[sane-devel] [RFC] how to enable 1.1 features

2008-02-29 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:57:29 -0500
m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com wrote:

   Why an 1.1 COMPLIANT frontend should be allowed to compile against 1.0 
  SANE?
 
I've never seen in my whole life any other library that has such
a requirement. When the library version changes, you have to change
the headers.
 
 AND YOU ALSO ALWAYS CHANGE THE SONAME. is that clear enough?

 no need to shout. that's certainly true but then we already have the
 problem because the new frames aren't in the old header so a 1.1 frontend
 that wants to handle them shall use the 1.1 headers anyway. on the
 other side we do not want to change the soname. 

 


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[sane-devel] more actions fore sane 1.1

2008-02-29 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:59:06 +0100
Gerhard Jaeger gerhard at gjaeger.de wrote:

   Now if the other developers here can declare their intentions
   and the way they want to implement them, we can have a better
   picture of the thing that's going on and we can see if and
   how we can work together toward the same target.
 
 He - nice try!
 
 I think we agreed in adding some stuff, namely new FRAME_TYPES in 
 the short term - others are for 2.x.
 
 We now have new frame-types - that's okay - BUT all other
 drawbacks we currently have in 1.x should and must be addressed
 by sane 2.x
 
 No more tweaks - compatible or not!

 Well it seems that we have different goals then :)
 

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[sane-devel] [RFC] how to enable 1.1 features

2008-02-29 Thread Julien BLACHE
Alessandro Zummo azummo-lists at towertech.it wrote:

Hi,

  By declaring that you are sane 1.1 compliant you, the programmer,
  are telling your users that you have put your efforts into making your
  code robust, to check and handle error codes.

I got lost in what you're proposing to use a the mechanism to enable
SANE 1.1 features.

But remember it must all work over saned.

JB.

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[sane-devel] Install HAL fdi

2008-02-29 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

In CVS, sane-desc tool generate tools/hal/libsane.fdi, however, it is
not installed. Could you please install it ? Attached a patch installing
fdi file if --enable-hal-fdi is passed to configure.

Regards,
?tienne.
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[sane-devel] [RFC] how to enable 1.1 features

2008-02-29 Thread Alessandro Zummo
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:10:11 +0100
Julien BLACHE jb at jblache.org wrote:

 Alessandro Zummo azummo-lists at towertech.it wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
   By declaring that you are sane 1.1 compliant you, the programmer,
   are telling your users that you have put your efforts into making your
   code robust, to check and handle error codes.
 
 I got lost in what you're proposing to use a the mechanism to enable
 SANE 1.1 features.
 
 But remember it must all work over saned.

 Using sane_control_option with a new ACTION but there's no consesus
 in doing that... it would probably require too many modifications
 to work with saned.

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[sane-devel] Install HAL fdi

2008-02-29 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

In CVS, sane-desc tool generate tools/hal/libsane.fdi, however, it is
not installed. Could you please install it ? Attached a patch installing
fdi file if --enable-hal-fdi is passed to configure.

Regards,
?tienne.
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[sane-devel] Install HAL fdi

2008-02-29 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

In CVS, sane-desc tool generate tools/hal/libsane.fdi, however, it is
not installed. Could you please install it ? Attached a patch installing
fdi file if --enable-hal-fdi is passed to configure.

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2008-02-29 Thread
that of the ordinary user because you can not provide both
iscan-2.11.0 and iscan-2.10.0 next to one another.  You either don't
support the models added in 2.11.0 (and later?) or drop the models
that require an incompatible plugin.  Either choice is bad because you
will put your users out in the cold.

 Therefore we cannot provide iscan-2.11.0 for openSUSE 11.0
 because we cannot provide matching plugins for Epson's
 proprietary crap.

 Does Epson really like when their proprietary crap does no longer
 work out of the box (at least on 32-bit Linux distributions)?

 By the way regarding (*):
 If there was a directory where all available plugins are listed,
 I could check what is actually available.
 I asked for such a directory several times but it seems
 the Epson or Epson Avasys management is not interested
 to help distributors to get their stuff well packaged.

Thanks for putting it so bluntly.  I hope things will change for the
better.

BTW, as of 2008-04-01 our company changed its name, again.  It is now
AVASYS Corporation, without the EPSON.

Hope this helps,
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2008-02-29 Thread
thing there is some value that is never cleaned. if this is a bug,
there something i can do? i REALLY need this work.
Well thanks like always
Tobias

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:21 PM, m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com wrote:
 it should, but i take it from your question that it does not? :)


  allan

  On 4/24/08, tobias alarcon extobias at gmail.com wrote:
   So in the fujitsu backend should work?
  
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:43 PM, m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com 
 wrote:
  
this depends entirely on the backend. i have tried to make sure that
  the backends i maintain will re-find scanners at every call, but other
  backends may not.

  allan



  On 4/24/08, tobias alarcon extobias at gmail.com wrote:
   Hi all
  
Im just wanna know if this function retrives the list of devices at
every moment.
Let me explain, i launch my program with the scanner disconected, 
 then
i conect it and
call this function. Doc say This function can be called repeatedly 
 to
detect when
new devices become available but this is not my case, i get a null 
 pointer.
  
thanks in advance
Tobias.
  
  
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2008-02-29 Thread
That could be one reason. Could I ask you to conduct the same test and
supply the log, but using another frontend, perhaps Xsane? Also with
debugging (SANE_DEBUG_HP5590=50) enabled.

Anyway, the log looks normal for me, except for scanner failed to
start scanning operarion for 2nd page.

Next step would be to gather Usbsnoop log from Windows machine during
the same operation. Do you have Windows installed on some machine
where you could do that?

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