Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi,

ToddAndMargo writes:

> On 02/18/2018 07:16 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>> On 02/18/2018 12:14 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>>> The SANE_DEBUG_BJNP setting was a dead giveaway
>>
>> Hi Olaf,
>>
>> Do you have a link to a list of these?

No.  This is knowledge I have gathered following the list, being a SANE
project admin tinkering with the code, looking at bug reports and what
not.  Failing that, I just `git grep ...` my local source checkout.

That said, the manual pages for all backends should, and normally do,
list the environment variables they support.  Problem is, there's about
80 or so backends :-/  Disabling the ones you don't need, or rather only
leaving the ones you do need enabled ought to help narrowing things down
a bit.

>> Many thanks,
>> -T
>
> Olaf?

Sorry for not replying "immediately", I do have a Real Life ;-)

Hope this helps,
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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-20 Thread ToddAndMargo

On 02/18/2018 07:16 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:

On 02/18/2018 12:14 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:

The SANE_DEBUG_BJNP setting was a dead giveaway


Hi Olaf,

Do you have a link to a list of these?


Many thanks,
-T


Olaf?


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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-19 Thread Johannes Meixner


Hello Olaf,

FYI

On Feb 18 17:08 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote (excerpt):

Richard Ryniker writes:


libsane-imagescan.so.1 is in the rpm package at:

http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/zhonghuaren/Fedora_27/x86_64/imagescan-3.32.0-8.1.x86_64.rpm


# Curious, hosting Fedora packages under an opensuse directory ...


This is because the Open (SUSE) Build Service can build
and is used to build binary packages from source packages
for various Linux distributions, cf.
https://build.opensuse.org/
https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Build_Service
http://openbuildservice.org/


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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-18 Thread ToddAndMargo

On 02/18/2018 12:14 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:

The SANE_DEBUG_BJNP setting was a dead giveaway


Hi Olaf,

Do you have a link to a list of these?


Many thanks,
-T

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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi,

ToddAndMargo writes:

> On 02/17/2018 04:47 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>>>
>>> found 0 devices
>>>
>>> What is this all about?
>>
>> How are we supposed to know?
>
> But, but, but, I thought you knew all and see all!!!
> I should have put the question at the bottom of the post,
> instead of the top.

Indeed!  :-P
# Just like one should put answers after the questions ;-)

> [...snip...]
>>>
>>> In saned@.service, I have debug set to the following:
>>> Environment=SANE_CONFIG_DIR=/etc/sane.d SANE_DEBUG_DLL=255
>>> SANE_DEBUG_BJNP=5
>>> SANE_DEBUG_NET=128
> [...snip...]
>
> Hi Olaf,
>
> Where did you see pixma being call out?  Maybe???

The SANE_DEBUG_BJNP setting was a dead giveaway ;-)

> Here is some more detailed information:
> [...snip...]

I've already replied to that in detail in an earlier mail so I'll skip
repeating myself here.  Hope you don't mind.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Richard,

Richard Ryniker writes:

> libsane-imagescan.so.1 is in the rpm package at:
>
>   
> http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/zhonghuaren/Fedora_27/x86_64/imagescan-3.32.0-8.1.x86_64.rpm

# Curious, hosting Fedora packages under an opensuse directory ...

> but I have only looked to see this file is there.  I have not tried it.
> Perhaps it will offer you a path forward.  I suspect the package
> referenced above originates from:
>
> https://github.com/utsushi/imagescan

  $ rpm -qiv imagescan-3.32.0-8.1.x86_64.rp | grep URL
  URL : http://utsushi.github.io/imagescan/

So yes, it appears to come from that GitHub repository but please read
the page that the URL points to ;-)  This is the first (re)packaging of
the GitHub code that I am just now aware of!

# BTW, I should update the page's content a bit because the EPSON
# Download Center has improved.

However, if you use the imagescan bundle from said download center,

  $ rpm -qiv imagescan-3.35.0-1epson4fedora27.x86_64.rpm | grep URL
  URL : http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/?OSC=LX

which is where I get the sources that I then push to GitHub.

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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi,

ToddAndMargo writes:

> On 02/17/2018 06:13 AM, Richard Ryniker wrote:
>> Does Olaf Meeuwissen's post at
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/sane-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org/msg33846.html
>> help?  It describes imagescan as an Epson product.
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> My scanner is an Epson Perfection V300
>
> I installed iscan-gt-f720-bundle-1.0.1.x64.rpm from

That bundle should support your Perfection V300 just fine.

> https://epson.com/Support/Scanners/Perfection-Series/Epson-Perfection-V19-Photo/s/SPT_B11B231201?review-filter=Linux

Eh, that's for the V19.  Oh, I see now, clicking the Linux Drivers for
Epson Products gets you to

  http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/?OSC=LX

(with which I'm familiar) where you can search for the V300.

> I am able to scan with both xsane and simple-scan, which
> both use the front end.

Looks like you're slightly confused as to what's a frontend and what's
a backend as far as SANE is concerned.  Both xsane and simple-scan are
SANE frontends.  Both use the SANE epkowa backend that came as part of
your bundle (via the SANE dll backend) to communicate with the scanner
(via a non-free interpreter plugin used by the SANE epkowa backend in
your particular case).

> I am not able to scan from the back end using saned
> with either "xsane net:localhost" of PDF Studio.

Here you are using the xsane SANE frontend in combination with the SANE
net backend to communicate with saned, running on localhost.  That, in
turn should be using the SANE epkowa backend (again via the SANE dll
backend) to communicate with your scanner (again via that non-free
interpreter plugin that the SANE epkowa backend relies upon in your
particular case).

> I am able to manually start saned and scan with
> PDF Studio, which always uses saned.

OK, so your saned configuration is good (apart from the fact that you
have to start it manually but that's another issue).

>  From Olag's post, it seems that he is saying
> that there is a different driver for the front end
> and the back end.  But, if I can manually start saned,
> it would seems that I have both in place.

Sorry if I gave you that impression but that's not what I was trying to
say.  Perhaps that my explanations above clarify a bit better how the
various pieces are connected.  If you can scan from your V300 using PDF
Studio and PDF Studio always uses your saned on localhost, then, yes,
you have all the required pieces in place.

>  From the error log, I do believe I am missing
> libsane-imagescan.so.1

That SANE backend does not support the V300, AFAIK.  The SANE epkowa
backend does, with the help of a non-free interpreter (libesintXX.so
IIRC).  The imagescan backend is part of the imagescan RPM that you
appear to have installed from an imagescan-bundle or at least had
installed at one time.  These are *not* the same as the iscan-bundles!

BTW, the V19 is supported by *both* bundles.

Check if you still have it installed, remove it if you don't need it and
remove any references to it from any files below /etc/sane.d/ insofar
still present.  My guess is that the error message you initially posted
is due to you removing the imagescan RPM and that that didn't clean up
any references in the SANE configuration or, heaven forbid, you just
removed selected files manually yourself.

You can remove any imagescan.conf you find below /etc/sane.d/ and should
remove any imagescan entry in dll.conf you find.  That should make that
dll backend error go away but probably still will not fix your "xsane
net:localhost" issue.

In case you want to keep imagescan installed, check that
/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-imagescan.so.1 is not a broken symlink and
points to /usr/lib64/utsushi/sane/libsame-imagescan.so.1.0.27.  That is,
the output of

  readlink -e /usr/lib64/sane/libsane-imagescan.so.1

should produce /usr/lib64/utsushi/sane/libsame-imagescan.so.1.0.27

> For the full error log, see
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1546433
>
> Error log: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1397367
> configuration: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1397368
>
>  From the error log, it looks like saned tried to contact
> the scanners three times and failed because it could not
> find libsane-imagescan.so.1

It does look that way but I think that is mostly due to the log levels
you specified.  Add SANE_DEBUG_EPKOWA=HEX to see what the epkowa backend
has to say when it looks for your V300 (or V19?).

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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-17 Thread ToddAndMargo

On 02/17/2018 05:48 PM, Richard Ryniker wrote:

libsane-imagescan.so.1 is in the rpm package at:

   
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/zhonghuaren/Fedora_27/x86_64/imagescan-3.32.0-8.1.x86_64.rpm

but I have only looked to see this file is there.  I have not tried it.
Perhaps it will offer you a path forward.  I suspect the package
referenced above originates from:

 https://github.com/utsushi/imagescan



Hi Richard,

Tears!  :'(

  # dnf repoquery --whatprovides */imagescan
  Last metadata expiration check: 0:03:36 ago on Sat 17
  Feb 2018 11:33:23 PM PST.
  


  # dnf repoquery --whatprovides */libsane-imagescan
  Last metadata expiration check: 0:03:45 ago on Sat 17
  Feb 2018 11:33:23 PM PST.
  


Sanity check:
 # dnf repoquery --whatprovides firefox
 Last metadata expiration check: 0:07:08 ago on Sat 17
 Feb 2018 11:33:23 PM PST.
 firefox-0:57.0-0.8.fc27.x86_64
 firefox-0:58.0.1-1.fc27.x86_64


I will look in the opensuse repo probably sometime tomorrow.  I
may have to rebuild the SRPM.

Thank you for the help!

-T


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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Ryniker
libsane-imagescan.so.1 is in the rpm package at:

  
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/zhonghuaren/Fedora_27/x86_64/imagescan-3.32.0-8.1.x86_64.rpm

but I have only looked to see this file is there.  I have not tried it.
Perhaps it will offer you a path forward.  I suspect the package
referenced above originates from:

https://github.com/utsushi/imagescan

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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-17 Thread ToddAndMargo

On 02/17/2018 04:47 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:

Hi,

ToddAndMargo writes:


Hi All,

found 0 devices

What is this all about?


How are we supposed to know?  


But, but, but, I thought you knew all and see all!!!
I should have put the question at the bottom of the post,
instead of the top.



What did you do?  What did you expect to
happen?  What happened?


I was unable to scan with saned.  I posted a link
to the full error log below.


Please provide details.  We weren't shoulder-surfing at your place when
this happened and we have neither extra-sensory perception capabilities
nor crystal balls.


If you look at the bug report posted below, the two
attachments give tons of details.


Fedora 26 x 64
Xfce 4.12

sane-backends-1.0.27-9.fc27.x86_64
sane-backends-drivers-scanners-1.0.27-9.fc27.x86_64
sane-backends-drivers-cameras-1.0.27-9.fc27.i686
sane-backends-libs-1.0.27-9.fc27.i686
sane-backends-daemon-1.0.27-9.fc27.x86_64
sane-backends-drivers-scanners-1.0.27-9.fc27.i686
sane-backends-libs-1.0.27-9.fc27.x86_64
sane-backends-drivers-cameras-1.0.27-9.fc27.x86_64

I am trying to get xsane to work with systemd and saned.  When I run
  $ xsane net:localhost

I get the following error pop up:
 Error: Failed to open device `net:localhost': Error during device I/0

In saned@.service, I have debug set to the following:
Environment=SANE_CONFIG_DIR=/etc/sane.d SANE_DEBUG_DLL=255
SANE_DEBUG_BJNP=5
SANE_DEBUG_NET=128

And this error pops up in my debug log:
# journalctl -efx -t saned > saned.log.txt

 996: 032]: [dll] load: searching backend `imagescan' in
`/usr/lib64/sane'
Feb 17 02:59:12 rn4.rent-a-nerd.local saned[4032]: [dll] load: trying to
load `/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-imagescan.so.1'
 Feb 17 02:59:12 rn4.rent-a-nerd.local saned[4032]: [dll] load:
couldn't open `/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or
directory)
 Feb 17 02:59:12 rn4.rent-a-nerd.local saned[4032]: [dll] load:
couldn't find backend `imagescan' (No such file or directory)
 Feb 17 02:59:12 rn4.rent-a-nerd.local saned[4032]: [dll]
sane_get_devices: found 0 devices
 Feb 17 02:59:14 rn4.rent-a-nerd.local saned[4032]: saned exiting


The dll backend not being able to load a backend should not prevent
saned from detect locally connected devices at large.  Looks like you
expect to find a device supported by the pixma backend.  If that's the
case, you may safely remove/purge any imagescan package that you seem to
have picked up from who knows where (EPSON's download site, perhaps?).

Hope this helps,



Hi Olaf,

Where did you see pixma being call out?  Maybe???

Here is some more detailed information:

My scanner is an Epson Perfection V300

I installed iscan-gt-f720-bundle-1.0.1.x64.rpm from

https://epson.com/Support/Scanners/Perfection-Series/Epson-Perfection-V19-Photo/s/SPT_B11B231201?review-filter=Linux

I am able to scan with both xsane and simple-scan, which
both use the front end.

I am not able to scan from the back end using saned
with either "xsane net:localhost" or PDF Studio,
which only uses saned.

I am able to manually start saned and scan with
PDF Studio and "xsane net:localhost".  Well, some
of the time.

An unlimited trial of PDF Studio can be downloaded from
https://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudio/

From the error log, it looks like saned tried to contact
the scanners three times and failed because it could not
find libsane-imagescan.so.1

For the full error log, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1546433

Error log: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1397367
configuration: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1397368

-T


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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-17 Thread ToddAndMargo

On 02/17/2018 06:13 AM, Richard Ryniker wrote:

Does Olaf Meeuwissen's post at
https://www.mail-archive.com/sane-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org/msg33846.html
help?  It describes imagescan as an Epson product.



Hi Richard,

My scanner is an Epson Perfection V300

I installed iscan-gt-f720-bundle-1.0.1.x64.rpm from

https://epson.com/Support/Scanners/Perfection-Series/Epson-Perfection-V19-Photo/s/SPT_B11B231201?review-filter=Linux

I am able to scan with both xsane and simple-scan, which
both use the front end.

I am not able to scan from the back end using saned
with either "xsane net:localhost" of PDF Studio.

I am able to manually start saned and scan with
PDF Studio, which always uses saned.

From Olag's post, it seems that he is saying
that there is a different driver for the front end
and the back end.  But, if I can manually start saned,
it would seems that I have both in place.

From the error log, I do believe I am missing
libsane-imagescan.so.1

For the full error log, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1546433

Error log: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1397367
configuration: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1397368

From the error log, it looks like saned tried to contact
the scanners three times and failed because it could not
find libsane-imagescan.so.1

-T


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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Ryniker
Does Olaf Meeuwissen's post at
https://www.mail-archive.com/sane-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org/msg33846.html
help?  It describes imagescan as an Epson product.

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Re: [sane-devel] libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or directory)

2018-02-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi,

ToddAndMargo writes:

> Hi All,
>
> found 0 devices
>
> What is this all about?

How are we supposed to know?  What did you do?  What did you expect to
happen?  What happened?

Please provide details.  We weren't shoulder-surfing at your place when
this happened and we have neither extra-sensory perception capabilities
nor crystal balls.

> Fedora 26 x 64
> Xfce 4.12
>
> sane-backends-1.0.27-9.fc27.x86_64
> sane-backends-drivers-scanners-1.0.27-9.fc27.x86_64
> sane-backends-drivers-cameras-1.0.27-9.fc27.i686
> sane-backends-libs-1.0.27-9.fc27.i686
> sane-backends-daemon-1.0.27-9.fc27.x86_64
> sane-backends-drivers-scanners-1.0.27-9.fc27.i686
> sane-backends-libs-1.0.27-9.fc27.x86_64
> sane-backends-drivers-cameras-1.0.27-9.fc27.x86_64
>
> I am trying to get xsane to work with systemd and saned.  When I run
>  $ xsane net:localhost
>
> I get the following error pop up:
> Error: Failed to open device `net:localhost': Error during device I/0
>
> In saned@.service, I have debug set to the following:
> Environment=SANE_CONFIG_DIR=/etc/sane.d SANE_DEBUG_DLL=255
> SANE_DEBUG_BJNP=5
> SANE_DEBUG_NET=128
>
> And this error pops up in my debug log:
> # journalctl -efx -t saned > saned.log.txt
>
> 996: 032]: [dll] load: searching backend `imagescan' in
> `/usr/lib64/sane'
> Feb 17 02:59:12 rn4.rent-a-nerd.local saned[4032]: [dll] load: trying to
> load `/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-imagescan.so.1'
> Feb 17 02:59:12 rn4.rent-a-nerd.local saned[4032]: [dll] load:
> couldn't open `/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-imagescan.so.1' (No such file or
> directory)
> Feb 17 02:59:12 rn4.rent-a-nerd.local saned[4032]: [dll] load:
> couldn't find backend `imagescan' (No such file or directory)
> Feb 17 02:59:12 rn4.rent-a-nerd.local saned[4032]: [dll]
> sane_get_devices: found 0 devices
> Feb 17 02:59:14 rn4.rent-a-nerd.local saned[4032]: saned exiting

The dll backend not being able to load a backend should not prevent
saned from detect locally connected devices at large.  Looks like you
expect to find a device supported by the pixma backend.  If that's the
case, you may safely remove/purge any imagescan package that you seem to
have picked up from who knows where (EPSON's download site, perhaps?).

Hope this helps,
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