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2008-03-02 Thread René Rebe
Hi all, On Saturday 01 March 2008 20:35:30 Oliver Rauch wrote: Am Samstag, den 01.03.2008, 13:39 +0100 schrieb Alessandro Zummo: no? mine is to tweak, yours is not to tweak.. I'd say they are quite different :) BTW: in every stupid comment there is a bit truth Now I see that

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2008-03-02 Thread Oliver Rauch
Am Sonntag, den 02.03.2008, 13:05 +0100 schri If it is not for a gradual and compatible improvement of SANE, but a significant rewrite it would make more sense to adapt an wide deployed industrial standard such as TWAIN, SANE and TWAIN work on different levels. SANE is an interface between a

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2008-03-02 Thread Oliver Rauch
Am Sonntag, den 02.03.2008, 13:05 +0100 schrieb Ren? Rebe: And I also want to point out once more that during a major rewite we'll probably loose drivers for old hardware as there will be few people re-writing a backend for the oldest devices most developers do not have anymore. This is not

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2008-03-02 Thread René Rebe
On Sunday 02 March 2008 13:32:17 Oliver Rauch wrote: Am Sonntag, den 02.03.2008, 13:05 +0100 schri If it is not for a gradual and compatible improvement of SANE, but a significant rewrite it would make more sense to adapt an wide deployed industrial standard such as TWAIN, SANE and

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2008-03-02 Thread Oliver Rauch
Am Sonntag, den 02.03.2008, 18:14 +0100 schrieb Ren? Rebe: Not really. TWAIN also has the DataSource, the backend driver, a DataSourceManager multiplexing between the sources and the applications, and the frontend applications. The architecture is mostly the same. And yes, the data sources

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2008-03-02 Thread René Rebe
Hi, On Sunday 02 March 2008 20:39:32 Oliver Rauch wrote: Am Sonntag, den 02.03.2008, 18:14 +0100 schrieb Ren? Rebe: Not really. TWAIN also has the DataSource, the backend driver, a DataSourceManager multiplexing between the sources and the applications, and the frontend applications.

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2008-03-01 Thread Gerhard Jaeger
On Freitag, 29. Februar 2008, Alessandro Zummo wrote: On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:59:06 +0100 Gerhard Jaeger gerhard at gjaeger.de wrote: Now if the other developers here can declare their intentions and the way they want to implement them, we can have a better picture of the thing

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2008-03-01 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:23:47 +0100 Gerhard Jaeger gerhard at gjaeger.de wrote: We now have new frame-types - that's okay - BUT all other drawbacks we currently have in 1.x should and must be addressed by sane 2.x No more tweaks - compatible or not! Well it seems that we have

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2008-03-01 Thread Oliver Rauch
Am Samstag, den 01.03.2008, 13:39 +0100 schrieb Alessandro Zummo: no? mine is to tweak, yours is not to tweak.. I'd say they are quite different :) BTW: in every stupid comment there is a bit truth Now I see that tweaking is your goal and so I understand why we don`t find a conclusion. My

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2008-03-01 Thread Étienne Bersac
Does a german and an itilian understand the same thing behind Tweaking ? ;) ?tienne.

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2008-03-01 Thread Oliver Rauch
Am Samstag, den 01.03.2008, 21:03 +0100 schrieb ?tienne Bersac: Does a german and an itilian understand the same thing behind Tweaking ? ;) Don`t know what you understand behind tweaking, I understand it as a bad, unconventional improvement in an improper way. Best regards Oliver

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2008-03-01 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi, That's the shame with english. When will SANE switch to Esperanto ;) Regards, ?tienne.

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2008-03-01 Thread Julien BLACHE
?tienne Bersac bersace03 at gmail.com wrote: That's the shame with english. When will SANE switch to Esperanto ;) Let's add that as a requirement for SANE2. JB. -- Julien BLACHE http://www.jblache.org jb at jblache.org GPG

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2008-02-29 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:59:06 +0100 Gerhard Jaeger gerhard at gjaeger.de wrote: Now if the other developers here can declare their intentions and the way they want to implement them, we can have a better picture of the thing that's going on and we can see if and how we can work

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2008-02-28 Thread Alessandro Zummo
while we are discussing how to implement new features, here are a couple of things that i'd like to see: - a way to obtain some more info about the scanner. I always missed a way to ask the scanner for vendor, model and serial number. the only option available right now is to cache them

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2008-02-28 Thread Oliver Rauch
Add some more things and we are close to sane2. Don`t you think you already lost control about what you started? Please take a step back and take a look at what you are doing. Oliver Am Donnerstag, den 28.02.2008, 23:39 +0100 schrieb Alessandro Zummo: while we are discussing how to

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2008-02-28 Thread m. allan noah
yes- i am now inclined to agree with you, oliver. allan On 2/28/08, Oliver Rauch oliver.rauch at rauch-domain.de wrote: Add some more things and we are close to sane2. Don`t you think you already lost control about what you started? Please take a step back and take a look at what you are

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2008-02-28 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:49:34 -0500 m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com wrote: yes- i am now inclined to agree with you, oliver. Don`t you think you already lost control about what you started? Please take a step back and take a look at what you are doing. well, maybe I should declare my