[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Johannes Meixner jsmeix at suse.de writes: I have another question: Assume because of whatever reason a scanner manufacturer cannot make a free backend (e.g. because of third-party license stuff, or just because the upper management at the manufacturer is full of fear that another

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com writes: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Johannes Meixner jsmeix at suse.de wrote: Hello, On Jun 4 21:02 m. allan noah wrote (shortened): SANE is GPL, with an added exception to allow proprietary front-end programs to link against it. What you are

[sane-devel] Branch for sane-frontends

2008-06-06 Thread stef
Le Thursday 05 June 2008 14:00:22 m. allan noah, vous avez ?crit?: On 6/4/08, stef stef.dev at free.fr wrote: Hello, to maintain the curent 1.0.x version of sane-backends I propose to tag current sources with: DEVEL_1_0_TRUNK i just made this tag. Then make

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread Johannes Meixner
Hello, On Jun 5 11:30 m. allan noah wrote (shortened): Sane is not here to provide sanei for proprietary backends to steal. Many thanks! Now it is clear for me! Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF:

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread Wang Mengqiang
Theodore Kilgore, Thank you for your ardent reply. I feel your earnest expectation to improve the communication with hardware manufacture. But, very sorry, I am afraid I have no ability to take this responsibility. Thank you sharing the possible reasons on the block of communication.

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread Johannes Meixner
Hello, On 5 Jun Wang Mengqiang wrote (shortened): we plan to use several special modules which do not contain any open source code from sane or other party, because they contain some tecnology that we do not want to open. So, that is, our backend is composed of two parts, one part is open

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:24:25 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen olaf.meeuwissen at avasys.jp wrote: If GPL'd code uses a non-compatible library via dlopen that's just as much a violation as linking to it directly. The code runs in the same process space. That makes the combined work a derivative, so,

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread m. allan noah
On 6/6/08, Alessandro Zummo azummo-lists at towertech.it wrote: On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:24:25 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen olaf.meeuwissen at avasys.jp wrote: If GPL'd code uses a non-compatible library via dlopen that's just as much a violation as linking to it directly. The code runs in the

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:54:13 -0400 m. allan noah kitno455 at gm gpl faq is pretty clear on this one: If the modules are included in the same executable file, they are definitely combined in one program. If modules are designed to run linked together in a shared address space, that almost

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread m. allan noah
On 6/6/08, Alessandro Zummo azummo-lists at towertech.it wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:54:13 -0400 m. allan noah kitno455 at gm gpl faq is pretty clear on this one: If the modules are included in the same executable file, they are definitely combined in one program. If modules are

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Wang Mengqiang wrote: Theodore Kilgore, Thank you for your ardent reply. I feel your earnest expectation to improve the communication with hardware manufacture. But, very sorry, I am afraid I have no ability to take this responsibility. Thank you sharing the

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:26:04 -0400 m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com wrote: no, the GPL is all about derivative works and combining code, it makes no difference the direction: You are probably right, the closest entry in the faq that describes this situation seems to be

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:36:39 +0200 Alessandro Zummo azummo-lists at towertech.it wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:26:04 -0400 m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com wrote: no, the GPL is all about derivative works and combining code, it makes no difference the direction: You are probably

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread m. allan noah
On 6/6/08, Alessandro Zummo azummo-lists at towertech.it wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:36:39 +0200 Alessandro Zummo azummo-lists at towertech.it wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:26:04 -0400 m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com wrote: no, the GPL is all about derivative works and

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:10:52 -0400 m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com wrote: yes- this seems reasonable, however, this 'program' cannot be derived from existing GPL'd software that does not already have this added permission, because that would change the original program's license without

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread m. allan noah
On 6/6/08, Alessandro Zummo azummo-lists at towertech.it wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:10:52 -0400 m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com wrote: yes- this seems reasonable, however, this 'program' cannot be derived from existing GPL'd software that does not already have this added

[sane-devel] Please give me some help to solve the license issues in using sane

2008-06-06 Thread Daniel Glöckner
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 11:10:52AM -0400, m. allan noah wrote: 3. you can write a partly free backend, that dynamically links to the closed parts, provided that you place a license exception in the free part allowing said linking. you cannot use any code from SANE, other than sane.h and the

[sane-devel] problems with genesys and MD6228

2008-06-06 Thread Werner Holtfreter
Am Mittwoch, 4. Juni 2008 21:09:56 schrieb stef: you can compile and test CVS without installing it system-wide. In a command shell, create a directory then 'cd' to it. First you have to get the sources with (see http://www.sane-project.org/cvs.html): cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at

[sane-devel] problems with genesys and MD6228

2008-06-06 Thread stef
Le Friday 06 June 2008 20:15:36 Werner Holtfreter, vous avez ?crit?: Am Mittwoch, 4. Juni 2008 21:09:56 schrieb stef: you can compile and test CVS without installing it system-wide. In a command shell, create a directory then 'cd' to it. First you have to get the sources with (see