Re: [Servercert-wg] Participation Proposal for Revised SCWG Charter

2023-07-24 Thread Roman Fischer via Servercert-wg
Dear Ben, As stated before, I’m against minimal attendance (or even participation – however you would measure that, numbers of words spoken or written?) requirements. I’ve seen in university, in private associations, policitcs… that this simply doesn’t solve the problem. I totally agree with

Re: [Servercert-wg] Participation Proposal for Revised SCWG Charter

2023-07-24 Thread Ben Wilson via Servercert-wg
Tim, One problem we're trying to address is the potential for a great number of “submarine voters”. Such members may remain inactive for extended periods of time and then surface only to vote for or against something they suddenly are urged to support or oppose, without being aware of the

Re: [Servercert-wg] Participation Proposal for Revised SCWG Charter

2023-07-24 Thread Tim Hollebeek via Servercert-wg
What is your argument in response to the point that any potential bad actors will be trivially able to satisfy the participation metrics? I’m very worried we’ll end up doing a lot of management and tracking work, without actually solving the problem. -Tim From: Ben Wilson Sent: Monday, July

Re: [Servercert-wg] Participation Proposal for Revised SCWG Charter

2023-07-24 Thread Ben Wilson via Servercert-wg
All, I have thought a lot about this, including various other formulas (e.g. market share) to come up with something reasonable, but I've come back to attendance as the key metric that we need to focus on. I just think that an attendance metric provides the only workable, measurable, and sound