[Sprinklerforum] Re: Cannabis growing

2024-05-13 Thread Rick Matsuda
Maybe they can install solid vertical bulkheads along the length of the tables spaced at 10 to 12-feet between the bulkheads. These would slow the progression of any fire along the length of the tables and force the heat out from under the tables to activate the overhead sprinklers quicker.

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Cannabis growing

2024-05-13 Thread Steve Leyton
All: I was just approved by NFPA Standards Council to represent AFSA on the 420. I do not yet have a copy of the first draft (it’s not available on the 420 web page or through free access), but I’ve requested and will look over the fire protection systems design criteria, which I believe

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Cannabis growing

2024-05-13 Thread Fpdcdesign
The array of tables are about 1000 sqft each Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 (tel:860-535-2080) (ofc) 860-554-7054 (tel:860-554-7054) (fax) 860-608-4559 (tel:860-608-4559) (cell) > >

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Cannabis growing

2024-05-13 Thread Kerry Madigan
Denver has been accepting OH2 for grow facilities for a long time. It doesn't matter if the tables are portable or not. Kerry L Kerry L. Madigan, PE Principal, Sr. Fire Protection Engineer ** */VERITAS/*///Fire Engineering, Inc./// 12364 W. Alameda Pkwy, Suite 135 Lakewood, CO 80228

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Cannabis growing

2024-05-13 Thread Spencer Tomlinson
I’m in the 2019 edition, but sections 9.5.5.3.1.5 and 9.5.5.3.2 may help provide guidance. They do not up the hazard level due to an obstruction in place, I like the idea of taking into effect a shielded fire, especially with the size of some of these grow ops these days, but there are certain

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Cannabis growing

2024-05-13 Thread Bill Jones
Todd, the concealed spaces referenced in NFPA 13 are all regarding the construction of the building being protected. The tables you describe would be defined as furniture and would not fit into the area of concealed spaces. Just an AHJ point of view, but I believe supported strongly by the

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Cannabis growing

2024-05-13 Thread Fpdcdesign
Travis, The definition of EH2 and section 19.3.3.1.5 both deal with protection where there are unprotected spaces adjacent or within. The big difference is the word “extensive” in the EH2 definition. From what I have seen below grow tables it is a very wet environment with most of

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Cannabis growing

2024-05-13 Thread Travis Mack
The 3000 sq ft is specifically for unprotected concealed combustible spaces. So I don’t see how that could be used as you don’t have that from what you describe. Travis Mack, SET M.E.P.CAD | 181 N. Arroyo Grande Blvd. #105 I Henderson, NV 89074 www.mepcad.com | m:

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Cannabis growing

2024-05-13 Thread Fpdcdesign
Travis, What I have run into out here is that the grow tables are not fixed in place. Consequently, they become “furniture” and protection is not installed underneath. (I am trying to get that information). If they are not fixed, does the 3000 sqft area increase apply or do we go

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Standpipe NFPA14 2019

2024-05-13 Thread Chris Wilson
Steve, Yes there is a hose connection at the first floor landing of the remote stand pipe. Yes there is access to occupied first floor space via the exit passage and the remote stairway. Thanks Christopher S. Wilson SET Project Design Manager Treasure Valley Fire Protection 2731 S. Saturn Way

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Cannabis growing

2024-05-13 Thread Travis Mack
What unprotected concealed combustible spaces are you referencing? The 3000 sq ft is for that. Typically with grow houses, we have put sprinklers under the racks of tables, if I am understanding correctly what you are describing. These houses are definitely a unique protection scheme and it

[Sprinklerforum] Cannabis growing

2024-05-13 Thread Fpdcdesign
I know that NFPA 420 is coming but I believe has not been issued yet. I have been asked to look at a new growing facility. NFPA 13 calls out agriculture facilities os OH2, which make sense for this occupancy. My question comes from the tables. The tables are portable so sprinklers