Re: [sane-devel] [janitorial] Relocating the SANE Project

[Jörn-Ingo Weigert]

It's ok with me, having a well known and used interface for pull/merge
requests and on top support for mobile in either web and app form, I do
really appreciate. So let's go to girls.com! *Backpack shouldered*

Am 26.01.2018 9:59 vorm. schrieb "Olaf Meeuwissen" <
paddy-h...@member.fsf.org>:

> Dear all,
>
> TL;DR :: Let's move to GitLab.com!  Mailing list TBD.
>
> # Apologies for the belated follow-up.  I planned to wait a week or so
> # to let the dust settle before following up but then Real Life got in
> # the way :-(
>
> Now for the long story,
>
> On 2018-01-08, Olaf Meeuwissen (that's me!) wrote:
>
> > [ ... Alioth will be discontinued sometime in 2018-05 ... so]
> > the SANE Project will no longer be able to:
> >
> >  - communicate via the mailing lists
> >  - push commits to its official git repositories
> >  - update the bug and feature requests trackers
> >  - update its website
> >
> > So we have to move some place else for our project hosting but where?
>
> I made a couple of suggestions and asked for feedback.  Apart from one
> off-list request to join the SANE project on GitLab.com, not one of the
> SANE developers has chimed in.  I will take that to mean that everyone
> will be fine with whatever gets chosen in the end.  Speak up if that's
> not the case!
>
> The non-developers that did follow up mentioned[1] Sourceforge as a
> possibility (and questioned[2] whether that was serious), offered help
> with moving the mailing list to Debian infra-structure[1] (thanks,
> btw!) and a preference for GitHub[3][4].
>
> There was also a fairly detailed account[5] of the pros and cons of
> GitLab vs. GitHub as well as an offer to host mailing lists[6].
> Finally, there was a hint on how to get release notifications from
> GitHub using an RSS feed[7].
>
> There was the notion that GitLab/GitHub issues and merge/pull requests
> could meaningfully replace a large part of the mailing lists[3][5], yet
> having mailing lists (archives) around would be nice.  Several people
> also pointed out that moving[4][5] and/or mirroring[3] git repositories
> elsewhere would be easy and that GitHub Pages have their "quirks"[5].
> Finally, the fact that GitLab.com supports logging in via GitHub,
> Google, Twitter and BitBucket accounts was pointed out as a pro[5].
> Neither GitHub nor the Debian GitLab instance provide this (although the
> latter could, in theory).
>
>  [1]: https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2018-
> January/035897.html
>  [2]: https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2018-
> January/035900.html
>  [3]: https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2018-
> January/035911.html
>  [4]: https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2018-
> January/035898.html
>  [5]: https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2018-
> January/035899.html
>  [6]: https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2018-
> January/035921.html
>  [7]: https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2018-
> January/035912.html
>
> Taking this all in, and putting the mailing lists issue aside for a bit,
> I still prefer moving to GitLab.com.  In terms of repository, issues and
> merge/pull request support it offers pretty much the same as GitHub, but
> on top of that allows you to log in using accounts users may have with
> (selected) other services.  This, I think, lowers the barrier to report
> issues.  Furthermore, GitLab.com comes with CI out-of-the-box (which is
> used already by the current *unofficial* mirror, btw!).
>
> The idea of putting a repository mirror on GitHub is interesting but I'm
> not sure how pull requests and issues would work out if things are split
> over multiple sites.
>
> Back to mailing lists, I think that for the short term making use of the
> Alioth mail continuation project[8] is our best alternative, although I
> am not exactly clear on that project's status.  If I understand things
> correctly the current list maintainer will be asked to opt in before
> Alioth is discontinued.
>
> I have also considered moving to lists.debian.org but in that case we
> probably won't be able to make the list subscriber-only or moderate
> incoming posts[9][10].
>
>  [8]: https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/MailingListContinuation
>  [9]: https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth#Mailing_lists
>  [10]: https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list
>
> In either case, sane-commit is extremely likely to disappear (you can
> use the commit notification functionality of GitLab instead).  As for
> sane-standard (which has seen less than 100KB gzipped traffic since July
> 2004!), I think it doesn't serve any purpose.  SANE standard discussions
> can be held on sane-devel.  The sane-announce list sees even less
> traffic but does serve a well-defined purpose (prevent announcements
> from "drowning" in the other traffic) and should be migrated together
> with sane-devel.
>
> Anyway, I'll check the status on [8] and look at some other mailing list
> hosting solutions but 

Re: [sane-devel] Broken ADF-support in pixma-backend: devs needed

[Jörn-Ingo Weigert]

Thank Ralph, if you can dig into this, that will be really great. I agree,
tour assumptions regarding same hardware base do make sense. I hope, Canon
engineers had the same idea. ;)

Just give me a hint, if you like to have some debug output to compare from
the model I use when you have time.

Kind regards,

Jörn-Ingo Weigert

Am 13.10.2017 20:28 schrieb "Ralph Little" <littlesincan...@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi,
> I have also had problems with my Canon MF4770N and Rolf has been kind
> enough to assist in the past although it has become increasingly apparent
> that he is really busy with other things.
>
> It still doesn't work and it is something that I would like to rectify.
>
> I do have the skills to get to the bottom of it, but I also don't have
> much time to devote to it but it is on my TODO list sort out.
> For my scanner, some of the setting combinations don't work very well or
> sometimes put the machine in a hardware failure state resulting in my
> having to power cycle it, most likely the result of a timing issue or an
> illegal combination of options. So there is clearly much work to be done. :(
>
> Having gained experience with that I might be able to help with other
> models. I have a feeling that once one is fixed, a number of other models
> will be pretty much the same. Companies like Canon tend to output lots of
> models that are pretty much the same inside and it wouldn't surprise me to
> discover that solving the problem with one would solve the problem with
> many.
>
> When ADF scanning fails on my multi function then I suspect that sane and
> the scanner are out-of-sync, a situation which is difficult to recover from
> without some kind of reset of the scanner itself. Sane thinks that the
> scanner has reported an error and aborts whereas the scanner is waiting for
> instructions to continue the scan from sane.
>
> I will try to put some time aside to deal with this over the next few days
> but I cannot give any guarantees however.
>
> Cheers,
> Ralph Little
>
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[sane-devel] Broken ADF-support in pixma-backend: devs needed

[Jörn-Ingo Weigert]

Hello list!

Since the changes between 1.0.25 to recent 1.0.27 version of Sane it turns
out, that the ADF support for most (if not all) Canon pixma models like
Maxify AIO printers are broken.

Rolf Bensch, maintainer for the pixma-backend, told me that he is too much
involved in other projects, so there is less time to get involved into the
ADF issue and also, he have less experience in this topic.

So I'm looking for an developer here who can help on fixing the ADF.

As it turns out, the use of ADF end in a (silent) segfault when using a
graphic frontend. In result, Simple scan / XSane try to scan but after a
short time the scan progress get cancelled. The ADF does not react in any
way, neither try to move the document nor moving the scan line to the ADF
scan position.

Since this is a long standing behaviour, it would be great, when someone
take a heart and want to dive in to fix it.

Kind regards,

Jörn-Ingo Weigert
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Re: [sane-devel] Mustek A3 scanner on Linux Mint 18

[Jörn-Ingo Weigert]

Hi Derek,

first check if your user in the group who is able to access the Scanner
device. Simply, check with root user (sudo) and the sane tools if they find
and list the scanner. If yes, depending on your distribution, add your user
to the group which can access the device, usually the "scanner" group.

Some scanner needs additional propriate drivers from the vendor, in this
case Mustek, to work correctly.

Hope this help,

Jörn-Ingo Weigert

Am 03.02.2017 22:02 schrieb "Derek Day" <g...@vfemail.net>:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm new to this list, and to Linux (in the process of moving from Windows
> 10). I have a low level of UNIX knowledge from a l.o..n...g time ago, not
> connected with hardware/device problems, and mostly forgotten - so bear
> with me.
>
> I have a Mustek A3 2400S USB scanner which works under Windows 10, but I
> haven't been able to get it working -so far - under Linux.
>
> lsusb reports:
>
> Bus 002 Device 010: ID 055f:0503 Mustek Systems, Inc.
>
> so it looks as though the system knows it's there, but XSANE reports: "no
> devices available".
>
> Similarly neither Simple Scan, Scanimage nor Vuescan can find any device.
>
> If my understanding is correct I believe this scanner is not supported by
> SANE. If I'm correct is there a way to add it to SANE or an alternative to
> SANE? Are my only options to stick with Windows (rgh!) or replace the
> scanner? Where do I go from here?
>
> Derek
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Re: [sane-devel] Mustek A3 scanner on Linux Mint 18

[Jörn-Ingo Weigert]

Hi Derek,

first check if your user in the group who is able to access the Scanner
device. Simply, check with root user (sudo) and the sane tools if they find
and list the scanner. If yes, depending on your distribution, add your user
to the group which can access the device, usually the "scanner" group.

Some scanner needs additional propriate drivers from the vendor, in this
case Mustek, to work correctly.

Hope this help,

Jörn-Ingo Weigert


Am 04.02.2017 11:07 schrieb "James Tappin" <jtap...@gmail.com>:

VueScan is a possibility. Not free software (neither speech nor beer) but
has Linux support for many scanners.

On 4 February 2017 at 06:01, Sean Greenslade <s...@seangreenslade.com>
wrote:

> On February 3, 2017 12:54:56 PM PST, Derek Day <g...@vfemail.net> wrote:
> >Hi All,
> >
> >I'm new to this list, and to Linux (in the process of moving from
> >Windows 10). I have a low level of UNIX knowledge from a l.o..n...g
> >time
> >ago, not connected with hardware/device problems, and mostly forgotten
> >-
> >so bear with me.
> >
> >I have a Mustek A3 2400S USB scanner which works under Windows 10, but
> >I
> >haven't been able to get it working -so far - under Linux.
> >
> >lsusb reports:
> >
> >Bus 002 Device 010: ID 055f:0503 Mustek Systems, Inc.
> >
> >so it looks as though the system knows it's there, but XSANE reports:
> >"no devices available".
> >
> >Similarly neither Simple Scan, Scanimage nor Vuescan can find any
> >device.
> >
> >If my understanding is correct I believe this scanner is not supported
> >by SANE. If I'm correct is there a way to add it to SANE or an
> >alternative to SANE? Are my only options to stick with Windows
> >(rgh!) or replace the scanner? Where do I go from here?
>
> Check this list. If it's not listed, you're SOL unless you are willing to
> code the backend yourself or pay someone else to.
>
> http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html
>
> As far as I'm aware, there isn't any other project that does scanner
> driving in Linux besides SANE.
>
> --Sean
>
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Re: [sane-devel] (no subject)

[Jörn-Ingo Weigert]

Hi juntjoo, it would help when you give us some more details, like used
sane version, used distribution.

Beside that, your systemd command seems not correct, as "...invalid
argument". Please check the manuals to systemd/sysctrl and the content of
the involved saned.socket definitions.

Kind regards,

jiweigert

Am 14.12.2016 13:38 schrieb :

Hi it's me again.  Don't know if you gave up on me but I am trying again
from the beginning.  I have scanned via USB and now am attempting to get it
working over my wifi.

On step two it says:
Step 2: Tell SANE to run as a server (saned)

systemd only

   -

   Execute at a terminal:

   sudo nano /etc/systemd/system/saned.socket

   and input exactly:

   # Defaults for the saned initscript, from sane-utils# To enable
under systemd please read README.Debian# Set to yes to start saned
under SysVRUN=no# Set to the user saned should run
asRUN_AS_USER=sanedmoniker@pc:~$ cat
/etc/systemd/system/saned.socket[Unit]Description=saned incoming
socket[Socket]ListenStream=6566Accept=yesMaxConnections=1[Install]WantedBy=sockets.target



but when I opened up this terminal there was

"run=yes

exit"

and I pasted your instructions in between those lines not knowing if I was
supposed to or paste over them both.  Was I right?


And then down to step three:


Step 3: Tell saned who to share with

Assuming you don't need to control access to the scanner, we will add the
line "192.168.0.0/24" (share with everyone on the local network) after "##
Access list":

## Access list192.168.0.0/24


I did this part but you explained in the beginning we were assuming that my
network address is 192.168.0.1.  I don't know if this is the case or if I
need to worry about it.  Do I or is this a default network address?  Could
this be why I'm having problems?


Then I went to step 4 "clean up tasks:".  Maybe I went too far but I did it
anyway and got this:

ben@Hal:~$ sudo systemctl enable saned.socket
Failed to execute operation: Invalid argument
ben@Hal:~$ sudo systemctl start saned.socket
Failed to start saned.socket: Unit saned.socket is not loaded properly:
Invalid argument.
See system logs and 'systemctl status saned.socket' for details.



Well I think I've gone far enough and will wait for your instruction.
Would love to get this scanner wireless.
Thanks

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Re: [sane-devel] scanimage version

[Jörn-Ingo Weigert]

Hello Vince,

The SANE version in common Linux flavors is 1.0.25, that has nothing to-do
with scanimage which, I am sure, have a higher version number (whatever
that mean to you)

The recent version of SANE is AFAIK 1.0.26

Regards,
Ingo Weiget

Am 04.11.2016 23:56 schrieb "Vince Radice" :

> Hello,
>
> I am having a problem with my scanner - Brother MFC240C.  It worked
> until I upgraded my pc hardware and also the os to Fedora 24 64bit.  I have
> been trying to figure out what is really wrong and came up to a stumbling
> block.  The version of scanimage I have is 1.0.25.  I have contacted the
> current vendor of scanimage. According to them the current version is 5.0
> and is windows only. They do not have the source code to any version
> earlier than 3.0.  I have used xsane in the past but I get an error every
> time I try the scanner.  The error is
>
> Failed to start scanner: Invalid argument
>
> Is this the place to get help trying to figure out what the problem is?
>
> Thank you,
> Vince Radice
>
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[sane-devel] saned bind failed. adress already in use

[Jörn-Ingo Weigert]

Hello List,

I've a problem that saned, which worked good on ver 1.0.24?, after the
latest updates failed to bind on the IP-Adresses given and used succesfully
before.

My system (server): Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
IP: 192.168.2.10
SANE(d): 1.0.25/26-git
Connected Scanner: Canon Maxify MB2050

Attached  the config files I used to provide the scanner to the clients on
the network
IPs: 192.168.2.11 - .13

Client systems are Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but with Sane 1.0.25-git but I dont
thing this problem is client related as the daemon faild to start with
upper error message.

I tried also to use the git version 1.0.26-git from Rolf-Bensch but it
doesnt help.

This drive me nuts are there anything I can provide to fix this problem?

Kind regards,

Ingo Weigert


saned
Description: Binary data


saned.conf
Description: Binary data


pixma
Description: Binary data


dll.conf
Description: Binary data
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Re: [sane-devel] Canon Maxifiy MB2000 series

[Jörn-Ingo Weigert]

Hi Rolf,
The scanner reacts on scanimage --source "Automatic Document Feeder" -l 100
-x 10 -y 10 2>
pixma.log > pixma.pnm (wokeup yes, displaying "Progress .. please wait...
")

unfortunately it dont feed the paper into the adf nor try to scan.

I attached pixma.log and output--test.txt (made with scanimage --test)

hope it help.

2016-03-22 14:15 GMT+01:00 Rolf Bensch <r...@bensch-online.de>:

> Hi,
>
> Sorry, there was a copy and paste error inside the command:
> "Transparency Unit" must be replaced by "Automatic Document Feeder". The
> command for scanning a *single* page is:
>
> $ scanimage --source "Automatic Document Feeder" -l 100 -x 10 -y 10 2>
> pixma.log > pixma.pnm
>
> Maybe the scanner hangs. Then the log file will help debugging this issue.
>
> If you want to use scanimage or xsane scanning more than one page from
> ADF, you need to enable batch mode. Please read the man pages for details.
>
> Therefore I prefer gscan2pdf for ADF scans.
>
> You can create log files in a terminal window with:
>
> $ SANE_DEBUG_PIXMA=11 gscan2pdf &> pixma.log
>
> Maybe you want to check the capabilities of your scanner:
>
> $ scanimage --help
>
> The scanner must be switched on for this test.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers,
> Rolf
>
>
>
> Am 20.03.2016 um 13:05 schrieb Jörn-Ingo Weigert:
> > Here ist a logfile made with scanimage --test because I dont know how to
> > select the ADF as source,
> >
> > I tried scanimage --source "Automatic Document Feeder" and also
> > scanimage --source "ADF"
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Jörn-Ingo Weigert
> >
> > 2015-11-02 22:37 GMT+01:00 Rolf Bensch <r...@bensch-online.de
> > <mailto:r...@bensch-online.de>>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry for my late response.
> >
> > Am 25.10.2015 um 10:55 schrieb Jörn-Ingo Weigert:
> > > I can report that sane does support the rudimentary scanning with
> the
> > > Canon Maxify MB2000 series MFP printer under Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
> > >
> > > I installed the drivers from Canon Website for Linux.
> > > Configured the appropriate permissions to access the scanner device
> > > via USB.
> > >
> > > What works:
> > > - Scanning in 300 / 600dpi works from Flatbed with Ubuntu own
> Simple
> > > Scan and XSane
> > >
> > OK. Many thanks for your report.
> >
> > > What does not work:
> > > - Scanning over / with ADF: The Scanner recognize that there comes
> a
> > > command (display lights up, showing "Process command..." but does
> NOT
> > > activate the feeder or start to scan. :-(
> > > Scanning via Canon own tool scangear works on both flatbed and adf
> scan.
> > >
> > Please sniff the USB protocols from a small scangear adf scan, e.g.
> > 10x10mm @ 75dpi with wireshark.
> > And again in a different log file from Sane in a Linux terminal:
> >
> > (1) $ export SANE_DEBUG_PIXMA=11
> > (2) $ scanimage --source "Transparency Unit" -l 100 -x 10 -y 10 2>
> > pixma.log > pixma.pnm
> >
> > Then I can compare both log files and prepare a patch.
> >
> > > - Scanning in higher resolution like 1200dpi / 2400dpi result in a
> > > doubled interlaced scanning image, however the scan themself work
> but
> > > result in bad image.
> >
> > OK. I can prepare a Patch for 1200 dpi. XSane shouldn't show the
> option
> > for 2400dpi.
> >
> > Please zip the log files. The mailing list rejects large emails.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rolf
> >
> >
>
scanimage: scanning image of size 638x877 pixels at 24 bits/pixel
scanimage: acquiring RGB frame, 8 bits/sample
scanimage: reading one scanline, 1914 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: reading one byte...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 2 bytes... PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 4 bytes... PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 8 bytes... PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 16 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 32 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 64 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 128 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 256 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 512 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 1024 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 2048 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 2047 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 1023 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepp

Re: [sane-devel] Canon Maxifiy MB2000 series

[Jörn-Ingo Weigert]

Hi Rolf,

I've added a usbcap-file with scanning via scangearmp2 using ADF (zipped).
hope it help im not an expert on this.

Unfortunately there is no "Transparency Unit" as source.

Any ideas?

Kind regards,

Ingo Weigert

2015-11-02 22:37 GMT+01:00 Rolf Bensch <r...@bensch-online.de>:

> Hi,
>
> Sorry for my late response.
>
> Am 25.10.2015 um 10:55 schrieb Jörn-Ingo Weigert:
> > I can report that sane does support the rudimentary scanning with the
> > Canon Maxify MB2000 series MFP printer under Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
> >
> > I installed the drivers from Canon Website for Linux.
> > Configured the appropriate permissions to access the scanner device
> > via USB.
> >
> > What works:
> > - Scanning in 300 / 600dpi works from Flatbed with Ubuntu own Simple
> > Scan and XSane
> >
> OK. Many thanks for your report.
>
> > What does not work:
> > - Scanning over / with ADF: The Scanner recognize that there comes a
> > command (display lights up, showing "Process command..." but does NOT
> > activate the feeder or start to scan. :-(
> > Scanning via Canon own tool scangear works on both flatbed and adf scan.
> >
> Please sniff the USB protocols from a small scangear adf scan, e.g.
> 10x10mm @ 75dpi with wireshark.
> And again in a different log file from Sane in a Linux terminal:
>
> (1) $ export SANE_DEBUG_PIXMA=11
> (2) $ scanimage --source "Transparency Unit" -l 100 -x 10 -y 10 2>
> pixma.log > pixma.pnm
>
> Then I can compare both log files and prepare a patch.
>
> > - Scanning in higher resolution like 1200dpi / 2400dpi result in a
> > doubled interlaced scanning image, however the scan themself work but
> > result in bad image.
>
> OK. I can prepare a Patch for 1200 dpi. XSane shouldn't show the option
> for 2400dpi.
>
> Please zip the log files. The mailing list rejects large emails.
>
> Cheers,
> Rolf
>
>


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[sane-devel] Canon Maxifiy MB2000 series

[Jörn-Ingo Weigert]

I can report that sane does support the rudimentary scanning with the Canon
Maxify MB2000 series MFP printer under Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.

I installed the drivers from Canon Website for Linux.
Configured the appropriate permissions to access the scanner device via USB.

What works:
- Scanning in 300 / 600dpi works from Flatbed with Ubuntu own Simple Scan
and XSane

What does not work:
- Scanning over / with ADF: The Scanner recognize that there comes a
command (display lights up, showing "Process command..." but does NOT
activate the feeder or start to scan. :-(
Scanning via Canon own tool scangear works on both flatbed and adf scan.

- Scanning in higher resolution like 1200dpi / 2400dpi result in a doubled
interlaced scanning image, however the scan themself work but result in bad
image.
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