Re: login to pidgin

2015-06-01 Thread Brian Morrison
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business associate agreement

2015-06-01 Thread Catherine Galle
Hello, We are interested in using pidgin with the otr plugin for messaging between staff, as pidgin-otr has high ratings/reviews. We are a doctor's office and therefore governed by the rules of HIPAA. Would it be possible to get a business associate agreement between our company and pidgin?

Re: business associate agreement

2015-06-01 Thread Luke Schierer
Do you need a similar agreement with Microsoft for your use of Windows? Word? Excel? Do you need a similar agreement with the vendor of your appointment scheduling vendor? Basically, I highly doubt that HIPPA requires that you sign a business associate agreement with every software vendor you

Re: business associate agreement

2015-06-01 Thread David Woolley
On 01/06/15 19:26, Catherine Galle wrote: We are interested in using pidgin with the otr plugin for messaging between staff, as pidgin-otr has high ratings/reviews. We are a doctor's office and therefore governed by the rules of HIPAA. Would it be possible to get a business associate agreement

Re: business associate agreement

2015-06-01 Thread David Woolley
On 01/06/15 21:35, Catherine Galle wrote: Yes we are required to have a 'BAA' with our appointment scheduling software. We do not have to have an agreement with Windows as nothing that is considered electronic protected health information is submitted to or through them. If you use Windows

Re: business associate agreement

2015-06-01 Thread Catherine Galle
Luke, Yes we are required to have a 'BAA' with our appointment scheduling software. We do not have to have an agreement with Windows as nothing that is considered electronic protected health information is submitted to or through them. Sincerely, Catherine On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Luke

Re: business associate agreement

2015-06-01 Thread Luke Schierer
EVERYTHING that you do on a computer is submitted through your operating system. If you type protected information on the keyboard, the OS is responsible for transmitting that information to the application. If you save protected information to disk, the OS plays a part in moving that

Re: business associate agreement

2015-06-01 Thread Luke Schierer
Precisely, Pidgin is just a client, that will allow you to connect to one or more of many Instant Messaging services out there. See my other reply. Pidgin is open source software, and has never required contributors to assign their rights to the project management. Thus it is not that Pidgin

Re: business associate agreement

2015-06-01 Thread Catherine Galle
David, Thank you for your response. OTR does actually encrypt the messages (I have tested it), which is the requirement of HIPAA if we transmit protected health information. Pidgin would be used between employees for things like Please sign Jane Doe's chart from 6/1/15 or Please confirm the urine

Re: business associate agreement

2015-06-01 Thread Michael McConville
It's also worth noting, though, that OTR will disable logging and will delete messages along with their encryption key when the conversation ends. So, if nothing records the messages on either machine *during the conversation*, they cannot be retrieved. I'm assuming you already know this, Luke,

Re: business associate agreement

2015-06-01 Thread Luke Schierer
The server can, and must be assumed to, record. For most OTR conversations, it can be safely assumed that the time to brute force the messages, especially since with OTR you have to brute force them effectively individually, is prohibitive. But it should be evaluated if that risk is