Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-13 Thread Melissa Nelson
. :) Melissa From: Dana Worley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tcp@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:01:55 -0600 While I'm not a member of the STC :), I get a couple of the Intermountain Chapter's mass mailings. They provided

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-13 Thread Al Geist
Melissa Nelson wrote: I think the boss is always right in the same way the customer is always right! Often times, both are wrong, but often times to keep them happy...we do not point out how wrong they are. I think it is really a case of picking your battles. Some battles are not worth the

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-13 Thread Bill Swallow
Yes, it's about picking battles, but if my boss is wrong, I usually explain why. A little knowledge - not ridicule - goes a long way. On 6/13/07, Melissa Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the boss is always right in the same way the customer is always right! Often times, both are wrong,

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-13 Thread Al Geist
Donna Jone wrote: Al, are you trying to tell us that honesty pays? Where are you getting such nonsense? I was younger and a lot more naïve and innocent back thena lot younger Al Geist Technical Writing, Help, Marketing Collateral, Web Design and Award Winning Videos Voice/Msg:

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-13 Thread John Cook
On 6/6/07, Dana Worley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know several creative/tech writers as well. 8 ) I thought this comment was interesting: I think technical writing is probably in some ways, in many important ways, a better education for a creative writer than creative writing, he said.

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-13 Thread John Cook
On 6/6/07, Chris Borokowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the writers I mentioned is someone I work with on a daily basis. He does not like the term creative writing, and prefers fiction, and is of the opinion that the worst thing a writer can do is spend time in creative writing classes.

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-13 Thread John Cook
On 6/7/07, Dori Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and not fuss around with self-indulgent sillinesses such as writer's block (from which no successful creative writer suffers). From my reading, it seems clear that many successful creative writers wrestle with writers block, some more than others,

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-13 Thread Bill Swallow
Orson Scott Card has probably the most famous example from the sci-fi side of things. He says that when he runs into writer's block, he views it as a sign that he's going down the wrong path, and he treats it as a tool, a mechanism that alerts him when he has somehow gone off-track. Instead

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-07 Thread Jones, Donna
Rhonda Bracey wrote: ...it's obvious that tech writing in one form or another has been around for a long time. Technical writing was around longer, but I don't think the job title technical writer was coined until somewhat more recently. Weren't many early technical writers deemed typists? In

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-07 Thread Dick Margulis
John Garison wrote: You could make an argument that some of the Romans (Julius Caesar and Claudius among them) were doing technical writing when describing how to build fortifications, aqueducts, ports, and the like. Joe Chapline was the very first person whose full time job was Software

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-07 Thread Tom Johnson
writers may shape future of American lit John Garison wrote: You could make an argument that some of the Romans (Julius Caesar and Claudius among them) were doing technical writing when describing how to build fortifications, aqueducts, ports, and the like. Joe Chapline was the very first

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-07 Thread Dori Green
Just a personal observation -- technical and creative writing call upon the same craftsmanship (use of language, planning, outlining, adjusting when the project runs away with itself). TW is great practice for a CW because it instills the discipline to _write_ and not fuss around with

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-07 Thread John Garison
It was a guide to how to operate the ENIAC system ... perhaps not what we would call an operating system today, but it was a guide to how to operate the ENIAC system and its software. Lots of hardware though. I took a look at the document - Joe was a speaker at a conference I put together -

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-07 Thread Melissa Nelson
writers may shape future of American lit Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:01:55 -0600 While I'm not a member of the STC :), I get a couple of the Intermountain Chapter's mass mailings. They provided a link to an interesting article in the Deseret News (a Salt Lake paper): http://deseretnews.com/dn/view2

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-07 Thread Jones, Donna
Melissa Nelson wrote: She has inspired me, although I never seem to get past the carrying around a notebook in my purse and jotting down ideas phase! :( You've made it to the carrying a notebook phase? Wow! I've been stuck in the I really should carry a notebook phase for years now. :0) Donna

[TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-06 Thread Dana Worley
While I'm not a member of the STC :), I get a couple of the Intermountain Chapter's mass mailings. They provided a link to an interesting article in the Deseret News (a Salt Lake paper): http://deseretnews.com/dn/view2/1,4382,660226327,00.html?textfiel d=Scott+Hatch or

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-06 Thread Chris Borokowski
He's not the only one. I know of two TWs who write literature on the side. One has self-published three books, and the other has been published in several short story journals. --- Dana Worley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I'm not a member of the STC :), I get a couple of the Intermountain

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-06 Thread Dana Worley
On Wednesday, June 06, 2007, Chris Borokowski wrote: The best writer I personally knew said that if you were a good talker, and knew a good story, the rest was research and practice. There may be a creative writer inside many of us. I've always felt that my talking got better after I became

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-06 Thread Green, Christopher
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana Worley While I'm not a member of the STC :), I get a couple of the Intermountain Chapter's mass mailings. They provided a link to an interesting article in the Deseret News (a Salt Lake paper):

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-06 Thread Bill Swallow
Good he doesn't assign readings from Microsoft manuals... Those are hard finds, and I can only imagine the school bookstore markup on those puppies! ;-) On 6/6/07, Dana Worley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I'm not a member of the STC :), I get a couple of the Intermountain Chapter's mass

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-06 Thread Bill Swallow
Personally, I think technical writing is easy but I wouldn't even consider tackling any type of creative writing. Maybe I'm not as good at observing life as I am observing a piece of software :) what do you mean, Dana? They're not the same? Wow. My reality is shattered. -- Bill Swallow HATT

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-06 Thread Bill Swallow
what do you mean, Dana? They're not the same? Wow. My reality is shattered. Bill, have you been doing marketing writing again? Is it that obvious? ;) -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager

Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit

2007-06-06 Thread Rhonda Bracey
Subject: Re: [TCP] Technical writers may shape future of American lit i thought it was the second oldest profession, just under prostitution... No pun intended. On 6/6/07, Dan Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno. I stopped reading as soon as I got to the fallacy, Technical writing didn't