[sage-devel] Reminder: Sage developer zoom call 2 starting

2022-09-15 Thread Matthias Koeppe
Call 2: Thursday evening, 8:15pm Oakland (California) Friday afternoon, 3:15pm Auckland (New Zealand) Friday noon, 12:15 Tokyo https://ucdavis.zoom.us/j/93145702271?pwd=Ly92MkhrV3ZrQzF1TUhzOFdKWnlUUT09 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel"

Re: [sage-devel] Re: On changing Bernoulli(1) to +½

2022-09-15 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:36 PM Kwankyu Lee wrote: > On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 10:46:09 AM UTC+9 wst...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I just happened to stumble again on the original scrap of paper just >> now where I made up the name >> Sage back in 2004. >> > > A good photo of it deserves to be

Re: [sage-devel] Re: On changing Bernoulli(1) to +½

2022-09-15 Thread Kwankyu Lee
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 10:46:09 AM UTC+9 wst...@gmail.com wrote: > I just happened to stumble again on the original scrap of paper just > now where I made up the name > Sage back in 2004. > A good photo of it deserves to be permanently placed in the history section of the sagemath

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 2:09:23 AM UTC-7 Samuel Lelievre wrote: > c. Several people refuse to open a GitHub account I don't know anyone who does. I think they should speak up for themselves (unless they also refuse to participate in this list hosted on Google) so we can

[sage-devel] PARI/GP upgrade to 2.15

2022-09-15 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Dear all, The PARI/GP team is about to release a new version. I opened a ticket for that purpose at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34537. It went relatively smoothly with respect to building. However there are a lot of doctest failures in a lot of different files that I am not familiar about.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 2:09:23 AM UTC-7 Samuel Lelievre wrote: > I would like to voice serious objections to this move. > > To me, moving to a GitHub-centric development contradicts > the inclusiveness and openness of the SageMath project. > If you really think our project is doing

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 15:53 William Stein, wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 2:17 AM Samuel Lelièvre > wrote: > > Increasingly, services such as GitHub and Google require > > users to have a mobile phone number, to share it with them, > > and to be able to receive text messages on them in order >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 9:04:09 AM UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 6:21:09 AM UTC-7 Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > >> I don't understand why in the post >> https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/QooOF1GLMOs >> Matthias asked to remove developer names from

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 2:09:23 AM UTC-7 Samuel Lelievre wrote: > d. Moving to GitHub because a lot of software development > has moved there does not seem a relevant argument to me. No, Samuel, this comment trivializes what has been said regarding the benefits of a big network.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 11:40:12 PM UTC-7 seb@gmail.com wrote: > What is the proposed workflow to merge the develop branch after a new > release into PR (or other) branches of your fork (i.e re-basing)? Obviously > this is possible by pushing on sync in the web interface or

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 6:21:09 AM UTC-7 Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > I don't understand why in the post > https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/QooOF1GLMOs > Matthias asked to remove developer names from > (1) https://trac.sagemath.org/#AccountNamesMappedtoRealNames > Aren't we

Re: [sage-devel] sage zoom meeting reminder

2022-09-15 Thread William Stein
We took quick notes from the discussion during the short meeting here - https://cocalc.com/wstein/sagedev/2022-09-15 On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:19 AM William Stein wrote: > > I've also created an agenda file here: > > https://cocalc.com/wstein/sagedev/2022-09-15 > > and the meeting is at > >

Re: [sage-devel] sage zoom meeting reminder

2022-09-15 Thread William Stein
I've also created an agenda file here: https://cocalc.com/wstein/sagedev/2022-09-15 and the meeting is at https://meet.jit.si/d8a744b413e339d95fba907b81fb249609520161 On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:18 AM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > I'm having technical trouble. Could someone else please create a

Re: [sage-devel] sage zoom meeting reminder

2022-09-15 Thread William Stein
Matthias just wrote that he is having technical troubles with zoom. Here's where we will have the meeting instead: https://meet.jit.si/d8a744b413e339d95fba907b81fb249609520161 On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:16 AM Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 3:54 PM William Stein wrote: > > >

Re: [sage-devel] sage zoom meeting reminder

2022-09-15 Thread Matthias Koeppe
I'm having technical trouble. Could someone else please create a meeting and post the details here? Matthias On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 8:16:42 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 3:54 PM William Stein wrote: > > > > Reminder -- that 30 minute Sage zoom meeting

Re: [sage-devel] sage zoom meeting reminder

2022-09-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 3:54 PM William Stein wrote: > > Reminder -- that 30 minute Sage zoom meeting thing that Matthias > organized is happening in a few minutes from right now at > > https://ucdavis.zoom.us/j/92371662861?pwd=TDZKR0lKb2xzTGhiM0l3cnFmaGRadz09 > link doesnt work for me > (8:15

[sage-devel] Re: sage zoom meeting reminder

2022-09-15 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Sorry I cannot make it this time (I am in the train). But next Thursday should be OK. Best wishes, Eric. Le jeudi 15 septembre 2022 à 16:54:32 UTC+2, wst...@gmail.com a écrit : > Reminder -- that 30 minute Sage zoom meeting thing that Matthias > organized is happening in a few minutes from

[sage-devel] sage zoom meeting reminder

2022-09-15 Thread William Stein
Reminder -- that 30 minute Sage zoom meeting thing that Matthias organized is happening in a few minutes from right now at https://ucdavis.zoom.us/j/92371662861?pwd=TDZKR0lKb2xzTGhiM0l3cnFmaGRadz09 (8:15 pacific time to be exact.) -- William (http://wstein.org) -- You received this message

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 2:17 AM Samuel Lelièvre wrote: > Increasingly, services such as GitHub and Google require > users to have a mobile phone number, to share it with them, > and to be able to receive text messages on them in order > to be able to log in or access certain features. I don't

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 12:38 PM Marc Mezzarobba wrote: > > Samuel Lelièvre wrote: > > a. The company operating GitHub can block access to GitHub, > > block account creation, or terminate accounts for individuals, > > companies or countries without prior notice on discriminatory > > grounds, see

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 2:47 PM Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > > Le jeudi 15 septembre 2022 à 15:32:22 UTC+2, dim...@gmail.com a écrit : >> >> >> >> On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 14:21 Eric Gourgoulhon, wrote: >>> >>> I would like to ask about a point that does not seem to have been discussed >>> before

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Le jeudi 15 septembre 2022 à 15:32:22 UTC+2, dim...@gmail.com a écrit : > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 14:21 Eric Gourgoulhon, wrote: > >> I would like to ask about a point that does not seem to have been >> discussed before (apologies if it was): >> If the migration to Gihub takes place, would

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 14:21 Eric Gourgoulhon, wrote: > I would like to ask about a point that does not seem to have been > discussed before (apologies if it was): > If the migration to Gihub takes place, would there remain somewhere a > read-only copy of Trac? more precisely, of all the Trac

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
I would like to ask about a point that does not seem to have been discussed before (apologies if it was): If the migration to Gihub takes place, would there remain somewhere a read-only copy of Trac? more precisely, of all the Trac tickets? The numerous discussions there constitute a valuable

[sage-devel] Re: Lazy power series

2022-09-15 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
I actually have one feature request myself: I'd like to have a method that finds power series solutions to given equations and initial conditions. For example, in FriCAS I can do (3) -> fm f == f * (1-q*z) - f.(q*z)*(y*q*z+y)- f.(q*z)*q*z*f - y*q*z (4) -> res := seriesSolve(fm,

[sage-devel] Re: Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Marc Mezzarobba
Samuel Lelièvre wrote: > a. The company operating GitHub can block access to GitHub, > block account creation, or terminate accounts for individuals, > companies or countries without prior notice on discriminatory > grounds, see links below. > > b. Relying on free software tools for essential

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:17 AM Samuel Lelièvre wrote: > > One more thought. > > Increasingly, services such as GitHub and Google require > users to have a mobile phone number, to share it with them, > and to be able to receive text messages on them in order > to be able to log in or access

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:09 AM Samuel Lelièvre wrote: > > On Friday, 09 Sep 2022, 09:54 UTC, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > I am resurrecting this thread, as in addition of trac continuing to eat up > > funds > > (at a rate of over US$ 10 per day at the moment), it has gotten increasingly > >

[sage-devel] Re: On changing Bernoulli(1) to +½

2022-09-15 Thread Jeremy Tan
There is now an Arb equivalent of the Sage ticket that implements the generalised Bernoulli function but nothing else: https://github.com/fredrik-johansson/arb/pull/438 Any further equivalents (e.g. on mpmath) will be edited into the description of the Sage ticket rather than being mailed

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Samuel Lelièvre
One more thought. Increasingly, services such as GitHub and Google require users to have a mobile phone number, to share it with them, and to be able to receive text messages on them in order to be able to log in or access certain features. I do not think contributing to Sage should require

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Samuel Lelièvre
On Friday, 09 Sep 2022, 09:54 UTC, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > I am resurrecting this thread, as in addition of trac continuing to eat up > funds > (at a rate of over US$ 10 per day at the moment), it has gotten increasingly > broken. In particular, in the last 2 weeks no new developers can really

[sage-devel] Lazy power series

2022-09-15 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
Dear all, in the past few months, Travis and I have worked on a reimplementation of lazy formal power series. With https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/32367 its design and implementation is now well-developed, and powerful enough so that I'd like to briefly present it here. If you notice any

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 07:40 seb@gmail.com, wrote: > What is the proposed workflow to merge the develop branch after a new > release into PR (or other) branches of your fork (i.e re-basing)? Obviously > this is possible by pushing on sync in the web interface or typing gh > repo sync

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-15 Thread seb....@gmail.com
What is the proposed workflow to merge the develop branch after a new release into PR (or other) branches of your fork (i.e re-basing)? Obviously this is possible by pushing on sync in the web interface or typing gh repo sync USERNAME/sage -b branch in the command line. But how do you resolve