Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem

2024-05-08 Thread Eugene Y Chang via Starlink
I am appreciating this email thread. It is really hard to “sell” the features ala carte. They need to be bundled into reference packages. This you know. > The wisps totally got it with fq codel and cake arriving native for mikeotiks > entire product line and much of ubnts gear prior to that.

[Starlink] bloat on wifi8 and 802.11 wg

2024-05-08 Thread Dave Taht via Starlink
I wish I had gone to the 802.11wg more regularly than I did. I only gave one bloat related presentation in 2014, shipped the make-wifi-fast code in 2016(?), and never went back. IETF ate all my money and time. I just assumed they were all in the slipstream of linux and openwrt. :/ I did have a

Re: [Starlink] revisiting the old "starwrt" plan

2024-05-08 Thread Dave Taht via Starlink
Sometimes I look at this old document and dream about what might have been. On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 7:37 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > > A genesis point for the creation of this email list was this failed, too > ambitious, and too multi-faceted, project proposal from over 2 years back. > See and

Re: [Starlink] [Bloat] L4S

2024-05-08 Thread Rich Brown via Starlink
Let's split this thread and use this message to continue the discussion of L4S. Thanks > On May 8, 2024, at 5:31 AM, David Fernández via Starlink > wrote: > > I see that L4S is not really solving everything (I read about issues with > Wi-Fi), although it seems to be a step in the right

Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem

2024-05-08 Thread David Fernández via Starlink
I see that L4S is not really solving everything (I read about issues with Wi-Fi), although it seems to be a step in the right direction, to be improved, let's hope. At least, Nokia is implementing it in its network gear (for mobile operators), so the bufferbloat problem is somehow acknowledged by

Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem

2024-05-08 Thread Frantisek Borsik via Starlink
Sorry - I meant ~ 4,5 % of the ISPs, not 2 :) All the best, Frank Frantisek (Frank) Borsik https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 Skype: casioa5302ca frantisek.bor...@gmail.com On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 9:58 AM

Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem

2024-05-08 Thread Frantisek Borsik via Starlink
Just to add the latest numbers from our (LibreQoS) ongoing "QoE competitive landscape research": Out of 66k plus ISPs worldwide, barely 3k use some QoE middle-box. Preseem is the market leader, with well over 400 T2 & T3 ISPs (number shared in their wonderful Fixed Wireless Network Report 2024 Q1