Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-06 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ed > > with 64-bit numbers. > > *Has anyone encountered this issue? *3. The Red Hat 8 manual also warns > > that using xfs_repair -L might cause significant file system damage and > > data loss and should only be used as a last resort. The manual does not > > mention a

Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
rebuild failing because multiple disks have have sectors and I/O errors goes up with the number of disks. ZFS was invented to resolve all these problems. (BTRFS was invented as a NIH erzatz ZFS, is still incomplete wrt RAID5/RAID6). Bottom line, if you can, use ZFS. Current Ubuntu install

Solution, Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-12 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 08:18:14PM -0800, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > I cannot ssh to SL6 machines from current MacOS or Debian 20 or 22: > root@daq00:~# ssh ladd00 > Unable to negotiate with 142.90.111.60 port 22: no matching host key type > found. Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss >

Re: Perpetual Data (SL6 ssh fail)

2023-01-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
hard way. K.O. > Another condecending Unix / Linux user. > By the way my great,great,great grandfather was a Hessian solder and > decided he like the country, jumped ship, married a lady and had 12 > Children. > > Larry Linder > > > > On Tue, 2023-01-10 at 11:49 -0800

Re: Perpetual Data (SL6 ssh fail)

2023-01-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
tracers for medical imaging). This concludes your virtual tour of TRIUMF. You are welcome. K.O. On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 11:49:49AM -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > > From: Konstantin Olchanski > > Subject: Re: SL6 ssh fail > ... > > It looks like my remaining option is to build op

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ications, which exploits? AFAIK, there is no remote exploits against SL6 ssh, there is no remote exploits against SL6 apache and there is no remote exploits agaist SL6 linux kernels. If you know otherwises, please post a list of applicable CVEs. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
forget about cyberwarefare malicious exploit codes. I looked at the stuff a few times, just for kicks. Yes, beyound my ken. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
nal ssh and https access is required by function. - VMs, containers - shuffle chairs in the titanic, does not address any of the issues above. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-06 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
m CentOS-7 to Ubuntu 22 and upgrade from Ubuntu 20 to Ubuntu 22 has higher priority than upgrades from SL6. So SL6 machines exist, they perform useful function, it takes a significant effort to upgrade them (with no functional gain). In the mean time, nobody apprecates unnecessary rocking the boat (br

SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
: bash-3.2$ ssh -oHostKeyAlgorithms=+ssh-rsa -oPubKeyAcceptedAlgorithms=+ssh-rsa ladd00 Last login: Thu Jan 5 19:18:20 2023 from daq07.triumf.ca ladd00:~$ -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-08 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
life cycle for each major version, extended architecture > >>support, rapid release cycle, upstream community contributions, and > >>support for security advisory metadata. In testing, it has demonstrated > >>to be perfectly compatible with the other rebuilds and Red Hat >

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-07 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
.S. Some users are comfortable with RHEL, they know how to use "yum", etc. Well with recent RHEL "yum" is replaced by "dnf", so that argument "for RHEL" is out the window now. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

cancel "root", Re: perfect chick / egg problem

2022-01-15 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
mputing-29=DwIBAg=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=BKDVbYIeJ3JjTcyH776AZjH4S7cTX0nCx3dPPhiOOsgvsoap5Ow8c6oNZ9Doc4YZ=PnJeRPP6pHxJ6QMu1YLijSn0I7aoLUiM2fID8xm8jck= -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca

Re: perfect chicken egg Alma Web site.

2022-01-03 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
. Got two new Dilbert books for Christmas > - there really a hoot. Reminds me of a place where I used to work. > > Happy New Year > Larry Linder -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Repo for updateso to an old SL

2021-12-20 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ommon web sites. But as likely as not, your SL6 computer is the size of a raspberry pi, universally available for $100, comes with raspbian/debian linux, no centos linux confusion needs to apply. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca S

Re: Need to add ftp to SL 6 machine

2021-11-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
refox?) did manage to connect (after spewing nonsense about expired https certificates) but then my javascript was too old and the login page did not work. So sometimes you have to "turn back the clock" and use "obsolete" and "insecure" and even "it's so dange

Re: Need to add ftp to SL 6 machine

2021-11-04 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ou sure > about doing this? I would presume the OP has a clue and they are running the ftp server on a private network or with firewall rules to restrict access to trusted machines. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 40

Re: Need to add ftp to SL 6 machine

2021-11-04 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
write a yum config file. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: timeshift

2021-08-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
oftware and services. Cheapest solution may be a backblaze subscription. You never know until you do the numbers. You cannot have something for nothing, you have to spend real $$$ somewhere and you should never value your time at $0/hour. P.S. This would be $10 please. Payable to my paypal.

Re: Disk reliability - and swap out`

2021-08-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ertification for a specific experimental data or control device > (although I do look for such certifications on the actual circuit > breaker -- accidents are not nice). > > On 8/10/21 4:00 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 03:34:00PM -0700, Y

Re: Disk reliability - and swap out`

2021-08-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
at Harvard, Stanford, etc.) -- > administrative and some instructional facilities typically can get > much more. Many universities now outsource to paid "cloud" storage, > with all of the issues that may entail. > > On 8/10/21 3:08 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > >Hi, Larry

Re: Back UP

2021-08-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
rever the support team - buy a MAC. > a "+1" on this one. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Disk reliability - and swap out`

2021-08-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
eloaded all the systems. So when you shout down the network to your > provider the next time your start it you get a different IP. > > We don't give the disks away as they contain a lot of design data, > SW,Cad programs, part programs for our mill etc. We donate them to a > charity

Re: timeshift

2021-08-08 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
d anyone recommend? > ... [need] tool [that] actually "works". > get a mac and use the built-in incremental backup tool called "time machine". spend more $$$, save on time, headache medicines and torn hair repair (assuming you still had any). -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acq

Re: customize Xsetup_0 , file is not executed

2021-08-03 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
etty well understood, but all this new stuff is an undocumented mess, different on every linux. IMO. one solution could be to run vanilla xdm, then your Xsetup should work. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesb

Re: Scientific Linux Advice

2021-06-29 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ncile those. > > > > I would appreciate any suggestion or advice on the best upgrade path to > achieve this update and would be happy to take recommendations on > individuals or companies who might be interested in a professional service > engagement to help solve the problem. &

Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?

2021-05-06 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
nd much of that waiting is maybe for EL9 and to see if Rocky releases > > something that creates a better community than Alma has managed. Though I'm > > still betting on a company backed project getting going and keeping going > > much better in the short term anyway. > >

Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?

2021-05-06 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 01:22:06AM +0100, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 05/05/2021 23:13, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > > > Things seem to be much quieter and event-less in the BSD and Debian (& co) > > camps. > > I greatly fear that the BSDs are gradually losing the

Re: c++17,17,20... - was Re: [SL-Users] Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?

2021-05-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 11:00:00PM +0100, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > On Tue, 4 May 2021, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > >- first slide of "distribution landscape" is nonsense, > >with everybody stuck with el7 for another 3 years and > >bye, bye, c++14, c++17

Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?

2021-05-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
; of CentOS, unexpected death of CentOS Linux). Things seem to be much quieter and event-less in the BSD and Debian (& co) camps. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] [SL-Users] Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?

2021-05-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
. (I see notices for RHEL, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. Of course CentOS "Linux" follows the RHEL CVEs). Now I have to ask, does "CentOS Stream" even follow the CVE process? (notices of vulnerability, "fix available", etc). (CentOS "Linux" follows the RHEL CV

Re: [SL-Users] Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?

2021-05-04 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
there is no review/evaluation of it's technical suitability for HEP specific needs. Good/bad/etc compared to el7 and compared to non-RPM alternatives (ubuntu, etc). And there is many questions, none answered. It looks like everybody will have to do their own evaluation and decide for the

any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?

2021-04-30 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
to Q2 2021, and there is no new information. The CentOS forums are graveyard quiet. (censored?) Any information from the FermiLab side of things? Any information from the SL side of things? Any rumours? I opened a support ticket with CERN about this, let's see what they say. -- Konstantin Olch

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Code bias video, watch it ASAP

2021-04-27 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
hotos they took to > document a parking ticket, really ticked him off when I very obviously > took photos at angles that showed the car was, in fact parked near a > sign that gave permission and curb markings that matched. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.

2021-04-03 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
, will happen again. cease letters, AT/BSDI and SCO/IBM-style law suits, offers-you-cannot-refuse to principal developers, etc. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
;the end of > >CentOS as we know it" without providing (a) and (b) ahead of time > >d) by not providing 32-bit x86 and 32-bit ARM versions of RHEL they are at a > >severe disadvantage in places like a typical Physics lab (CentOS used to > >provide both, but they killed it). > > > >So there. There is nothing wrong with RHEL8. If it works for you, use it! > > -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ing 32-bit x86 and 32-bit ARM versions of RHEL they are at a severe disadvantage in places like a typical Physics lab (CentOS used to provide both, but they killed it). So there. There is nothing wrong with RHEL8. If it works for you, use it! -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
) c) telling everybody to install Ubuntu or wait for CERN ("We will keep you informed about any developments in this area during Q1 2021." with Q1 ending in 25 days or so). If RHEL8 (or clone) for 32-bit ARM and 32-bit x86 did exist... but... I think... The ship has sailed. -- Konstantin Ol

Re: not all ports detected on 7-port Sabrent usb hub

2021-02-12 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
x is correct). The best I can tell, linux drives it with the generic USB hub driver. So: a) all 7 ports should work (in USB2 mode, so plug a mouse or a keyboard to check) b) no idea why the USB3 component is not detected. most likely you are plugged into a USB2 port (or a USB3 port disabled in the

Re: not all ports detected on 7-port Sabrent usb hub

2021-02-12 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
or shipping completeley different devices (different chips, different linux drivers) under the same part number. Bait-and-switch in action. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: numfmt issue on SL 7.9; possible bug?

2021-02-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ate it as reliably as I would prefer on > upstream vendor, but every single SL 7.9 system I've tried has had > coreutils-8.22-24.el7_9.2.x86_64 and incorrectly returns 'nan'. > > I'm hoping the devs can confirm and/or offer suggestions. > > Thanks! > ~Stack~ -- Konstantin O

Re: converting to RHEL8...

2021-02-07 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 10:07:43AM -0800, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > Here we go. Conversion from CentOS-8 to RHEL-8 in 5 easy steps. > > > > Instructions for converting CentOS to RHEL are posted here: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__access.red

Re: converting to RHEL8...

2021-02-04 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
well as network interruptions, I prefer to do a > "fresh" install from local media. Is there a mechanism short of > duplicating an entire distro web site of producing such an image for > Springdale 8 EL? > Off-topic here. Please take it to the Springdale support forum. --

Re: converting to RHEL8...

2021-02-04 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
PPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=Bwvu8ORtdwu_qqgSySYBdSQ5VFU2sSZyj1XlHQ96Gz4=EB5q0Mf4XnrLhTF5rmgjfjnR71LWhzI4xDHIRPwvwx8= > > dnf distro-sync -y > > the distro-sync will reinstall every package > > Ching Him -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Pondering a switch to Debian

2021-02-04 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
th them. Me, I am not worried, between debian/ubuntu, "free" RHEL and upcoming CentOS reincarnations, our needs for open source operating systems are covered. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Pondering a switch to Debian

2021-02-04 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
mpressed that quartus 13.0sp1 can be made to run on current debian/ubuntu only "with little blood". Intel have now dropped support for even more FPGAs from the current quartus, so it looks like we will be battling this forever. (Our hardware guys are grumbling about switching to Xilin

Re: converting to RHEL8...

2021-02-04 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 12:26:00PM -0800, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > Here we go. Conversion from CentOS-8 to RHEL-8 in 5 easy steps. > > Instructions for converting CentOS to RHEL are posted here: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__access.redhat.com_a

Re: converting to RHEL8...

2021-02-04 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
; I used to publish scripts for this, for switching from RHEL to CentOS to > Scientific Linux and other combinations. > Time to dust them off, I guess. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall,

Re: Pondering a switch to Debian

2021-02-03 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
s with RPM (yum replaced with dnf) and made it easier to build RPM packages. For installing cross-platform scripts, I am switching from RPM to "git clone; make install (installs to /opt)". -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot

converting to RHEL8...

2021-02-01 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
tructions the step for obtaining and installing a Red Hat subscription activation key. I assume I get the activation key somewhere in my Red Hat developer account, but I did not find the button to do this yet, and I do not know what to do with the activation key anyway. To be continued... -- Konstantin

Re: sudo fix for SL6

2021-01-29 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
rpm --upgrade -vh /daq/daqstore/olchansk/linux/SL/sudo-1.9.5-3.el6.x86_64.rpm [root@ladd00 ~]# sudo -V Sudo version 1.9.5p2 -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

sudo fix for SL6

2021-01-27 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=DdnVo6dknCRTqounMfG7Q82qFx2i7ANhA2ba5RkXC4g=R-6UJIwBbW5KnUMkSLmGuGA03CoQQ0nkVLXkC2ogupA= Now, any chance of fixed package for SL6? (just checked, no fix in CERN SLC6, no fix in EPEL). -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes

Re: Rhel 8

2021-01-25 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
s "never reboot" and never see systemd shortcomings (and get no benefit from "systemd fast booting"). -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Rhel 8

2021-01-25 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
clearly, basic debugging and basic system operational needs are not important to the systemd designers and developers. And I guess it is all my fault, I should have rooted for the right team back in 2002 (or whenever) on the Fedora and Debian mailing lists. Instead, I was asleep at the switch, being a

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: arstechnica: "CentOS is gone-but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers"

2021-01-21 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ts cannot go to the Moon, etc. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: arstechnica: "CentOS is goneā€”but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers"

2021-01-21 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
And what about CentOS/RHEL on ARM? Today, we run CentOS-7 on ARM just fine, but going forward? Does somebody expect us to run ARM with Raspbian/Debian/Ubuntu, but stick with RHEL on x86? Really? In our detector lab, ARM machines just about outnumber x86 machines. The direction that is going, maybe

Re: Way Off Topic - HEP Network Symphony Orchestra

2020-12-22 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 04:24:33PM -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > > There are probably more symphony fans than high energy > physics fans (many physicists are both) ... > Hmm... I am not a fan. I am a blower of flutes and whistles! -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition System

Re: Update from Rocky EL

2020-12-17 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
e kernel level innovation are the "never corrupts" filesystem (mostly due to "never crashes" hardware, I suspect) and improved VM (encrypted *and* in-memory compressed, impressive!). Anyhow, today, MacOS wins at ping-pong while the game is hockey, if Apple still built hard

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
of "unsafe". Must make a distinction between "centos is unsafe" vs "redhat is unsafe" vs "linux is unsafe" vs "any use of computer is unsafe". ("safe as certified by recognized authority" need not apply, cars and airplanes are certif

Re: SL7 with security and bug fixes forever - how much work?

2020-12-14 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
at you can cram more of them in the same cooling-limited volume, yielding good "performance/m^3", important for building supercomputers. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
the security of the Princeton build process? (including signatures of source code, signatures of binary packages, security of the mirror network, etc). -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Va

Re: SL7 with security and bug fixes forever - how much work?

2020-12-14 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
quot;amazing slow downer", I remember paying for an updated license (an app well worth the money, recommended. but very specialized of course). Moving our linux work from x86 to ARM is similarly a non-event, except for the need to cross-compile for some non-self-hosting embedded machines. -

Re: SL7 with security and bug fixes forever - how much work?

2020-12-14 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
arts pushing it. SL7 with custom-built linux kernel, glibc, sshd, httpd, kde, php100 and python3000 is probably not SL7 anymore. The label "SL7" is only useful if it refers to something well defined. If every instance of SL7 has a different linux kernel, different versions of devtool

Re: SL7 with security and bug fixes forever - how much work?

2020-12-14 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
en behind the glamour/glitter of MacOS. As summary, "SL7 is forever" is possible: a) retrofit current production release linux kernels (i.e. from elrepo, or build from source) b) retrofit the "ports" or "homebrew" system from the Mac world. How much work it takes? Ask e

Re: Rocky Linux

2020-12-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
structive critisim well. > Every good rule is proven by exceptions. Slackware and Knoppix. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Dose any of this surprize you.

2020-12-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
right now. I cannot fathom how Red Hat did not "ask around" before going public with their decision. (unless the decision was forced on them externally). > > So the sword had many sharp edges. > Well, it is the dull sword that is most dangerous (to the user). Join your lo

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
DXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=m57TS8KUJogsGkZGVKvoL8D7gIzlEIxZsrqSEhDOgqk=Hgd0S_7BGuuCKHIfyfpJaucFixwNwISvlHKpHhHwg4E= -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-08 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
end and in 1 year will will have to upgrade *again*, Ubuntu may become the preferred solution. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Retiring SL 6.10

2020-12-01 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
em back up is still used. That is what we do to ovoid * - 8 OS's. > As long as they don't louse up the file system this is a good way to > work. > > My two cents worth. > Larry Linder -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: cernlib on SL7 ?

2020-11-25 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
learn C++ and ROOT - as all knowledge of things Fortran is fading away as people retire and/or move on. Most of the stuff that made cernlib so useful have now been migrated into ROOT, minuit, geant3, you name it. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: ol

Re: SL 6

2020-10-17 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
on RHEL-7/RHEL-8/Ubuntu-LTS-20, in a VM, in a container, by hook or crook. (Assume I know how to untar a tarball). -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] RedHat have broken Grub again

2020-10-17 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
switching to grub and later switching to grub2. grub2 "is good" only for people who never worked with other boot loaders (syslinux/pxelinux, uboot, etc). On modern machines, UEFI BIOS can boot Linux directly (with a secureboot shim), and grub is an unnecessary. -- Konstantin Olchan

Re: SL 6

2020-10-16 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
has been roughly in the middle of my to-do list for the last 2-3 years. Thanks in advance! -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: SL 6

2020-10-16 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
to provide a solution for the OP and for myself? How come RHEL/SL/CentOS-8 does not come preinstalled with a package to "boot an SL3/SL4/SL5/RHEL6/RHEL7 VM image now!". (Yes, we still have hardware that required an m68k crosscompiler that runs on SL4. We even have a physical machine for this, a dual

Re: {Suspected Spam} [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-ERRATA] Security ERRATA Moderate: grub2 on SL7.x x86_64

2020-07-31 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ems-2Darent-2Dbooting-2Ddue-2Dto-2Dboothole-2Dpatches_=DwIFAg=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=ZJFLG-LZXHbZaOOov5YYtDvNbEGgJLbZ-4qfeU8texw=IJoGo8uh2FpBogxuemlmB1gOAOfqHhBmhPrrDgTb0-8= > > > The University of St Andrews is a charity reg

Re: Recovering root password

2020-06-24 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 09:36:58AM -0700, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > Well, we do not have to tell them *all* of our secrets, do we? > Funny, enough, just stumbled on this: https://linux.web.cern.ch/centos8/docs/singleuser/ -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The B

Re: Recovering root password

2020-06-23 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
never actually use the root password to login into root). -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: off SL

2020-05-27 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
"install on ZFS", and where is MATE/KDE/Cinnamon, and where is all the "deprecated" drivers, and where is the replacement for "deprecated" NIS, and where is the "we take systemd bugs seriously"?). "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark"

Re: Mate for CentOS 8

2020-05-21 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ook at the versions of python, php, gcc, etc, and again Ubuntu seems to be the direction. So the writing is on the wall, I can see it and I can read it. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Mate for CentOS 8 (thanks)

2020-05-19 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
> > Finding the gnome3 text rendering flaw will be more difficult. > That flaw is why my subnotebooks still run SL6. > > > Keith > > -- > Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Revisiting Cent 8

2020-03-18 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
hese days. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Revisiting Cent 8

2020-03-17 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
e desktop is very bad. Ubuntu has: gnome, mate, cinnamon, kde, lxde (I think), maybe a few more. > > As you all can guess is that I am an engineer and not an IT person. > Thank goodness. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Who Uses Scientific Linux, and How/Why?

2020-02-25 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
" written in the specs (not "Debian"), etc. > > Of course, and maybe only in hindsight, we know Debian's organization is > more robust an entity than RH's ended up being. Ironically, Debian also > contains far far more science-related packages than the distribution > w

Re: Is Scientfic Linux Still Active as a Distribution?

2020-02-23 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
omputing/cern-ends-trial-facebook-workplace (link to CERN Microsoft Alternatives project) https://home.cern/news/news/computing/migrating-open-source-technologies (link to CERN "drop box") http://information-technology.web.cern.ch/services/CERNBox-Service -- Konstantin Olchanski

Re: EL 8

2020-02-06 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
I have contacted who did a clean install of > >> > >> Is there a reason you have to avoid CentOS? The SL devs have stated that > >> they will not develop SL8 and instead put their resources into CentOS. > > > > I hate to say this, but CentOS is pretty slow

Re: EL 8

2020-01-31 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
Actually will upgrade > you automatically to those unless you're using a server installation. > No way around this, if stock kernel does not have a driver for your hardware, you have to use some other kernel, by hook or crook. Build kernel from sources, in the worst case. True for any

Re: EL 8

2020-01-31 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
years. > Seconded. Certainly carried us through what, 15 years of worry free and trouble free Linux OS? Yup, since SL3 in 2005 on our first 64-bit AMD Opteron machines, until 2020 today. K.O. > > Best regards, > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 06:25:34PM -0800, Konstantin Olchanski

Re: EL 8

2020-01-30 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
ull; make install" to install and manage the 2-3-4 scripts that I manage with RPM packages right now. I have been saying the above to everybody for the last 6 months and not a single person so far had answered with "let's stick with Red Hat" or "let's stick with Red Hat be

Re: Red Hat on the Desktop - was Re: Calibre current

2020-01-30 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
(yes, "everything" will fit on my 120GB SSD) - no upgrade tool to go from version N to version N+1. To me this smells like "we started with Red Hat Linux 9.0, added tons of laptop-centric stuff, branded it as 'enterprise linux', and BTW we are also desktop friendly". -- Konsta

Re: centOS 8

2019-10-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
n for > > >> the mentally challanged. Run my IBM computer the way I designed it or > > >> just go away. You can only run my programs you can download. Most look > > >> retarded such as "CHEESE" is there a connection between title and > > >> function - its a major stretch of the immagination. > > >> > > >> It wants you use a cloud for everything - we don't want to use the cloud > > >> for anything. Our internet provider sometimes takes a 1/2 hr nap during > > >> the day. Its very fast when it works. (Spectrum) - AT in our > > >> location was hopeless, bad service, bad price. > > >> > > >> For now we are going to upgrade all systems to SL 7.7 and then look for > > >> a linux that is usefull for real engineering, manufacturing and > > >> business. > > >> > > >> The labs should look at building there own. > > >> > > >> Any suggestions? > > >> > > >> I will go back to work and give up on centos 8. If I had purchased > > >> RedHat 8 I would be really ped for getting ripped off. > > >> > > >> Larry Linder > > >> > > > -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: centOS 8 install crash

2019-09-29 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
rd the error messages to centOS I will try a > third time next weekend. > > Thank You > Larry Linder > MicroControls LLC -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Q: Centos vs SL

2019-09-16 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
is perfectly capable of) ensures the continuation of CentOS, I would think. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: Help with root password

2019-08-01 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
> from time to time > > Before the system is up and recognizing, to do fsck' and such > which require the root password to be executed, comes to mind > > > -- Russ herrold -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot

Re: RE Future:

2019-04-29 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
r CentOS, the CERN organization, in collaboration with US and European Physics labs, has the technical capability of carrying the Red Hat flavour of linux forward forever. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: question regarding the future

2019-04-28 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
mething goes wrong and one of the services restarted by the systemd update does not restart correctly yielding a dead machine. Rant over. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
utlook message whereas the > >>> receiving email handler is gmail. I would guess, therefore, that the > >>> problem is occurring at the Fermilab end. > >> > >> 'guessing' about causes of failures in the face of a > >> straightforward explanation, testible

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
With luck Fermilab has somebody as good and it will all be sorted out. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: kicked off the list via Office 365?

2018-11-16 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
or Microsoft, the open source movement would not exist. Think about it. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

Re: is the disk failing ?

2018-10-17 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
8, 4:50 PM, "owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov on > behalf of Konstantin Olchanski" > olcha...@triumf.ca> wrote: > > > > > # smartctl -a /dev/sda > > ... > > Device Model: TOSHIBA MG03ACA100 >

Re: is the disk failing ?

2018-10-17 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
icate-2Dhard-2Ddrive-2Dfailures_=DwIBAg=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=G32iZqqMKOiFI0IWyvFtMeiPBUmMGLDfwv-XJICRLMg=WP3knY1XbE8k3rNWhR9RbTdJY8wSqIkutTWHO7cbgZw= K.O. > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:55 PM Konstantin Olchanski >

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