Re: [sidr] GOST SIDR

2009-04-16 Thread Sean Turner
Randy Bush wrote: And is there any reason why algorithm agility won't just work? how do you capability negotiate with a cert? i understand how to do it with a protocol peer, but not a static object. not that i think your desire is bad, i just don't see how to get there from here. i

Re: [sidr] second algorithm and transition process

2010-03-11 Thread Sean Turner
I'd be willing to help. spt Stephen Kent wrote: Sandy, I will be happy to work on both drafts, assuming others volunteer :-). Steve ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr

[sidr] Question about draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-algs migration text

2010-06-14 Thread Sean Turner
Geoff, In the rpki-algs document there's a note in section 3 that talks about algorithm agility. Part of it copied below: The alternate approach, of allowing multiple signature algorithms in the RPKI certificate profile, and in the specification of CMS signatures as used in manifests, ROAS,

Re: [sidr] key rollover and algorithm migration

2010-06-15 Thread Sean Turner
Rob Austein wrote: I need to read this thread a couple more times before I'll be sure I really understand all the questions Steve is asking, but one particular paragraph leapt out at me: At Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:08:23 -0400, Steve Kent wrote: ... One implication of this initial design is that

Re: [sidr] key rollover and algorithm migration

2010-06-15 Thread Sean Turner
can't be explained and it's causing problems for key rollover, then maybe we should drop the checks. spt Dave On 06/15/2010 03:14 PM, Sean Turner wrote: Did you see something in Section 6.1 of RFC 5280 that made you think AIA should be used during path validation? If you use the id-caIssuers

[sidr] Comments on draft-archi-rpki-signed-object

2010-09-20 Thread Sean Turner
I think this draft is in very good shape. Here are my (mostly minor) comments on this I-D. IMHO this draft is good to go after incorporating these changes. spt -- 1) Abstract: r/the Resource Public Key Infrastructure/the Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) 2) Sec 1, 1st para:

Re: [sidr] I-D Action:draft-ietf-sidr-signed-object-00.txt

2010-09-28 Thread Sean Turner
This version addressed my comments. Thanks! spt internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : Signed Object

Re: [sidr] Template for RPKI signed objects and revised ROA format [now with attachments!]

2010-09-28 Thread Sean Turner
I really like the way the -roa draft works with the -signed-objects draft. The -roa draft just points to the -signed-objects and says what you have to do in addition. I really think this is the way to go for this draft and the -manifest draft. One thing I noted about the -roa draft is that

Re: [sidr] I-D Action:draft-ietf-sidr-cp-13.txt

2010-09-30 Thread Sean Turner
This addresses all of my CP concerns/comments. Thanks, spt internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title :

Re: [sidr] I-D Action:draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-algs-03.txt

2010-10-12 Thread Sean Turner
I think this version looks great with one exception. I believe the last paragraph in Section 5 (repeated below for convenience) should be deleted: In anticipation of a potential need to transition to stronger cryptographic algorithms in the future, CAs and RPs SHOULD be able to generate

Re: [sidr] I-D Action:draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-algs-03.txt

2010-10-13 Thread Sean Turner
because the algorithm and key format are identical to 2048-bit RSA modulo the size of the fields. (or something like that) spt Dave On 10/12/2010 02:06 PM, Sean Turner wrote: I think this version looks great with one exception. I believe the last paragraph in Section 5 (repeated below

Re: [sidr] WG LC for draft-ietf-sidr-signed-object-01

2010-11-07 Thread Sean Turner
11/6/2010 4:11 AM, Sandra Murphy wrote: The authors of draft-ietf-sidr-signed-object-01 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-signed-object-01) have requested a working group last call. The chairs ask the working group to consider this draft and decide if it is worthy of publication.

Re: [sidr] WG LC for draft-ietf-sidr-signed-object-01

2010-11-07 Thread Sean Turner
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, Sandra Murphy wrote: The authors of draft-ietf-sidr-signed-object-01 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-signed-object-01) have requested a working group last call. The chairs ask the working group to consider this draft and decide if it is worthy of publication.

Re: [sidr] WG LC for draft-ietf-sidr-ta-05

2010-11-08 Thread Sean Turner
On 11/6/2010 4:15 AM, Sandra Murphy wrote: On 14 September, Chris Morrow, with wg fedora on, said of draft-ietf-sidr-ta-04: Unless there are complaints about this, please get a last rev in before Bejing so it can start LC just before the meeting. The authors have submitted a new version

Re: [sidr] I-D Action:draft-ietf-sidr-roa-format-09.txt

2010-11-09 Thread Sean Turner
On 11/9/2010 2:00 PM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Profile for Route Origin Authorizations

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-roa-format-09

2010-12-01 Thread Sean Turner
Sandy, I'd support moving this draft forward once an ASN.1 module is added in an appendix (like the manifest draft). spt On 11/17/10 11:55 PM, Sandra Murphy wrote: Matt Lepinski has requested a WG LC for draft A Profile for Route Origin Authorizations (ROAs). The document and the draft

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-res-certs-20

2010-12-01 Thread Sean Turner
Sandy, I hate to hold this document up for this, but the example in Appendix B shows two AKI extensions in the CRL. Shouldn't there be only one (ala the highlander)?. spt On 11/17/10 11:56 PM, Sandra Murphy wrote: Geoff Huston has requested a WG LC for draft A Profile for X.509 PKIX

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-algs-04

2010-12-01 Thread Sean Turner
Sandy, I support progressing this document. spt On 11/17/10 11:58 PM, Sandra Murphy wrote: Geoff Huston has requested a WG LC for draft A Profile for Algorithms and Key Sizes for use in the Resource Public Key Infrastructure. The document and the draft version history are available at

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-manifests-09

2010-12-01 Thread Sean Turner
Sandy, I support progressing this draft. spt On 11/17/10 11:59 PM, Sandra Murphy wrote: Geoff Huston has requested a WG LC for draft Manifests for the Resource Public Key Infrastructure. The document and the draft version history are available at

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-keyroll-04

2010-12-01 Thread Sean Turner
Sandy, My only reservation with this document before I support progressing it is the following from section 4.2: When a key rollover occurs, the EE certificate for the RPKI signed object MUST be re-issued, under the key of the NEW CA. A CA MAY choose to treat this EE certificate the same

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-res-certs-20

2010-12-01 Thread Sean Turner
): q66IrWSGuBE7jqx8PAUHAlHCqRw can we do this as part of the wrap up of the last call rather than a new round? Geoff On 01/12/2010, at 10:50 PM, Sean Turner wrote: Sandy, I hate to hold this document up for this, but the example in Appendix B shows two AKI extensions in the CRL. Shouldn't

Re: [sidr] I-D Action:draft-ietf-sidr-res-certs-21.txt

2010-12-02 Thread Sean Turner
I now fully support progressing this draft. spt On 12/2/10 2:00 PM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title

[sidr] WGLC comments: draft-sidr-iana-objects-00.txt

2011-02-10 Thread Sean Turner
Lots of hats in this WG... With my nit-noid checker hat on ;) - Should this be a BCP or standards track? - Expand RPKI in abstract and introduction - Sec 2: r/description od/description of - Sec 3: r/, [I-D.ietf-sidr-rpki-manifests]./ , and [I-D.ietf-sidr-rpki-manifests]. - Add

Re: [sidr] WGLC comments: draft-sidr-iana-objects-00.txt

2011-02-11 Thread Sean Turner
On 2/10/11 9:14 PM, Terry Manderson wrote: Hi Sean, Thank you for your careful review. Purely selfish on my part ;) Turns out to be less email now rather than later. On 11/02/11 11:31 AM, Sean Turnerturn...@ieca.com wrote: Lots of hats in this WG... With my nit-noid checker hat on ;)

Re: [sidr] IANA considerations for repos-struct draft

2011-02-16 Thread Sean Turner
Hi, .cer and .crl are already defined in RFC 2585 as part of the application/pkix-cert and application/pkix-crl registrations. Can we just point there? Do we need media type registrations for application/sidr-manifest and application/sidr-roa? spt On 2/16/11 7:16 PM, Geoff Huston wrote:

Re: [sidr] Last Call: draft-ietf-sidr-arch-11.txt (An Infrastructure to

2011-02-21 Thread Sean Turner
On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: (not speaking for the authors, just observing some... also not speaking as a co-chair) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com wrote: I find this I-D problematic. The subject matter is

Re: [sidr] I-D Action:draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct-07.txt

2011-03-10 Thread Sean Turner
Hi, I think this draft needs media type registrations for .mft and .roa. .cer and .crl are already in RFC 2585. I think it needs media type registration because every other draft I've ever seen that specifies a file extension does so. RFC 2585 specifies .cer and .crl and they're in a media

Re: [sidr] I-D Action:draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct-07.txt

2011-03-14 Thread Sean Turner
whether you think a new version is needed before requesting publication. --Sandy On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Sean Turner wrote: Hi, I think this draft needs media type registrations for .mft and .roa. .cer and .crl are already in RFC 2585. I think it needs media type registration because every other

Re: [sidr] WG LC for draft-ietf-sidr-ghostbusters-06.txt

2011-07-14 Thread Sean Turner
I've read this document and support moving it forward. Make sure to ask Stewart to send an email to the mailing list ietf-ty...@ietf.org asking for comments on the Media Type section of your specification. spt On 7/13/11 7:35 PM, Sandra Murphy wrote: The chairs have received a request

Re: [sidr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility-03.txt

2011-08-04 Thread Sean Turner
On 8/3/11 8:43 PM, Randy Bush wrote: The intention was to focus on the use case for the proposed changes (BGPSEC certs). what is a BGPSEC cert? What Mark and I are currently proposing in draft-turner-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles is that a BGPSEC certificate is a special purpose Resource

Re: [sidr] adopt a mib

2011-08-05 Thread Sean Turner
I support both too. spt On 8/4/11 7:38 PM, Roque Gagliano wrote: I support adoption of both documents with one comment: On draft-ymbk-bgp-origin-validation-mib, I would not use the word ROATable. The router does not interact with ROAs and I believe it is confusing. In

Re: [sidr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility-03.txt

2011-08-05 Thread Sean Turner
On 8/5/11 2:11 PM, Sandra Murphy wrote: On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Sean Turner wrote: On 8/3/11 8:43 PM, Randy Bush wrote: The intention was to focus on the use case for the proposed changes (BGPSEC certs). what is a BGPSEC cert? What Mark and I are currently proposing in draft-turner-sidr

Re: [sidr] support for draft-turner-sidr-bgpsec-algs and draft-turner-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles

2011-10-24 Thread Sean Turner
Sandy, I just submitted these drafts to the repository. spt On 10/21/11 8:24 PM, Sandra Murphy wrote: There has been much more retro-support for these two drafts than there was during in the wglc timeframe. I suppose it just escaped everyone's attention. There is now sufficient support for

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-00.txt

2011-10-24 Thread Sean Turner
, Key Formats,amp; Signature Formats Author(s) : Sean Turner Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-00.txt Pages : 7 Date: 2011-10-24 This document specifies the algorithms, algorithms#39; parameters, asymmetric key formats

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-00.txt

2011-10-24 Thread Sean Turner
Certificates, Certificate Revocation Lists, and Certification Requests Author(s) : Mark Reynolds Sean Turner Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-00.txt Pages : 10 Date: 2011-10-24 This document

[sidr] comments on BGPSEC PKI and Alg profiles

2011-11-17 Thread Sean Turner
So I ran through my presentation at a million miles an hour, but I did get some comments. Here's what I think we ought to do to resolve them: - From Russ H.: just use cn don't use cn + sn in subject. Rob A. went and looked at the existing RPKI certs. cn+sn is used so we're going to leave

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-01.txt

2011-12-05 Thread Sean Turner
Sean Turner Steve Kent Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-01.txt Pages : 11 Date: 2011-12-05 This document defines a standard profile for X.509 certificates for the purposes of supporting

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-01.txt

2011-12-05 Thread Sean Turner
. Title : BGP Algorithms, Key Formats, Signature Formats Author(s) : Sean Turner Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-01.txt Pages : 7 Date: 2011-12-05 This document specifies the algorithms, algorithms

Re: [sidr] WG adoption call for draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl-01.txt

2012-01-26 Thread Sean Turner
On 1/20/12 7:19 PM, Murphy, Sandra wrote: The working group has been requested to adopt draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl-01.txt as a working group draft. The draft is available at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl. Please respond to the list to say whether you accept this draft as a

Re: [sidr] wg adoption call for draft-ymbk-bgpsec-rtr-rekeying-00.txt

2012-03-12 Thread Sean Turner
-rtr-rekeying-00.txt A new version of I-D, draft-ymbk-bgpsec-rtr-rekeying-00.txt has been succes= sfully submitted by Sean Turner and posted to the IETF repository. Filename:draft-ymbk-bgpsec-rtr-rekeying Revision:00 Title: Router Keying for BGPsec Creation date: 2012

Re: [sidr] Interim Meeting Dates/Locations (Proposed)

2012-03-26 Thread Sean Turner
On #3, I really like the idea of having interim meetings close to events that are essentially operator-centric meetings. If this WG is in fact going to have protocols/boxes deployed/run by operator folk, it'd be really good to make it easy as possible for them to attend. I know some attend

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-01.txt

2012-03-28 Thread Sean Turner
: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : BGP Algorithms, Key Formats, Signature Formats Author(s) : Sean Turner

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-01.txt

2012-03-28 Thread Sean Turner
Router Certificates, Certificate Revocation Lists, and Certification Requests Author(s) : Mark Reynolds Sean Turner Steve Kent Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-01.txt Pages : 11

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-01.txt

2012-04-13 Thread Sean Turner
from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Profile for BGPSEC Router Certificates, Certificate Revocation Lists, and Certification Requests Author(s) : Mark Reynolds Sean Turner Steve Kent

Re: [sidr] WG Adoption call for draft-rogaglia-sidr-bgpsec-rollover-01.txt

2012-07-02 Thread Sean Turner
On 7/2/12 6:37 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: On Jun 28, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Murphy, Sandra wrote: There were only two responses to this call for adoption. Both were positive (and one was followed by extensive comments), but that's a pretty low indication of wg interest. On the chance that people

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles

2012-07-10 Thread Sean Turner
) : Mark Reynolds Sean Turner Steve Kent Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-03.txt Pages : 11 Date: 2012-04-13 This document defines a standard profile for X.509 certificates

Re: [sidr] Meetecho session recording available

2012-10-01 Thread Sean Turner
I watched/listened the meetecho recording through the HTML5 link. Pretty cool. Looking forward to the here's what I'm going to do as a result of the meeting email from Matt. BTW on 2.1 - my bad about forgetting that sending the NOTIFICATION message ends the sessions. Consider the comment

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-04.txt

2012-10-15 Thread Sean Turner
, and Certification Requests Author(s) : Mark Reynolds Sean Turner Steve Kent Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-04.txt Pages : 12 Date: 2012-10-15 Abstract: This document

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-protocol-mib-03.txt

2012-11-28 Thread Sean Turner
The MIB doctors approved a change to MIB security considerations: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mib-doctors/current/msg01369.html change here: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mib-doctors/current/msg01368.html Need to make the following change in the security considerations: OLD

Re: [sidr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-newton-sidr-policy-qualifiers-00.txt

2012-12-05 Thread Sean Turner
Andy, A couple of comments: 1) I'm hoping to constrain the type and number of qualifiers that can be included. 5280 defines two types: cps (for certificate practice statements) and unotice (to display info to relying parties when the certificate is used). I'm hoping you just want the cps

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-cps (end 2013-03-07 - Mar 07, 2013)

2013-02-28 Thread Sean Turner
Below are some comments on the draft. I also submitted my nits to the editors. 0) Based on the assumption that draft-newton-sidr-policy-qualifiers will be adopted because that's what the RIRs want should s1.2 or 1.5 also include some information about where it can be found? This information

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-cps (end 2013-03-07 - Mar 07, 2013)

2013-03-04 Thread Sean Turner
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Sean Turner turn...@ieca.com wrote: Below are some comments on the draft. I also submitted my nits to the editors. 0) Based on the assumption that draft-newton-sidr-policy-qualifiers will be adopted because that's what the RIRs want should s1.2 or 1.5 also include some

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-01.txt

2013-03-10 Thread Sean Turner
Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-01.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : Router Keying for BGPsec Author(s) : Sean

Re: [sidr] draft-newton-sidr-policy-qualifiers-01

2013-03-11 Thread Sean Turner
+1 spt On 3/11/13 9:56 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: I support WG adoption of this draft. ~Carlos On 3/11/13 9:54 AM, Andy Newton wrote: On 3/11/13 9:48 AM, Matthew Lepinski mlepinski.i...@gmail.com wrote: This seems like quite a reasonable document, and I do not anticipate that it would

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-04.txt

2013-03-26 Thread Sean Turner
Working Group of the IETF. Title : BGP Algorithms, Key Formats, Signature Formats Author(s) : Sean Turner Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-04.txt Pages : 7 Date: 2013-03-26 Abstract: This document

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-05.txt

2013-04-18 Thread Sean Turner
. Title : A Profile for BGPSEC Router Certificates, Certificate Revocation Lists, and Certification Requests Author(s) : Mark Reynolds Sean Turner Steve Kent Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-05

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-02.txt

2013-09-12 Thread Sean Turner
Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : Router Keying for BGPsec Author(s) : Sean Turner Keyur Patel Randy Bush Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-02.txt Pages : 9

Re: [sidr] BGPSEC Algorithms document missing a clear reference?

2014-03-27 Thread Sean Turner
New version should be posted soon addressing this and some other reference updaets. spt On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:56, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Stephen Kent k...@bbn.com wrote: Chris, It was pointed out in passing (hallway/table

[sidr] comments: draft-ietf-sidr-rfc6485bis-00.txt

2014-03-27 Thread Sean Turner
I think this one is ready for wglc ;) nits that can be fixed whenever: s6: r/and [RFC6487] a apply to certificate and CRLs /and [RFC6487] apply to certificates and CRLs s8: Maybe consider just renaming s8 to “Changes since RFC 6485” and striking: [Remove before publication. Dear IESG,

Re: [sidr] Conflict between rtr-keying, bgpsec-pki-profile, and RFC 6487

2014-04-04 Thread Sean Turner
On Feb 24, 2014, at 11:41, Stephen Kent k...@bbn.com wrote: Rob, Good catch. Obscure little conflict that only an implementor would notice: there's a three-way conflict between the current rtr-keying draft, the current bgpsec-pki-profile draft, and the base RPKI certificate profile RFC.

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-05.txt

2014-04-29 Thread Sean Turner
: Sean Turner Keyur Patel Randy Bush Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-05.txt Pages : 10 Date: 2014-04-29 Abstract: BGPsec-speaking routers are provisioned with private keys to sign

Re: [sidr] Conflict between rtr-keying, bgpsec-pki-profile, and RFC 6487

2014-05-12 Thread Sean Turner
On Apr 04, 2014, at 15:47, Geoff Huston g...@apnic.net wrote: The authors of RFC 6487 can speak for themselves, but I think their intent was to avoid requests for vanity names (CN=Joe's Pizza instead of CN=4DF2D88957372FF9FDA05C70F2D9E8BA334CFF89), which could be construed as eroding claims

Re: [sidr] Conflict between rtr-keying, bgpsec-pki-profile, and RFC 6487

2014-05-12 Thread Sean Turner
On May 12, 2014, at 16:03, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: Would it make sense to have the name that goes in the router certificate then be something like “ROUTER-#-32_bit_BGP_Identifier” where the # gets incremented everytime there’s a new key? For those that love hard coded lengths this

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-05.txt

2014-05-12 Thread Sean Turner
private keys or not, but I’m not sure if there are additional considerations that need to be discussed. Thanks, Wes On 4/29/14, 10:14 AM, Sean Turner turn...@ieca.com wrote: Hi, This version includes a new section 4 that addresses key management (i.e., keep a timer to make sure

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-05.txt

2014-05-20 Thread Sean Turner
On May 13, 2014, at 12:23, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: Though I’m not sure that there is a huge distinction between disabling BGPSec and taking the router offline since disabling BGPSec would trigger neighbor session resets for capability renegotiation unless we’ve specified otherwise in

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-06.txt

2014-05-20 Thread Sean Turner
is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : Router Keying for BGPsec Authors : Sean Turner Keyur Patel

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-07.txt

2014-05-23 Thread Sean Turner
. Title : Router Keying for BGPsec Authors : Sean Turner Keyur Patel Randy Bush Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-07.txt Pages : 11 Date: 2014-05-23 Abstract

Re: [sidr] EST (was Re: about the thread Conflict between rtr-keying, bgpsec-pki-profile, and RFC 6487)

2014-07-02 Thread Sean Turner
On Jul 02, 2014, at 10:00, Stephen Kent k...@bbn.com wrote: Rob, At Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:27:03 -0400, Stephen Kent wrote: I did suggest we might use other cert request mechanisms. EST is the obvious, current, standards-based option for this, if folks want to consider alternatives to

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-07.txt

2014-07-02 Thread Sean Turner
wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : BGP Algorithms, Key Formats, Signature Formats Author : Sean Turner

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-07.txt

2014-07-02 Thread Sean Turner
And then I just noticed the section #ing is not sequential :( Stay tuned for another version. spt On Jul 02, 2014, at 11:36, Sean Turner turn...@ieca.com wrote: A minor update to move some references that were in the wrong place as well as to correctly identify where the OID goes

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-07.txt

2014-07-07 Thread Sean Turner
On Jul 07, 2014, at 19:42, Sandra Murphy sa...@tislabs.com wrote: On Jul 7, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Geoff Huston g...@apnic.net wrote: the header of draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-08 says: Updates: 6485 (if approved) so I'm still confused about the two 6485 update drafts. Ah. So

Re: [sidr] New version draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol

2014-07-07 Thread Sean Turner
WRT integrating the two specs … whatever is easier. spt On Jul 07, 2014, at 13:06, Matthew Lepinski mlepinski.i...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, one other thing: If anyone on this list thinks that instead of referencing as-migration, that we are better off merging as-migration into

[sidr] drafts on github

2014-07-18 Thread Sean Turner
All, I put my working copies of draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles and draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs up on github: https://github.com/seanturner/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles https://github.com/seanturner/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs spt ___ sidr

Re: [sidr] EST (was Re: about the thread Conflict between rtr-keying, bgpsec-pki-profile, and RFC 6487)

2014-07-30 Thread Sean Turner
On Jul 02, 2014, at 11:16, Sean Turner turn...@ieca.com wrote: On Jul 02, 2014, at 10:00, Stephen Kent k...@bbn.com wrote: Rob, At Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:27:03 -0400, Stephen Kent wrote: I did suggest we might use other cert request mechanisms. EST is the obvious, current, standards-based

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-08.txt

2014-08-12 Thread Sean Turner
Authors : Mark Reynolds Sean Turner Steve Kent Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-08.txt Pages : 13 Date: 2014-08-12 Abstract: This document defines a standard

Re: [sidr] WGLC on draft-ietf-sidr-rfc6490-bis-01.txt

2014-10-06 Thread Sean Turner
I’ve read this draft and support it progressing. One minor comment: It would be nice if there was a short summary of the differences between this version and RFC 6490. Maybe a new section 1.2 titled differences between this version and RFC 6490: This document obsoletes RFC 6490 by adding

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-08.txt

2014-10-07 Thread Sean Turner
AS. or something like that? spt --Sandy, speaking as regular ol' member On Aug 12, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Sean Turner turn...@ieca.com wrote: This version incorporates the change discussed at IETF 90 - namely include one and only one AS in the certificate. The working version is also available

Re: [sidr] RFC 6487 possible oversight

2014-10-08 Thread Sean Turner
On Oct 08, 2014, at 09:50, Andreas Reuter andreas.rou...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I came across a (possible) oversight in RFC 6487, Section 4.4 about the issuer field: An issuer name MUST contain one instance of the CommonName attribute and MAY contain one instance of the

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-08.txt

2014-10-30 Thread Sean Turner
On Oct 08, 2014, at 02:48, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: Yep the issuer always gets to determine the subject name as per RFC 6487 s4.5 so how about we just leave that bit out and make that sentence a note: Note that more than one certificate can be issued to an AS (i.e., more than one

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-09.txt

2014-11-10 Thread Sean Turner
Sean Turner Steve Kent Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-09.txt Pages : 13 Date: 2014-11-10 Abstract: This document defines a standard profile for X.509 certificates for the purposes

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-09.txt

2015-01-21 Thread Sean Turner
: BGP Algorithms, Key Formats, Signature Formats Author : Sean Turner Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-09.txt Pages : 7 Date: 2015-01-21 Abstract: This document specifies the algorithms, algorithms' parameters

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-10.txt

2015-01-21 Thread Sean Turner
: A Profile for BGPSEC Router Certificates, Certificate Revocation Lists, and Certification Requests Authors : Mark Reynolds Sean Turner Steve Kent Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-10.txt

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-08.txt

2015-01-21 Thread Sean Turner
: Router Keying for BGPsec Authors : Sean Turner Keyur Patel Randy Bush Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-08.txt Pages : 11 Date: 2015-01-21 Abstract: BGPsec-speaking routers

Re: [sidr] New Version Notification for draft-rhansen-sidr-rfc6487bis-00.txt

2015-03-19 Thread Sean Turner
On Mar 09, 2015, at 21:07, Richard Hansen rhan...@bbn.com wrote: Hi all, I have submitted a bis of RFC6487 as a -00 individual submission, and will be presenting it in Dallas. It's a minor change from RFC6487. Changes incorporated: * all 3 verified errata Faithfully includes the

Re: [sidr] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC6485 (4340)

2015-04-21 Thread Sean Turner
On Apr 21, 2015, at 13:23, Richard Hansen rhan...@bbn.com wrote: On 2015-04-21 02:24, Geoff Huston wrote: I am trying very hard to understand why or how such a change affects interoperability of running code that is based on this specification. So far I’ve been unable to think of an

Re: [sidr] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC6485 (4340)

2015-05-10 Thread Sean Turner
On Apr 23, 2015, at 21:50, Richard Hansen rhan...@bbn.com wrote: On 2015-04-21 18:49, Sean Turner wrote: so I'd probably just leave it. Are you saying that the errata process is too heavyweight for a minor editorial typo like this? If so, is there a more appropriate way to report

Re: [sidr] extensions in RFC6487 but not draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-10

2015-06-12 Thread Sean Turner
Not seeing any objections I’ll go ahead and spin a new version over the weekend. spt On Jun 02, 2015, at 13:32, David Mandelberg da...@mandelberg.org wrote: Hi, There's some text in draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-10 sections 3.1 and 3.1.3 that I found confusing. For reference,

Re: [sidr] preventing SKI collisions

2015-08-11 Thread Sean Turner
it to you to decide whether that’s enough of a safety margin. I think Richard gives his opinion in point 8 of this msg: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sidr/SLhN-BAOzQmxn-7GmfWxIc2VrrQ spt -G On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Sean Turner turn...@ieca.com wrote: On May 22, 2015, at 10:55

Re: [sidr] preventing SKI collisions

2015-08-11 Thread Sean Turner
Saw you’re earlier msg, but figured I’d just reply to this one. On Aug 07, 2015, at 12:07, Richard Hansen rhan...@bbn.com wrote: On 2015-08-07 06:35, Randy Bush wrote: This change would require certificates to be re-issued (or possibly keys to be rolled) all the way down from Trust Anchors.

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rfc6485bis-03.txt

2015-08-06 Thread Sean Turner
This one looks good - let’s ship it! spt On Jul 25, 2015, at 04:47, Geoff Huston g...@apnic.net wrote: With many thanks to Richard Hansen for his editing of this draft, I believe that this draft addresses both the underlying tech issue that was unable to be addressed in an erratum, and

Re: [sidr] preventing SKI collisions

2015-08-06 Thread Sean Turner
On May 22, 2015, at 10:55, Richard Hansen rhan...@bbn.com wrote: Hi all, A while back Sean Turner raised the idea of switching to SHA-256 for the Subject Key Identifier while discussing rfc6487bis (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.sidr/6878). I see a couple of reasons to do

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-11.txt

2015-08-06 Thread Sean Turner
. Title : BGPsec Algorithms, Key Formats, Signature Formats Author : Sean Turner Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-11.txt Pages : 7 Date: 2015-08-06 Abstract: This document specifies the algorithms

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-10.txt

2015-07-20 Thread Sean Turner
of the IETF. Title : BGPsec Algorithms, Key Formats, Signature Formats Author : Sean Turner Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-10.txt Pages : 7 Date: 2015-07-20 Abstract: This document specifies

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-09.txt

2015-07-20 Thread Sean Turner
of the IETF. Title : Router Keying for BGPsec Authors : Sean Turner Keyur Patel Randy Bush Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-09.txt Pages : 11 Date: 2015-07

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-14.txt

2015-11-10 Thread Sean Turner
oup of > the IETF. > >Title : BGPsec Algorithms, Key Formats, & Signature Formats > Author : Sean Turner > Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-14.txt > Pages : 7 > Date: 2015-11-10 > > Abs

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-12.txt

2015-11-04 Thread Sean Turner
On Nov 04, 2015, at 20:14, t.petch <ie...@btconnect.com> wrote: > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Sean Turner" <s...@sn3rd.com> > To: "sidr wg list" <sidr@ietf.org> > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 2:07 AM > >> Incorporat

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-15.txt

2015-11-04 Thread Sean Turner
ting Working Group of > the IETF. > >Title : A Profile for BGPsec Router Certificates, > Certificate Revocation Lists, and Certification Requests >Authors : Mark Reynolds > Sean Turner > Steph

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-14.txt

2015-11-03 Thread Sean Turner
tion Requests >Authors : Mark Reynolds > Sean Turner > Stephen Kent > Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-14.txt > Pages : 14 > Date: 2015-11-03 > > Abstra

Re: [sidr] Validation reconsidered draft status

2015-11-05 Thread Sean Turner
Here’s a file that shows the differences between the two procedures (I backed out the capitalization changes). text1 is in 6487 (left) and text2 is in validation-reconsidered (right). spt Title: Diff: text1.txt - text2.txt  text1.txt   text2.txt 

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-algs-13.txt

2015-11-05 Thread Sean Turner
s. > This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of > the IETF. > >Title : BGPsec Algorithms, Key Formats, & Signature Formats > Author : Sean Turner > Filename: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-al

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