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2006-01-08 Thread Ben Tasker
I recently posted on this list about a Xerox 4800 flatbed scanner. After a
little investigation it would seem that Xerox have simply rebranded the
Visioneer 4800 scanner. If the Visioneer 4800 one touch is ever supported I
assume the Xerox will be as well.

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From photopi...@interia.pl  Sat Jan  7 23:48:00 2006
From: photopi...@interia.pl (Radek Rurarz)
Date: Sun Jan  8 00:53:06 2006
Subject: [sane-devel] Microtek Film Scan 35
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On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:48:32 +0300 (MSK)
Andrei V. Toutoukine t...@isuct.ru wrote:

 Dear SANE developers,
 
 I've got six years old Microtek Film Scan 35 which nobody cares of at
 my work. Unfortunately I seen the mark unsupported at SANE web site.

I have a Microtek 35t/35t+ (I'm not sure which one, the plate on the
device is confusing). It's well discovered by sane, unfortunately it
hangs the SCSI bus. On the other hand the vuescan does a good job with
it (too bad it's not free and not open source).

My regards.


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2006-01-08 Thread Ben Tasker
Sorry should have mentioned that in the previous post. The Xerox 4800 One
touch does indeed have the same Product and Vendor ID as the Visioneer 4800
One touch


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From henn...@meier-geinitz.de  Sun Jan  8 12:46:22 2006
From: henn...@meier-geinitz.de (Henning Meier-Geinitz)
Date: Sun Jan  8 12:47:24 2006
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Hi,

On 2006-01-08 12:05, Ben Tasker wrote:
 Sorry should have mentioned that in the previous post. The Xerox 4800 One
 touch does indeed have the same Product and Vendor ID as the Visioneer 4800
 One touch

Thanks, I'll add it to our lists.

As the Visioneer 4800 is already quite long in our lists and nobody
has written a backend yet I guess it's still up to you to write one :-)

The chipset seems to be Realtek RTS8801B. I don't know how similar
this is compared to which is supported by the hp3500 backend
http://projects.troy.rollo.name/rt-scanners/ but it may help
nevertheless.

Bye,
  Henning


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2006-01-06 Thread Ben Tasker
Hi There,
Having just bought a Xerox 4800 One touch flatbed scanner and found it
unsupported (dont ask why i ddint check first) I am going to try and create
a SANE backend for it. Any help will be greatly appreciated, I assume there
is no other backend being developed for this scanner?
Should mention I have no idea how long it will take me to create the backend
as I havent really done much with SANE before, an interested browse through
the source perhaps but little more. I assume if I use an existing backend as
a template then I should still manage to create compatability with SANE.
Thanks

Ben

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From bert...@zonnet.nl  Sat Jan  7 00:22:43 2006
From: bert...@zonnet.nl (Bertrik Sikken)
Date: Sat Jan  7 00:23:26 2006
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Ben Tasker wrote:
 Hi There,
 Having just bought a Xerox 4800 One touch flatbed scanner and found it
 unsupported (dont ask why i ddint check first) I am going to try and
 create a SANE backend for it. Any help will be greatly appreciated, I
 assume there is no other backend being developed for this scanner?
 Should mention I have no idea how long it will take me to create the
 backend as I havent really done much with SANE before, an interested
 browse through the source perhaps but little more. I assume if I use an
 existing backend as a template then I should still manage to create
 compatability with SANE.

How long it takes depends on a lot of things, but expect something
like 6 months or longer.

Is it an USB scanner? If so, please post the USB vendor and product
ids here (use something like lsusb). There is a chance that there
is already a driver for it.
There is a tool called sane-find-scanner, run it and see what it
reports.

You need to know what's chipset is inside your scanner.
If you know the chipset, you can tehn try to find a datasheet
that describes how to program it. It's not common to find one
though...

Try the check-usb-chip tool, it attempts to identify some known
scanner chips.
Sometimes you can get clues by peeking in the windows driver
files (for example the .inf's) or by looking in the registry.
If you haven't been able to find out more (using the tools
mentioned above), you can perhaps get some more information
by opening it up and taking note of the chip numbers.

If you really need to write a new backend from scratch, you
can use USB sniffer software like http://benoit.papillault.free.fr/usbsnoop/
to capture some USB packets from the windows driver.
When you have taken some, put them up on a website somewhere
and post a link to the mailing list.
Even though the scanner chip may be different from other
scanners, the transport protocol may be similar.

I think it is best to first start with a very simple test
tool that replays some of the captured data. Layer it up
in three parts:
* transport layer that reads/write register settings and
reads/write bulk data. Use libusb to talk to usb.
In the final sane backend, you easily adapt this layer to use
sanei_usb* functions (API is very similar to libusb)
* a core layer that implements the basic functionality for
doing a scan (switching the lamp, moving the carriage, doing
a scan with certain parameters)
* user-interface layer. For the test tool this is simply a
command line / argument parser that calls specific test functions
in the core layer. In the final sane backend, this layer
glues the sane backend interface to your core layer.

I think there's a backend-writing.txt (or something similar)
that describes best practices for coding style etc. to allow
easy integration into sane.

Kind regards,
Bertrik
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