is to be made. It appears reasonable to me that this doing things in public is a good (perhaps best

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread Bjarke Hammersholt Roune
I wanted to spark a discussion about this because I have a perception that it has not been discussed in a non-inflammatory way, and talking about it in a non-inflammatory way might have people come up with ideas where otherwise they wouldn't think about it. This has been a valuable experience for

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread Thierry Dumont
William Stein a écrit : That's excellent. I personally favor Pylons as well, but I thought Django is the more popular, and thus more hackable framework at the moment. I would love to see his code. Hi, There a ldap authentification plugin for Django:

[sage-devel] Re: How does one update prereq-0.3 ??

2009-09-20 Thread gsw
Hmmm, intriguing. Unfortunately, I have currently no time whatsoever to spend on this issue, but let me know, what the outcome is, thanks! Cheers, Georg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from

[sage-devel] factoring zero

2009-09-20 Thread Tom Boothby
Maybe this is dumb -- but I'm perpetually bitten by it. Often times, I want to factor a list of numbers. Sometimes, a zero will pop up in the list, and I get an exception. Ok, so there isn't a unique prime factorization of zero. But, there isn't a unique prime factorization of a negative

[sage-devel] Re: Translating Online Docs To Spanish

2009-09-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Luis, On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:32 AM, luis villegas louferville...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been reading the following: - Your post Getting Started with Developing Sage 02/Jul/09 - Harald Schilly's statistics (no good news) - Martin Albrecht's talk at Sage Days 16 (it's Barcelona!!)

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:04 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: Hey, I've done some preliminary work on migrating the notebook to Django on http://github.com/TimDumol/sage-notebook-django-branch. A lot of

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread Francois Maltey
Hi, I'm not sure that discuss about the interface design of sage notebook inside firefox is at the right place. But let me give my advise during the first uses of sage 2 weeks ago or forget this mail. Even if I also use sage.el in emacs, the web-interface is really a very great-great-great

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:04 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: Hey, I've done some preliminary work on migrating the notebook to

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:03:23PM +0200, Francois Maltey wrote: François, too often maple-user at work Let me use that occasion to mention that François has lots of experience using computer algebra in undergraduate teaching, and is the main author of emacs's mupad-run, designed specifically

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:03:23PM +0200, Francois Maltey wrote: François, too often maple-user at work Let me use that occasion to mention that François has lots of experience using computer algebra in

[sage-devel] ucontext.h

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
Hi Juanjo, Could you consider changing src/gc/mach_dep.c in ECL so that it includes sys/ucontext.h instead of ucontext.h. This fixes a build issue on OS X 10.6, as described here:

[sage-devel] Re: factoring zero

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Tom Boothby tomas.boot...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe this is dumb -- but I'm perpetually bitten by it.  Often times, I want to factor a list of numbers.  Sometimes, a zero will pop up in the list, and I get an exception. Ok, so there isn't a unique prime

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:04 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: Hey, I've done some preliminary work on migrating the notebook to Django

[sage-devel] Re: Syntax highlighting + reST on trac and wiki

2009-09-20 Thread Pat LeSmithe
William Stein wrote: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Pat LeSmithe qed...@gmail.com wrote: Is there an easy way to test various macros and plug-ins short of a site-wide installation at Sage trac? Why don't you install trac and try out anything you want? It's not hard to install. There

[sage-devel] Re: The Art of Community available for free download

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Jono Bacon's book The Art of Community is now available for anyone to download. See http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-available-for-free-download/ Thanks for posting that. There is

[sage-devel] Re: Syntax highlighting + reST on trac and wiki

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Pat LeSmithe qed...@gmail.com wrote: William Stein wrote: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Pat LeSmithe qed...@gmail.com wrote: Is there an easy way to test various macros and plug-ins short of a site-wide installation at Sage trac? Why don't you install

[sage-devel] Re: Review Day next Tuesday (22 Sep)

2009-09-20 Thread Marshall Hampton
Cool. Tuesdays aren't very good for me, but I will do my best to do some reviews that day. I will try to at least address some of the polytope-related patches. -Marshall Hampton On Sep 15, 3:46 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: We have been extremely blessed lately with a

[sage-devel] Re: Review Day next Tuesday (22 Sep)

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Marshall Hampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: Cool.  Tuesdays aren't very good for me, but I will do my best to do It'll only be on Tuesday this time. There are now 4 people up at http://wiki.sagemath.org/review1 I wish there were more than 4, but that is a

[sage-devel] Sage mentioned in Terry Tao's talk

2009-09-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, Terry Tao recently delivered a talk at Melbourne University, Australia. I didn't attend the talk. Perhaps Alex Ghitza did? Anyway, Terry has uploaded his talk slides at http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/mathematical-research-and-the-internet/ Sage was mentioned in this talk,

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:04 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote:

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: SNIP That's excellent. I personally favor Pylons as well, but I thought Django is the more popular, and thus more hackable framework at the

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: SNIP That's excellent. I personally favor Pylons as well, but I

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol t...@timdumol.com wrote:

[sage-devel] Sage in the news

2009-09-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, Here's a news item at iTWire that mentions Sage: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/27887/1090/1/0/ In particular, read on page 2 of that news article. -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: the Sage notebook

2009-09-20 Thread Pat LeSmithe
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: I can implement login free possibility to edit published worksheets. That's also very very high on my list. I want it to provide nice views on

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread rjf
There has been some discussion on sage-flame, but since it is continuing here, I would like to mention that Bjarke's comments, which seem to me to be quite constructive, have shown a substantial weakness in the computer systems design aspects of Sage, since so few people involved have a

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:14 PM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote: There has been some discussion on sage-flame, but since it is continuing here, I would like to mention that Bjarke's comments, which seem to me to be quite constructive, have shown a substantial weakness in the computer systems

[sage-devel] Re: graph editor for Sage

2009-09-20 Thread Rado
A slightly updated version is up on Trac http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1321 Main update is that save graph works a bit better and also G.show() should produce same picture as what the graph_editor shows. To try it start with SAGE 4.1.1 apply trac_1321-graph_editor-

[sage-devel] Re: factoring zero

2009-09-20 Thread Craig Citro
My preference would be that factor works for all integers.  It's not like it's hard to factor 0 or anything.  We just return the factorization object [(0,1)]. I'm pretty indifferent on this, though mildly against -- so -0, I think. I think I would prfer the empty list of primes and a unit

[sage-devel] Re: graph editor for Sage

2009-09-20 Thread Rado
PS. I just saw that Mathematica has a similar graph editor, which you can run with Needs[GraphUtilities`] GraphEdit[G] However, it runs extremely slow on my machine. Funny thing is that their designers also decided to dump the data out of the graph editor into a cell. Rado On Sep 21, 12:33