On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Christopher Swenson
ch...@caswenson.com wrote:
I like the idea of having an official Docker image.
I think also creating a standard, say, VirtualBox image with the latest
Sage on a reasonable Linux OS (like the latest LTS ubuntu), and releasing
that as well
Perfect. :)
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 7:01 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Christopher Swenson
ch...@caswenson.com wrote:
I like the idea of having an official Docker image.
I think also creating a standard, say, VirtualBox image with the latest
I posted something on the SMC wiki (with a link to it in the FAQ). It is the
result of a few iterations of the process.
https://github.com/sagemathinc/smc/wiki/SageMath-Development-on-SageMathCloud
I just followed the steps there and everything worked great!
Thanks to everyone who
I posted something on the SMC wiki (with a link to it in the FAQ). It is the
result of a few iterations of the process.
https://github.com/sagemathinc/smc/wiki/SageMath-Development-on-SageMathCloud
I just followed the steps there and everything worked great!
Thanks to everyone who
I like the idea of having an official Docker image.
I think also creating a standard, say, VirtualBox image with the latest
Sage on a reasonable Linux OS (like the latest LTS ubuntu), and releasing
that as well could be cool.
--Christopher
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:35 PM, William Stein
On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 6:15:44 AM UTC-5, Darij Grinberg wrote:
Hi Anne,
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Anne Schilling an...@math.ucdavis.edu
javascript: wrote:
The SageMathCloud was great for those who had trouble installing Sage on
their own computer. Sometimes we had
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Franco Saliola sali...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 6:27:28 PM UTC-5, William Stein wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Franco Saliola sali...@gmail.com
wrote:
Here is a mini report on Sage Day 65. I'm not an organizer so this is
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Franco Saliola sali...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 6:27:28 PM UTC-5, William Stein wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Franco Saliola sali...@gmail.com
wrote:
Here is a mini report on Sage Day 65. I'm not an organizer so this is
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:23 AM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 5:03:02 AM UTC+2, Franco Saliola wrote:
Most of these problems were related to installing on Macs: various
different OS versions (10.10, 10.9, 10.8, ...); XCode versions
Apple does not
Another side effect in 6.7 PPA is any foo? or foo?? in the sage command
line says ImportError: no module named conf, but it seems help(foo) still
works. In the notebook foo? and foo?? still works. Not sure whether this is
PPA or 6.7 specific.
Another option is to have another PPA with a deb with
I am making functions to compute, for example, maximal sublattices or
Frattini sublattice of a lattice. It is somewhat faster to return only
list of elements instead of lattice. What you think, should the function
return
1) a sublattice, ready to use as a lattice for further computations;
user
What if they would be willing to systematically
review my revisions according to the usual conventions (e.g.,
http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/developer/reviewer_checklist.html#chapter-review)?
Does this seem like a reasonable way to proceed?
Yes, there is nothing wrong with that. Anybody can
On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 5:03:02 AM UTC+2, Franco Saliola wrote:
Most of these problems were related to installing on Macs: various
different OS versions (10.10, 10.9, 10.8, ...); XCode versions
Apple does not support OSX 10.10, so I don't see how we could (or should).
(3) A computer
Jori Mäntysalo writes:
At least for now we don't have parameter like
trust_me_i_know_what_i_am_doing=True for posets or lattices.
Such a parameter would make lots of sense, I think.
This can be
seen for example with C500=Posets.ChainPoset(500), and after that even
C500.join(100,200)
Your plan does look good to me Martin.
Just note it wont be trivial.
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Jori Mäntysalo writes:
At least for now we don't have parameter like
trust_me_i_know_what_i_am_doing=True for posets or lattices.
Such a parameter would make lots of sense, I think.
I have thinked about it. It needs some more thinking - how much should be
trusted? But at least for
Hi!
On 2015-06-08, Viviane Pons vivianep...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-06-08 9:51 GMT-05:00 Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com:
To me it is not a problem of doc but a problem of code. The issue is that
we have 99% of the poset functions in the poset/ folder, and a couple of
them in the
I would make the function which returns a list a private function and then
the public function calls the private one and converts it into a
poset/lattice as overall, I don't like arguments which change the output
type (and who really wants to deal with passing them along too?).
However,
Hi Darij,
Step 3: maybe explain how to tell when the copying is complete? I
think it took more than 3min for me (I used du -s to check on it).
Step 4:
IOError: [Errno 122] Disk quota exceeded
What should I do?
Perhaps you skipped Step 1??
1. Open the SMC project that you intend to use
Hi Darij,
Step 3: maybe explain how to tell when the copying is complete? I
think it took more than 3min for me (I used du -s to check on it).
Step 4:
IOError: [Errno 122] Disk quota exceeded
What should I do?
Perhaps you skipped Step 1??
1. Open the SMC project that you intend to use
In regards to Franco's suggestion, I like it, but I think it should not
send it to sage-devel.
Best,
Travis non-CI
On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 8:29:14 AM UTC-7, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
sage-devel or sage-support (or sage-install or sage-apple or sage-osx :)
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At least for now we don't have parameter like
trust_me_i_know_what_i_am_doing=True for posets or lattices.
Such a parameter would make lots of sense, I think.
I have thinked about it. It needs some more thinking - how much should be
trusted?
Hi Nathann,
On 2015-06-09, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com wrote:
I would have much less objections if we decided that the category of X
should be implemented in the main file that implements X (and not
centralize everything in the subfolders of category/).
This way, the poset category
Hi Franco,
thank you! I'm trying to follow the instructions now.
Step 3: maybe explain how to tell when the copying is complete? I
think it took more than 3min for me (I used du -s to check on it).
Step 4:
IOError: [Errno 122] Disk quota exceeded
What should I do?
Best regards,
Darij
On
Hi Franco,
thank you! I'm trying to follow the instructions now.
Step 3: maybe explain how to tell when the copying is complete? I
think it took more than 3min for me (I used du -s to check on it).
Step 4:
IOError: [Errno 122] Disk quota exceeded
What should I do?
Best regards,
Darij
On
When should one use optional versus default in docstrings? I've
noticed a lot of variation in the files in /src/sage/. Often, optional
is used if the argument in question defaults to None, but I also see
(default: None) or (default: ``None``). On the other hand, I also see
examples of
Hi Anne,
ah, this got updated while I wasn't looking :) Thanks for the reminder!
Best regards,
Darij
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Anne Schilling a...@math.ucdavis.edu wrote:
Hi Darij,
Step 3: maybe explain how to tell when the copying is complete? I
think it took more than 3min for
Hi Anne,
ah, this got updated while I wasn't looking :) Thanks for the reminder!
Best regards,
Darij
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Anne Schilling a...@math.ucdavis.edu wrote:
Hi Darij,
Step 3: maybe explain how to tell when the copying is complete? I
think it took more than 3min for
Hi Nathann,
On 2015-06-08, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com wrote:
I disagree with that. There's some advantage: if your code only depends on
general mathematical properties of posets and not on the specific
implementation of the poset object, then it should be in the category.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Darij Grinberg darijgrinb...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Anne,
ah, this got updated while I wasn't looking :) Thanks for the reminder!
It got updated because you were looking :-)
Best regards,
Darij
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Anne Schilling
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Darij Grinberg darijgrinb...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Anne,
ah, this got updated while I wasn't looking :) Thanks for the reminder!
It got updated because you were looking :-)
Best regards,
Darij
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Anne Schilling
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Hey David,
My general rule is that default is something that is a necessary part of
the method's input data and optional is, well, optional. For example,
suppose I have a q-deformation of a statistic on permutations, so why write
another method? Instead let's add a parameter q that defaults
Hi John,
On 2015-06-09, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote:
sage: list(X)
[((1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0,=
=20
0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0),
1)]
It looks like the tuple is a concatenation of 6 (one for each factor of X)=
=20
Hi,
thanks to both of you for your help on step 3, but I've got another
problem on step 4 now:
~/sage-dev-images/sage-6.8.beta3$ git trac config --user darij --pass [redacted]
Saved trac username.
Saved trac password.
Trac xmlrpc URL:
http://trac.sagemath.org/xmlrpc (anonymous)
Hi,
thanks to both of you for your help on step 3, but I've got another
problem on step 4 now:
~/sage-dev-images/sage-6.8.beta3$ git trac config --user darij --pass [redacted]
Saved trac username.
Saved trac password.
Trac xmlrpc URL:
http://trac.sagemath.org/xmlrpc (anonymous)
On 13/06/15 12:41, Nathann Cohen wrote:
This mail advertises a couple of changes that appeared in the latest beta:
- sage -t now involves all (installed) optional packages by default [1]
Cool!
This means that if you installed an optional package X, you don't have to add
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, Johan S. R. Nielsen wrote:
I think that the default of returning a sublattice makes most sense by
far.
Yes, if we have both then this should be the default.
In case the speed difference is very significant (why would this be the
case?),
At least for now we don't have
On 13/06/2015, at 22:00, 'Martin Albrecht' via sage-devel
sage-devel@googlegroups.com wrote:
Hi all,
On Friday 12 Jun 2015 13:45:05 R. Andrew Ohana wrote:
What about this:
Now: We work on making polybori an optional package in sage.
* At least going by this thread, the number of
On Saturday 13 Jun 2015 10:08:32 Francois Bissey wrote:
On 13/06/2015, at 22:00, 'Martin Albrecht' via sage-devel
sage-devel@googlegroups.com wrote:
Hi all,
On Friday 12 Jun 2015 13:45:05 R. Andrew Ohana wrote:
What about this:
Now: We work on making polybori an optional
I am pretty much with Martin here (although i guess he uses polybory far
more often than i do). I don't know much about autotools, but i can try to
give a small hand on that and the python3 part. I hope with the arrival of
July i will have some spare time for that.
I am also considering
On 13/06/15 01:26, William Stein wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Franco Saliola sali...@gmail.com wrote:
Here is a mini report on Sage Day 65. I'm not an organizer so this is not
official.
Thanks to Anne Schilling for helping to prepare this.
- 24 tickets on trac are tagged with
What is our politic about that? Should we force a patchbot green light with
respect to all optional packages?
A green patchbot is not exactly a requirement for a ticket to pass.
It's more a help than anything else. You see what it says, act on that
knowledge.
1) the set of installed optional
Thanks. A proper announcement could be found at
https://mail.gap-system.org/pipermail/gap/2015-June/000113.html.
Alexander
On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 3:04:55 PM UTC+1, Samuel Lelievre wrote:
GAP 4.7.8 is out. I opened
http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18689
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Hi all,
On Friday 12 Jun 2015 13:45:05 R. Andrew Ohana wrote:
What about this:
Now: We work on making polybori an optional package in sage.
* At least going by this thread, the number of people who use polybori in
Sage is small enough for it to make sense to have polybori as an optional
Hi all,
FYI, I put this out. Let's see if there *are* other users besides me:
https://martinralbrecht.wordpress.com/2015/06/13/polybori-is-dead-it-needs-your-help/
Cheers,
Martin
On Saturday 13 Jun 2015 11:00:16 Martin Albrecht wrote:
Hi all,
On Friday 12 Jun 2015 13:45:05 R. Andrew Ohana
On 13/06/2015, at 22:30, 'Martin Albrecht' via sage-devel
sage-devel@googlegroups.com wrote:
On Saturday 13 Jun 2015 10:08:32 Francois Bissey wrote:
On 13/06/2015, at 22:00, 'Martin Albrecht' via sage-devel
sage-devel@googlegroups.com wrote:
Hi all,
On Friday 12 Jun 2015 13:45:05 R.
Hellooo everybody,
This mail advertises a couple of changes that appeared in the latest beta:
- sage -t now involves all (installed) optional packages by default [1]
This means that if you installed an optional package X, you don't have to add
--optional=sage,X to sage -t in order to
Hi all,
On Saturday 13 Jun 2015 10:41:15 Francois Bissey wrote:
I think Andrew has already done quite a bit of the porting to autotools and
some python 3 fixes. But neither he or I want to be a maintainer - at least
for the long term.
ah, sorry that I missed that. Great! How about this:
1.
Hi Anne,
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Anne Schilling a...@math.ucdavis.edu wrote:
The SageMathCloud was great for those who had trouble installing Sage on
their own computer. Sometimes we had connection issues to the SMC (the wheel
was just spinning). Franco gave a nice talk on how to
I think that the default of returning a sublattice makes most sense by far.
In case the speed difference is very significant (why would this be the
case?), one could add an optional argument to the function to just
return a list. Could be named as_list = False, I guess.
Johan
Jori Mäntysalo
On 13/06/15 13:25, Nathann Cohen wrote:
What is our politic about that? Should we force a patchbot green light with
respect to all optional packages?
A green patchbot is not exactly a requirement for a ticket to pass.
It's more a help than anything else. You see what it says, act on that
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote:
The last public key is invalid, there is no space to set off the comment
from the b64'ed key.
Ah, thank you! I was overzealous in deleting whitespaces that came
from the copypasting.
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On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 7:51:08 PM UTC+2, Darij Grinberg wrote:
Hi,
thanks to both of you for your help on step 3, but I've got another
problem on step 4 now:
The last public key is invalid, there is no space to set off the comment
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On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 7:51:08 PM UTC+2, Darij Grinberg wrote:
Hi,
thanks to both of you for your help on step 3, but I've got another
problem on step 4 now:
+1 to including it as an optional spkg, especially since it seems is easy
to integrate.
Best,
Travis
On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
Is there interest in providing algorithms available in Kenzo (
https://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~sergerar/Kenzo/
Hi Viviane,
On 2015-06-11, Viviane Pons vivianep...@gmail.com wrote:
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Yes, but my problem is that I am inheriting in a file and that is not
working at the moment. I did in the command line to show the error, but
actually
All right, I now have a lot of optional packages on librae
arb
bliss
cbc
cryptominisat
d3js
database_cremona_ellcurve
database_gap
database_odlyzko_zeta
database_pari
database_stein_watkins
database_symbolic_data
gambit
lidia
modular_decomposition
mpir
nauty
normaliz
nose
plantri
python2
sage
On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 1:27:30 AM UTC+2, William wrote:
I'm also curious if anybody has any -- possibly *radical* -- suggestions
about how to address this
problem using new ideas.
Use Docker (or boot2docker on OSX and Windows) to build and run Sage.
Pro: Instant windows port.
On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 1:27:30 AM UTC+2, William wrote:
I'm also curious if anybody has any -- possibly *radical* -- suggestions
about how to address this
problem using new ideas.
Use Docker (or boot2docker on OSX and Windows) to build and run Sage.
Pro: Instant windows port.
Is there interest in providing algorithms available in Kenzo
(https://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~sergerar/Kenzo/)
in Sage?
In principle, Kenzo runs on ECL (with a 2-line patch, see
https://github.com/dimpase/kenzo), and so can be embedded, just as Maxima
is.
Dima
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On 2015-06-13 01:26, William Stein wrote:
suggestions about how to address this
problem using new ideas.
More testing? More and different buildbot machines testing more
operating systems? Perhaps using VM's?
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On 2015-06-13 22:21, Vincent Delecroix wrote:
By the way I add trouble by installing some of them which tries to write
in '/jones' or '/something' (that were two databases).
Yes, there are some old packages which don't install anymore.
In any case, like Nathann said, the automatic optional
On 2015-06-13 22:21, Vincent Delecroix wrote:
The problem is that now some tests fail (with make ptestlong)
sage -t --long src/sage/combinat/binary_tree.py # 2 doctests failed
sage -t --long src/sage/homology/examples.py # 6 doctests failed
sage -t --long src/sage/geometry/fan.py # 4
On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote:
On 2015-06-13 01:26, William Stein wrote:
suggestions about how to address this
problem using new ideas.
More testing? More and different buildbot machines testing more operating
systems? Perhaps using VM's?
Andrew
OS X in VM's? Is that legal? Maybe only on OS X hardware?
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On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
Is there interest in providing algorithms available in Kenzo (
https://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~sergerar/Kenzo/)
in Sage?
Absolutely!
John
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OS X in VM's? Is that legal? Maybe only on OS X hardware?
It is legal on OS X hardware. In my office I have a mac pro with 32GB RAM,
which could be used for build testing with VM's. It's not being used for
much of
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