Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Vasili Wylie
it is not all about office365, I don't use that and I was kicked off. On Fri, 11/16/18, Paul Richard Thomas wrote: Subject: Re: kicked off the list via Office 365? To: bferr...@baywinds.org Cc: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@fnal.gov Date: Friday,

Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list ** EXTERNAL **

2018-11-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM Howard, Chris wrote: > > I think they determined that I was wrong... > Actually, I don't really know. So I should sit back and let the experts work. > Good idea about the spam folder. You're very welcome. I've been a spamhunter since well, since the "Green

RE: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list ** EXTERNAL **

2018-11-16 Thread Howard, Chris
I think they determined that I was wrong... Actually, I don't really know. So I should sit back and let the experts work. Good idea about the spam folder. -Original Message- From: Nico Kadel-Garcia Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:50 PM To: Howard, Chris Cc: Troy Dawson ;

Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list ** EXTERNAL **

2018-11-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 10:26 AM Howard, Chris wrote: > > I think you have it backwards: > > > > Your Office 365 account has been rejecting emails from the scientific linux > listserv software. Check the "spam" folder of your Office365 account. Their spam filtering is fairly aggressive, and it

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 08:05:32PM +, Teh, Kenneth M. wrote: > ANL just rolled out spf, dkim, and dmarc handling for emails. I've heard that > mailman lists don't play with these new requirements. I've spent this past > week > reconfiguring postfix on my machines and noticed that

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Teh, Kenneth M.
ANL just rolled out spf, dkim, and dmarc handling for emails. I've heard that mailman lists don't play with these new requirements. I've spent this past week reconfiguring postfix on my machines and noticed that protection.outlook.com marks my outbound emails as having failed dkim even though

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
> > > The curious thing is that it was an Outlook message whereas the > > receiving email handler is gmail. I would guess, therefore, that the > > problem is occurring at the Fermilab end. > > 'guessing' about causes of failures in the face of a > straightforward explanation, testible by

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 05:38:02PM +, Paul Richard Thomas wrote: > > ... those not versed in these problems with office365 ? > One word answer is "Microsoft". Two word answer is "opaque, mysterious, proprietary" (all synonyms for the same thing). If not for Microsoft, the open source

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Bonnie King
Hello, Some users were erroneously unsubscribed from the list due to an issue between the listserv and Fermilab's email provider. The subscriber list has been restored. Sorry for the inconvenience. On 11/16/2018 12:40 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > On Fri, 16 Nov 2018, Paul Richard Thomas wrote: > >>

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018, Paul Richard Thomas wrote: > The curious thing is that it was an Outlook message whereas the > receiving email handler is gmail. I would guess, therefore, that the > problem is occurring at the Fermilab end. 'guessing' about causes of failures in the face of a

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Paul Richard Thomas
Thanks Russ, The curious thing is that it was an Outlook message whereas the receiving email handler is gmail. I would guess, therefore, that the problem is occurring at the Fermilab end. My gmail account seems to collect all spam coming its way - I check it about once a week and mark wanted

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018, Paul Richard Thomas wrote: > Could somebody explain why this is happening to those not versed in > these problems with office365 ? Every receiver of email decides the policies under which it will accept it, or indeed, whether it will accept an offered piece at all.

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Paul Richard Thomas
Hi All, Could somebody explain why this is happening to those not versed in these problems with office365 ? Is it likely that we are losing other emails or is this some peculiarity of the Fermilab setup? I haven't seen any similar warning messages but have suffered sporadically from people

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 11/16/18 9:25 AM, Franchisseur Robert wrote: -- Le (On) 2018-11-16 + à (at) 10:25:46 Fred Liu écrivit (wrote): -- me too So after this message I subscribe with an other address for nothing :( Two years ago I got the same with a different diag : -

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Franchisseur Robert
-- Le (On) 2018-11-16 + à (at) 10:25:46 Fred Liu écrivit (wrote): -- > me too > So after this message I subscribe with an other address for nothing :( Two years ago I got the same with a different diag : - The last reported error was: 5.6.0 552 5.6.0

Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list

2018-11-16 Thread Olek Proskurowski
mercury4-olek-~{504}: nslookup > set q=mx > listserv.fnal.gov Server: 128.32.156.23 Address:128.32.156.23#53 Non-authoritative answer: listserv.fnal.gov mail exchanger = 10 listserv-fnal-gov.mail.protection.outlook.com. On 11/16/2018 8:43 AM, Maarten wrote: I got the

Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list

2018-11-16 Thread Maarten
I got the same error message, although I don't get  the last reported error since I'm not using outlook.com as my email service provider. Must be  the problem that was mentioned earlier that the list has switched to outlook.com/office 365? On 11/15/18 7:02 AM, Fermilab LISTSERV Server (16.0)

Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list ** EXTERNAL **

2018-11-16 Thread Andrew Z
Oh "great" :( Im itching to say "welcome to M$crosoft" and (re)start the holy war. Hope guys will fix it soon. Thank you for the clarification Steven. On Fri, Nov 16, 2018, 10:56 Steven C Timm Prety much everyone got unsubscribed from the list including the > listowners, they have been trying

Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list

2018-11-16 Thread Gilles Detillieux
I got one of those e-mails yesterday too. I hadn't looked that closely at the headers, but you're right, it does seem that the Fermilab Listserv has been moved to Microsoft servers (outlook.com & office365.com in the Received headers). Other people who've reported this removal on this list all

Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list ** EXTERNAL **

2018-11-16 Thread Steven C Timm
Prety much everyone got unsubscribed from the list including the listowners, they have been trying to restore it. Apparently some recent messages from the list were bounced back for sending outbound spam. Steve From:

Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list ** EXTERNAL **

2018-11-16 Thread John Pilkington
On 16/11/18 15:26, Howard, Chris wrote: I think you have it backwards: Your Office 365 account has been rejecting emails from the scientific linux listserv software. Eventually the listserv gives up and  dumps you off of the list. So blame whoever moved you to Office365. I received an

Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list ** EXTERNAL **

2018-11-16 Thread Andrew Z
That how i read it too. But im on gmail . So unless google sold gmail to m$ On Fri, Nov 16, 2018, 10:26 Howard, Chris I think you have it backwards: > > > > Your Office 365 account has been rejecting emails from the scientific > linux listserv software. > > Eventually the listserv gives up

RE: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list ** EXTERNAL **

2018-11-16 Thread Howard, Chris
I think you have it backwards: Your Office 365 account has been rejecting emails from the scientific linux listserv software. Eventually the listserv gives up and dumps you off of the list. So blame whoever moved you to Office365. From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov On

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list

2018-11-16 Thread Andrew Z
Same here. On Fri, Nov 16, 2018, 10:11 ONeal, Miles I got the same thing, I've just been too busy to look at it. > > On 11/16/2018 09:04 AM, Troy Dawson wrote: > > I got something similar. > I was about to mark it as spam, and now that I see that someone else got > the same thing, I'm definitely

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list

2018-11-16 Thread ONeal, Miles
I got the same thing, I've just been too busy to look at it. On 11/16/2018 09:04 AM, Troy Dawson wrote: I got something similar. I was about to mark it as spam, and now that I see that someone else got the same thing, I'm definitely marking it as spam. I certainly hope that Fermilab's list-serve

Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list

2018-11-16 Thread Troy Dawson
I got something similar. I was about to mark it as spam, and now that I see that someone else got the same thing, I'm definitely marking it as spam. I certainly hope that Fermilab's list-serve hasn't been switched to something called "onmicrosoft.com" And ... then I just looked ... and indeed it

Re: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list

2018-11-16 Thread Fred Liu
I lost the mails from 11/12 to 11/15 ... Fred Liu 于2018年11月16日周五 下午6:41写道: > > What is this? > > -- Forwarded message - > From: Fermilab LISTSERV Server (16.0) > Date: 2018年11月15日周四 下午2:02 > Subject: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list > To: > > > > Thu, 15 Nov

Fwd: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list

2018-11-16 Thread Fred Liu
What is this? -- Forwarded message - From: Fermilab LISTSERV Server (16.0) Date: 2018年11月15日周四 下午2:02 Subject: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list To: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 00:02:23 You have been automatically removed from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list (Mailing

RE: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Fred Liu
me too > -Original Message- > From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov > [mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of Howard, > Chris > Sent: 星期四, 十一月 15, 2018 23:39 > To: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@fnal.gov > Subject: kicked off the list via Office 365? >