Although CIS compliance (for "security" of assets) may be a requirement,
it is not infallible and often gives a false sense of being secure from
compromises. Example:
n 09, 2023 at 03:26:33PM -0800, Yasha Karant wrote:
The SL6 issue is a different matter. Not only are various
applications vulnerable to compromises from the Internet, but so is
the kernel as well as kernel systems support software.
This is FUD. Which applications, which exploits? AFAIK, there is
The hardware issue with VME not connected to any external (Internet
accessible) network is a fact of life.
The SL6 issue is a different matter. Not only are various applications
vulnerable to compromises from the Internet, but so is the kernel as
well as kernel systems support software. As
o not seem to be discussing this issue. Sorry for the
intrusion.
On 1/4/23 19:14, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 8:34 PM Yasha Karant wrote:
Is anyone on this list using or involved with FORM? Although the
account below is for the popular press, the content is relevant, as is
the
nks to all for the helpful answers and friendly attitude!
Yours,
Glenn
On 12/7/22, 2:11 PM, "owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
<mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov> on behalf of Yasha Karant"
mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fn
Will CERN/Fermilab provide the same level of support to AlmaLinux that
currently is provided for Scientific Linux? Will this list transition
into an AlmaLinux list?
I have looked at the non-vendor lists for non-vendor ports of production
RHEL current (CentOS basically is a vendor port).
At one time we faced a perhaps similar dilemma: hardware with
proprietary software/firmware that would not support then current
security/encryption methods/protocols. The hardware could not be
replaced for two reasons: it was integrated into specific systems that
were in use; the vendor did
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.centos.org_centos-2Dstream_=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=yAaeW4f9xtdQ08yhjVT7qX0S-gAsNpSY7Id7ezyAphLTZ0NKDsy2d7J4TEXPsD9f=jyhYWm05q9jDkTXiroxs-GQK4CsUiTsZppNzv8Z2wsg=
shows
nge
in a control interface -- motor vehicles need a different interface than
a "beast of burden" drawn vehicle, the invention of saddle and stirrups
made major improvements to horse riding (but there a still persons who
use the older technology).
On 8/18/21 03:36, Nico Kadel-Garcia
such backward compatibility (perhaps with a warning message), then SuSE
as well as EL is not backward compatible.
On 8/17/21 8:56 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:21 AM Yasha Karant wrote:
This is a poor design decision on the part of the Linux systems
implementers
ource code sector. Has anyone written a
script that converts "old" into CIFS?
Yasha Karant
On 8/17/21 6:14 AM, Mark Stodola wrote:
On 8/17/21 7:38 AM, Ekkard Gerlach wrote:
Hi,
options gid=users,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 are ignored in SL 6.10:
root@arthur:/home/pc41# /bin/mount
a microscope. Replacing blown fuses is generally
done by electronics technicians and they will not honor the request
to "just jumper it!".
P.P.S. A physics lab is not Boeing with their "only flies down" airplanes
and "what time is now?" space ships.
K.O.
(although I do look for such certifications on the actual
circuit breaker -- accidents are not nice).
On 8/10/21 4:00 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 03:34:00PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote:
One SSD had an internal short and turned into a space heater,
luckily there was no fire. E
One SSD had an internal short and turned into a space heater, luckily
there was no fire. End excerpt.
Clearly, there is very poor safety engineering and/or quality control
(as with certain Li batteries that did similar things in personal
devices being operated by the user). If that SSD had
I have added one previous response to this subject below that from Stack.
The multiple back-up, remote site, and redundant fail-over described
below is of course very desirable and totally infeasible for the
end-user situation. As for backing up to the cloud, the user has a USA
DSL
what she wants.
Regards
Yasha
On 8/8/21 10:19 PM, Andrew Komornicki wrote:
Hi,
Have you considered just doing a tar on the /home directory on a
periodic basis, and just copy the tar file to a backup drive. Simple and
easy.
regards,
Andrew
On 8/8/2021 7:38 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
Apple pr
/8/21 7:32 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 04:09:04PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote:
Assuming that she obtains a, say 1 Tbyte, external USB drive
(powered from the USB port and either mechanical or SSD), she plans
to do incremental backups to the backup drive.
... what ... wo
Please see:
tested,
or know from *RELIABLE* testers to work.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Yasha Karant
Because of vendor update situations and other causes I (and my grad
students) have done what you require more than once.
The easiest approach -- if you have adequate disk space, etc., it to use
Virtual Box (licensed for free) or VMWare (variant depending upon what
you need -- the only one
ckages one wants.
Also, does a bare bones install allow for manual partitioning of a drive
(both "hard" and SSD)?
Yasha Karant
On 6/22/21 4:11 PM, Dave Dykstra wrote:
It worked for me just now to use
download.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/8/BaseOS/x86_64/os
and select a minimal in
intrinsic to the
RHEL 8 from IBM RH.
Yasha Karant
On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow=DwICaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaI
tire drive
including any hard-boot sectors or likewise "reserved" (visible under
gparted or the text terminal equivalent). Say /dev/blah1 was /usr, the
mount for /dev/blah1 to avoid hilarity might be /dev/usbblah1 , and the
like.
On 5/11/21 9:39 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Tu
Before the UUID method was introduced, cloning was not an issue.
This brings up a second issue. Assume that the cloning works using a
hardware cloning device -- that has worked before between different
vendor's physical hard drives of the nominally same capacity or that
worked by cloning a
r any info.
Yasha Karant
that would
correctly install, say, AlmaLinux 8, from the "binary executable" RPMs,
not SRPMs) without the issues that have been described for the current
EL8 production Anaconda.
Am I missing something?
On 5/6/21 7:22 PM, ~Stack~ wrote:
On 5/6/21 7:43 PM, Yasha Karant wr
than Ubuntu LTS major release update.
On 5/6/21 5:15 PM, ~Stack~ wrote:
On 5/6/21 7:02 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:10 PM ~Stack~ wrote:
On 5/6/21 3:21 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
Excerpt from a previous post on this matter:
On Thu, 2021-05-06 at 02:43
Thank you for the "official" announcement and clarification, even
without a final date for a decision.
If I have not misread what is stated below, I take away three major points:
1. The HEP community (typically, transnational collaborations with local
national funding for those groups not
Excerpt from a previous post on this matter:
On Thu, 2021-05-06 at 02:43 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
The misfeatures you've groused about are not due to AlmaLinux, they're
straight RHEL problems. Let's assign blame and credit where they are
due.
End excerpt.
Presumably, Rocky Linux (IBM
Dave,
From the list you reference below, I find
Amazon Web Services
(AWS) is *NOT* a small (market share, startup, etc) for-profit entity.
Is AWS looking at an alternative to licensing IBM RH EL that AWS can use
without any license for fee? AWS has ample internal technical staff to
What you describe -- replacing a distro's utilities by those from other
than the distro -- is done in practice for *SOME* things, as most on
this list do. However, under no condition should this be called a
stable distro, let alone an "enterprise hardened stable" distro, without
the amount of
Thank you for your explicit and detailed observations. I have
observations for Ubuntu LTS -- but with much fewer issues when going
from SL 7 to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and nothing like using a carryover from a
Convex machine. Ubuntu 20.04 LTS respected the non-systems partitions
(such as
these result in a permanent
enforceable consent decree against the company and any of its successors
-- tied to the intellectual property and the derivatives/successors
thereof, not the current owner thereof), the modifications effectively
are syntactically "obsolete".
Yasha Karan
cts (crudely, not revealed if A is built before B, but
revealed if B is built before A).
Yasha Karant
On 5/5/21 3:17 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
On 05.05.21 01:11, Mark Rousell wrote:
On 04/05/2021 23:41, Leon Fauster wrote:
The source are at
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__git.
I fully concur -- a clear statement of a concern about the source and
any authentication/pay-walls limiting access to that source. I assume
that the official rebuilders other than SL have paid the necessary fees
to download the real, actual, production IBM RH EL buildable source as
referenced
The HEP community may have significantly changed since my last
accelerator based research efforts (as part of collaborations).
If by "site-wide", you mean each individual collaborating group,
typically housed at different universities (or equivalent) around the
world, has its own sysadmin and
s, as well as minor release, update production source?
On 5/4/21 1:17 PM, Mark Rousell wrote:
On 04/05/2021 18:01, Yasha Karant wrote:
then one is forced to either Rocky or AlmaLinux, assuming either
pushes out an EL 9 clone as soon as CentOS or other IBM RH buildable
source is released.
Wel
One small point about Princeton, as clearly pointed out to me by the
Institute for Advanced Study (IAS). The Springdale EL distro is NOT from
nor supported by Princeton University -- IAS is a separate entity. It
appears from what I can garner that Springdale is not a project to which
IAS
, Jack Aboutboul wrote:
Yasha,
We have no resistance to a hosting a devel mailing list. The drive to have a
graphical forum was requests from users in the community.
Jack
On May 4, 2021, at 13:01, Yasha Karant wrote:
If I correctly have read the IBH RH EL9 CentOS announcement below, EL 9 will be i
ard list. And, many more "non-systems" comments, much
less of an "engineering" approach than this list.
On 5/4/21 9:46 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
On 04.05.21 17:41, Dave Dykstra wrote:
Yasha,
I'll try to answer as I understand things as an observer.
On Mon, May 03, 2
on the analysis from the Linux Future committee, collaboration
with Fermilab and other HEP communities, as well as the WLCG -decide on
the path forward
End excerpts
Yasha Karant
On 5/3/21 2:14 PM, Dave Dykstra wrote:
Here's a presentation at HEPiX'21 from CERN that's publicly available:
https
Given the use of CentOS 8 stream, I am curious about support and
"hardening". Some of the Fermilab and CERN machines are connected to
the outside Internet (WAN), including (as I recall) some of the
connections between CERN and the various EU, USA, etc., HEP
collaborators (although over VPNs
You state:
If you are just doing it for the money, please go into investing, not
into engineering.
I fully agree. However, in a monetized or equivalent socio-economic
system (e.g., whether it is the neo-liberal USA, nomenklaturist former
USSR, or neo-fascist economy of the current PRC),
Which is the appropriate forum if not one to which engineers and
technologists who develop the technology (often under requirement from
profiteers) do subscribe? Most of the fora upon which these matters are
discussed are not read by the majority of engineers and technologists.
On 4/27/21
s politics.
This is a government list.
*From:* owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
on behalf of Yasha
Karant
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:18 PM
*To:* Mailing list for Scientific Linux users worldwide
*Subject:* Re: [EX
For those of us one this list who are ACM members, I quote:
USB stick. The ISO will avoid
excessive additional downloads
if installing more hosts with virtualbox or vmware
My 5 Cents
Rainer
--
On 4/12/21 5:40 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
Perhaps s
This is not the topic below, but it is a comparison of volunteer
maintained distros to those professionally maintained. My understanding
is that Pat is a Fermilab employed professional whose employment duties
include what one reads below -- not on a fully volunteer basis. This
employed
Perhaps someone can refresh my memory: under old EL, was the mirror
list statically built into the install package, dynamically loaded if an
Internet connection is available, or a mix of these two? I do not
recall having to type long strings such as mirror URLs into the "old"
installs.
For
clone in so far as IBM RH
permits this) will also be "best work".
Take care. Stay safe.
Yasha Karant
On 4/9/21 2:56 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote:
Hi All,
I'm Jack a member of AlmaLinux's dev team and our community manager. Thanks
Lamar for mentioning the release here.
I wanted
--
*From:* owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
on behalf of Gilbert E.
Detillieux
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:19 AM
*To:* Andrew C Aitchison
*Cc:* scientific-linux-users
*Subject:* Re: sudo - was Re: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.
On 2021-04-07 2:11 a.m., Andrew C Aitchison
I support an enduser who had Mint installed by a friend. Installing
Ubuntu LTS current "over" Mint and then the full MATE suite fully
addressed the specific Mint issues you mentioned below. At one time I
had installed SL on that enduser's machine -- however, SL could not
support some of the
source, amongst enterprise production distros, to my naive
understanding, Ubuntu LTS has better prospects than any IBM RHEL clone.
On 4/5/21 7:52 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On 4/3/21 2:57 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
Is IBM RH required under the GPL and Linux licenses to release without
charge the fully buildable
, Yasha Karant wrote:
I have not downloaded (and thus not installed) AL8. From below:
with
> unfortunate issues precisely replicing [replicating?] those of RHEL
installation
> media, such as an absurd number of confusingly distinct software
> channels, and no default mirror list on th
I have not downloaded (and thus not installed) AL8. From below:
with
> unfortunate issues precisely replicing [replicating?] those of RHEL
installation
> media, such as an absurd number of confusingly distinct software
> channels, and no default mirror list on the network bootable media.
>
From:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__almalinux.org_=DwID-g=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=KU_K6Bb6uJskkQm0ARvjm17xkYDdWaB3_FkejuJOG48=0dJ5TofplnmjW7jomirkBqLAnePLrd6g4rgnOAamFZw=
As a standalone, completely free
You state:
That has nothing to do with Linux and Red Hat. I do not know
why you bring it up.
End excerpt.
I respectfully disagree in so far as the issue concerns the future of
whatever Linux (or other environment) that Fermilab/CERN and the
"official" collaborations thereof use, and the HEP
do not know
why you bring it up. And you did not get it completely
right, either. In Physics, we do not have to sign legal NDAs
to participate in experiments and projects. It is basically
an honor system, and everybody plays by the rules
and/or breaks the rules per basic human nature. Books hav
Most HEP (and sometimes other) "academic" collaborations have
collaboration agreements for all member institutions (or groups or
individuals) that no work done by the collaboration may be published or
discussed without permission from the collaboration, typically a set of
PIs (often not a
. Your observations on RHEL
indicate that except for those who license RHEL for fee with an IBM RH
support contract, RHEL is not an viable stable long-term (nor immediate)
alternative.
On 3/5/21 1:09 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 06:27:07PM -0800, Yasha Karant wrote
Has anyone tried the Institute for Advanced Study Springdale (IAS) EL 8
distro? Is this in fact a complete distro that uses Epel and ElRepo as
did SL? Does it install and boot as did SL? Supposedly, Springdale can
replace SL, although unlike SL that was "supported" by professional
employed
I have experienced similar issues with "no name" hardware, that permits
an attempt at what constitutes "real".
1. If there are standards (e.g.,
A question:
Are there applications that use the affected glibc version and were used
for mission-critical (or possibly life endangering) calculations? If
so, all of the results of such calculations (including any done at
Fermilab, CERN, or HEP for data analysis, detector calibration and
olutions to
pressing problems. You obviously do not have a day job that requires
your attention and are filling up peoples in boxes with your personal
banter.
regards,
Andrew
On 2/5/2021 2:55 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On Feb 5, 2021 5:48 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
For the time being --
7), making some important applications no
longer deployable at the current production release of the application
(as I experienced with TeXstudio).
On 2/5/21 2:17 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On 2/5/21 3:59 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
I respectfully disagree. There is *NO* RPM EL that does not originate
w
I respectfully disagree. There is *NO* RPM EL that does not originate
with a corporate for-profit overlord -- CentOS and Rocky both are ports
of the IBM RH source distro (required under GPL and Linux licenses -- if
a corporate overload violates the GPL or Linux licenses, I suspect that
any
From below:
If you like the RH user interface, just get the gnome-session-flashback
package. It's a slightly updated gnome-2 environment.
End excerpt.
Ubuntu has many window management user interfaces. If one likes Gnome
2, also consider MATE that is available and works under LTS (the
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DVD
i386x86_64
Several comments as a long term RedHat production (pre-Fedora) and then
EL user -- on laptops, on workstations (including workstations for
scientific visualisation), and on compute and storage server "farms".
1. Ubuntu LTS serves essentially the same sector as EL, including SL
with some
There are several issues with IBM RHEL clones, ultimately controlled by
what is termed the Nazgul below (presumably a reference to the fictional
entities:
Without adding too much additional traffic, the ability to go down
levels with things such as NFS "off" but otherwise maintain the running
image (and other state variable values), one could isolate and possibly
identify problems -- without throwing an exception except from any
additional
NoFbM=j-TpFtU9McdZJqdDt-EGcxZXiU6sIaF-ekykdkaEZPg=
>
On 25/01/2021 18:04, Yasha Karant wrote:
SystemD as it currently stands is too delicate and too
vulnerable to compromise, either within itself or in terms of the
processes/subsystems it "controls", despite the large scale deployment
update environment, not SystemD), the consequences will affect more than
just the community of SL.
On 1/25/21 10:05 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On 1/25/21 12:04 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
The question is: what mechanism? The reality today for Linux systems
as deployed at scale mostly is Sys
Everything stated below is "correct", historically as well as for the
immediate for-profit concerns of the vendors (such as IBM RH or
Canonical). The issues with both the (old,"deceased", pre-RBOC) ATT or
the BSD boot, startup, etc., mechanisms are primarily that these were
designed for a
Two items of possible interest on OpenRC, with a relevant excerpt therefrom:
Mark Rousell's commentary is accurate and to the point. As for "better
ones" and the lack of competitor systems being "widely adopted" is far
more a for-profit business decision than a decision based upon the
abstract software engineering and performance merits of the situation.
Despite the
n the
"hodgepodge" of what seem to many as arbitrary and capricious
incantations? These questions are not posed as divisive or derisive,
but instead requesting information.
On 1/23/21 4:41 PM, ~Stack~ wrote:
On 1/22/21 8:20 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
I had not heard the hist
From what I recall of the discussions leading up to SystemD in the
general deployment that seems to be the current reality, one reason was
to not only use "concurrency" at boot, but to standardise across distros
and thus simplify use in "operating systems as a service" in "cloud
computing".
In response to a query concerning Ubuntu LTS:
Neither AskUbuntu nor Ubuntuforums is "monitored by Canonical employed
professionals". This is community support. We are volunteers. If you
want to talk to Canonical-employed engineers, you must pay for Ubuntu
Advantage.
End excerpt.
Although
on, to me this is not the same as the Tomasulo
algorithm and reservation stations that are now commonplace on many
general purpose CPU architectures and that met (and meets) a real need.
On 1/22/21 5:20 PM, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 4:01 PM Yasha Karant <
My understanding is that only SuSE, Red Hat, and Ubuntu produce open
systems ("free to port" with attribution and removal of copyrighted logo
intellectual property) "enterprise" distros -- and all of these in
current production release use SystemD, etc., baggage. Was Torvalds
behind SystemD,
NB: "We" below refers to the Arstechnica persons. The solution below
seems to be at no cost, but will not address a university, CERN,
Fermilab, etc., multiple copy deployment as this exceeds the IBM RH "no
fee" limit. Presumably there is some mechanism to prevent no fee use of
the
such as Heaviside could not be
allowed to join the Faculty, and definitely not the tenure-stream
Faculty. My university looks at the bar-code, as it were, not the
actual contents.
On 12/31/20 4:42 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 2:19 PM Yasha Karant wrote:
I fully agree
tinue to support
porting needed drivers and utilities to EL 8, 9, ... , and thus Rocky EL.
On 12/31/20 7:21 AM, Jon Pruente wrote:
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:06 PM Yasha Karant <mailto:ykar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Beef: Slang. a complaint.
an argument or dispute.
AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On 12/31/20 12:05 AM, Yasha Karant wrote:
... It is difficult, but not impossible, to have a distro that does
not have computer science and engineering professionals ... doing the
implementation that is suitable for "hardened" production use,
including converting a
ct for that matter) is not a complaint, but simply proper
engineering. Actual binary executables are constructed through
engineering and technology.
On 12/30/20 8:08 AM, Jon Pruente wrote:
On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 6:51 PM Yasha Karant <mailto:ykar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thus, unl
Unlock messages prior to December 20th in The Next Generation of High
Performance Computing Community
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than just the 10,000 most recent, upgrade to one of our paid plans.
The above is the message upon reading the current
There has been some discussion of the differences between the RPM and
DEB philosophies, in particular Ubuntu LTS and RHEL derivatives such as
the soon to be defunct SL without clear replacement (hopes for RockyEL
that probably will not have the sort of support the HEP community
through
I replied off-list on this topic, with similar thoughts as to what is
stated below. There are numerous issues, particularly with
non-professional software applications not designed for "broadcast" use
in addition to the physics and implemented technological limitations
discussed below. Any
I agree. However, when I examine the log of which packages were
replaced (I mean that the files associated with major release N were
fully replaced by those of major release N+1 -- however, log and end
user configuration were retained, such as the list of users, passwords,
etc.), I find that
To the best of my understanding, both Fedora and the coming CentOS are
beta (development/testing) environments, not stable production
environments, as is non-LTS Ubuntu. I know of many people who use Fedora
-- and more than once had bad experiences because of a software defect.
This is much
files of various types (e.g., TeXstudio)
than does SL, mostly because of SL using an older c/c++ library that
also is used by SL ("kernel") and thus not easy (nor safe) to change.
Take care. Stay safe.
Yasha Karant
I do not currently have the time or inclination to address the various
points raised in the exchange/commentary, to which I am adding some
comments, in sufficient detail.
UC CSRG BSD original deployment largely evolved for DEC hardware
platforms, such as the PDP-11 (with segmented overlay
Re: Update from Rocky EL
On 12/16/20 9:55 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
... The question I raised still needs to be addressed: will Rocky EL
be done by paid professionals (as with SL or Springdale Princeton EL)
or will it be done by volunteers, some (many) of whom are "amateurs"?
I am very
same sort of information as the current SL users list?
Yasha Karant
On 12/17/20 8:07 AM, Takashi Ichihara wrote:
URL:
CentOS 8 Linux@CERN
https://linux.web.cern.ch/centos8/
Regrds,
Takashi
On 2020/12/18 0:17, James F Amundson wrote:
CERN and Fermilab acknowledge the recent decision to shift
el you envision to
be "paid" developers. Full time? "Gig"? From where do you envision
the pay to come? With proper benefits (not required in those
nation-states that have social services and benefits for all)?
Take care. Stay safe.
Yasha Karant
On 12/17/20 8:04 AM
, and a compensated professional
staff behind the distro (as observed many times on this SL list).
On 12/16/20 6:17 PM, Vinícius Ferrão wrote:
Hi Yasha, link seems to be broken.
It points to a Google Docs document that’s unavailable.
On 16 Dec 2020, at 20:27, Yasha Karant wrote:
I do n
cky EL executables as supplied? Or
will the HEP community do internal evaluation and testing before
deployment, keeping a working distro separate from the vagaries of what
may (NOTE: *MAY*, not will) be an amateur volunteer distro?
Take care. Stay safe.
Yasha Karant
gmk December 16th at 1
I have a file with extension .tnt . This is a file that is used by an
appropriate viewer to produce a "3d image" on a 2D screen without
augmentation (goggles, etc.). Is there either a viewer that can render
tnt files, or a converter that will convert a tnt file to a more common
3d image file
As I recall, what you state below is similar in sentiment to response/s
when I noted the "same" comment concerning Princeton EL in the past. I
take it from your response no one in the larger EL community (including
HPC/HTC) shares the Princeton "sentiment" and that there is no "basis in
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