Re: [sage-devel] Brainstorming about Sage dependencies from system packages

2017-05-26 Thread William Stein
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 6:01 AM, Erik Bray wrote: [...] > The extent and scope to which Sage "vendors" its dependencies, in the > form of what some call "sage-the-distribution", is *not* particularly > normal in the open source world. Vendoring *some* dependencies is not >

[sage-devel] Re: algebraic number package?

2017-05-26 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 3:20:00 PM UTC+2, Ralf Stephan wrote: > > Hello, > > The qqbar source does not use a lower-level library. My question: > is there a stand-alone open-source fast version of such a package? > Reason I'm asking is linkage with Pynac. > > Regards, > There are immediate

[sage-devel] Re: python3 : help needed

2017-05-26 Thread Nils Bruin
On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 7:52:57 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > If you build Sage's IPython package with SAGE_PYTHON3=yes, then it will > install a script local/bin/ipython3. (Note then that if the sage-location > script runs, its function make_scripts_relative will break >

[sage-devel] Re: python3 : help needed

2017-05-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:11:02 PM UTC-7, Nils Bruin wrote: > > On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 5:07:22 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 4:40:01 PM UTC-7, Nils Bruin wrote: >>> >>> incidentally, it would be nice if we could equiv local/bin/ipython with

[sage-devel] Re: Brainstorming about Sage dependencies from system packages

2017-05-26 Thread Kwankyu Lee
I wonder if the recent discussion of possible schemes about how to build Sage for python 2 and 3 (one may propose (or object to) that Sage should be built to be runnable both for python2 and python3) could be related with your proposal. Is it simply orthogonal with your proposal or somehow

Re: [sage-devel] algebraic number package?

2017-05-26 Thread John Cremona
On 26 May 2017 at 14:19, Ralf Stephan wrote: > Hello, > > The qqbar source does not use a lower-level library. My question: > is there a stand-alone open-source fast version of such a package? > Reason I'm asking is linkage with Pynac. As far as I know the only other software

[sage-devel] algebraic number package?

2017-05-26 Thread Ralf Stephan
Hello, The qqbar source does not use a lower-level library. My question: is there a stand-alone open-source fast version of such a package? Reason I'm asking is linkage with Pynac. Regards, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To

[sage-devel] Brainstorming about Sage dependencies from system packages

2017-05-26 Thread Erik Bray
Hi folks interested in Sage packaging, Almost every time the topic comes up, I complain that it isn't easier to use more system packages as both build- and run-time dependencies of Sage. I'd like to make some progress on actually doing something about that, and I have some ideas, but I'd like to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: No highlights in the release notes

2017-05-26 Thread John Cremona
I think it is a good idea to have highlights in the release notes, otherwise we may give the impression that all we do is fix bugs (sometimes). There must be many Sage users who do not bother to upgrade every time, possibly basing that decision on whether anything interestng strikes them in the

[sage-devel] Re: No highlights in the release notes

2017-05-26 Thread Kwankyu Lee
> > Perhaps it would be possible to have, in addition to the compulsory AUTHOR > and REVIEWER fields, in sage-trac a new optional field HIGHLIGHTS, that > the > author can fill with some text if (s)he believes the ticket is worth it > The text should be refined, unlike the others that we

Re: [sage-devel] Re: No highlights in the release notes

2017-05-26 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Fri, 26 May 2017, Simon King wrote: This was done in ~10 bigger ticket and another ~10 with small modifications. As an example see https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21861 Hence the ticket system would be wrong place for this. For something like this we should have a wiki page. How do you

[sage-devel] Re: No highlights in the release notes

2017-05-26 Thread Simon King
Hi Jori, On 2017-05-26, Jori =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E4ntysalo?= wrote: > This was done in ~10 bigger ticket and another ~10 with small > modifications. As an example see https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21861 > > Hence the ticket system would be wrong place for this. For

[sage-devel] Re: No highlights in the release notes

2017-05-26 Thread Simon King
Hi! On 2017-05-26, Kwankyu Lee wrote: > To continue the heritage, the authors should be supported and encouraged by > the system to make writing a short note for highlights not a burden but a > voluntary work motivated by desires to show off his or her work. Perhaps it

[sage-devel] Re: python3 : help needed

2017-05-26 Thread Frédéric Chapoton
pip upgrade is waiting at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21835 (but may not be ready) I am working on a ticket for changes concerning ETuple and map. Le vendredi 26 mai 2017 09:34:57 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik a écrit : > > > > On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 2:11:02 AM UTC+1, Nils Bruin wrote: >> >>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: No highlights in the release notes

2017-05-26 Thread Erik Bray
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Jori Mäntysalo wrote: > On Fri, 26 May 2017, Kwankyu Lee wrote: > >> As an example, I could put something like this for 8.0: >> >> - Finite lattices now have function to compute congruence, and >> several >>

Re: [sage-devel] python3 : help needed

2017-05-26 Thread Frédéric Chapoton
Maybe you could make some of your changes into tickets and branches, Nils ? I am thinking in particular about the changes relates to div, idiv, that could go into https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/22875 Unicode is certainly going to be subtle to handle. Some step is being made in

Re: [sage-devel] python3 : help needed

2017-05-26 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 26/05/2017, at 15:28, Nils Bruin wrote: > > On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:40:18 PM UTC-7, François wrote: > I am a bit surprised you can do that. I have just sent a PR to pynac > a couple of days ago to have it build with python3. > https://github.com/pynac/pynac/pull/248

[sage-devel] Re: python3 : help needed

2017-05-26 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 2:11:02 AM UTC+1, Nils Bruin wrote: > > On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 5:07:22 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 4:40:01 PM UTC-7, Nils Bruin wrote: >>> >>> incidentally, it would be nice if we could equiv local/bin/ipython with

Re: [sage-devel] Re: No highlights in the release notes

2017-05-26 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Fri, 26 May 2017, Kwankyu Lee wrote: As an example, I could put something like this for 8.0: - Finite lattices now have function to compute congruence, and several congruence-related functions like quotient lattice, lattice of congruences and checks if a lattice is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: No highlights in the release notes

2017-05-26 Thread Kwankyu Lee
On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 7:10:43 AM UTC+2, Jori Mäntysalo wrote: > > How many developer does something to highlight **in a particular > release**? > I don't know. But who knows before we ask developers? > As an example, I could put something like this for 8.0: > > - Finite lattices now