Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-13 Thread Dori Green
Sue Heim wrote: BTW, I do have a degree in Landscape Archicture. ** And it can apply to the employer's needs but even then they aren't likely to pay for it. My sister has a Master's in LA. She works for the Dept. of Transportation (Highways) _as_ a landscape

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-13 Thread Charles Beck
Hi all, OK, I'll weigh in here with a slightly different perspective. I was 42 when I decided a major career change had to be in my future. After getting some professional career counseling, I chose to go into technical communication. There was an excellent master's program in technical

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-13 Thread Barry Campbell
On 6/12/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, when I heard the statement from my boss about doing graduate coursework was not an objective that supported company goals, I was a little put off. Thoughts? (Apologies to both Sean and the group if this appears twice, but I got a

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-13 Thread Brierley, Sean
Right. -Original Message- snip If that's how your boss feels, don't list it as a personal development goal or expect to get approval to use the company's money in whole or in part for graduate education. snip Good luck! Sounds like fun. (I'm planning to start an executive MBA program

[TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Brierley, Sean
Hi, We just did our self-evaluations for our employer. At the department meeting today, the boss said getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews. Yours truly mentioned pursuing a masters degree in his self review.

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Chris Borokowski
From pure business logic, unless they have a need to brag to customers about the number of MA/PhDs they hire, why would they want to have to pay higher salaries? --- Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We just did our self-evaluations for our employer. At the department meeting

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Dan Goldstein
:13 PM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit We just did our self-evaluations for our employer. At the department meeting today, the boss said getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Jones, Donna
Hi Sean, Is the masters degree that you're pursuing relevant to your job? Donna - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Brierley, Sean
for feedback from my employer before delving into this. What would you do and why? Thoughts? Cheers, Sean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jones, Donna Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:00 PM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Sue Heim
What would a graduate degree provide to your employer, in tangible benefits? Besides personal development, I mean. I can kinda understand where they are coming from. A graduate degree is way different than a BA or BS. What type of advantage would having the advanced degree give you in order to do

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Gene Kim-Eng
Getting an advanced degree doesn't support the company's goals, yet they'll pay people who have them more to do the same work. The message I get from this is that the company pays more for advanced degrees because qualified candidates who have them won't work for less, doesn't want to have to

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Dana Worley
On Tuesday, June 12, 2007, Brierley, Sean wrote: At the department meeting today, the boss said getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews. That's ludicrous. How can *learning* be an activity that is not in

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Brierley, Sean
:13 PM To: Brierley, Sean Cc: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit What would a graduate degree provide to your employer, in tangible benefits? Besides personal development, I mean. I can kinda understand where they are coming from. A graduate degree is way

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Brierley, Sean
? These are my thoughts. Cheers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Heim Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:20 PM To: Dana Worley Cc: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit It depends on what the learning

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Wade Courtney
I thought he was trying to get a degree in soccer ball usability and design. ;) On 6/12/07, Dana Worley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, June 12, 2007, Sue Heim wrote: It depends on what the learning is. To obtain a graduate degree just for the sake of it does not necessarily benefit

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Sue Heim
BTW, I do have a degree in Landscape Archicture. Not a Masters, though! :) So there Pfftt! BIG grin ...sue On 6/12/07, Dana Worley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, June 12, 2007, Sue Heim wrote: It depends on what the learning is. To obtain a graduate degree just for the sake of

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Chris Borokowski
] On Behalf Of Sue Heim Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:20 PM To: Dana Worley Cc: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit It depends on what the learning is. To obtain a graduate degree just for the sake of it does not necessarily benefit the company. It does

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Brierley, Sean
LOL! Nah, am teaching that course. grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wade Courtney Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:40 PM To: Dana Worley Cc: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit I thought he

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Brierley, Sean
] graduate education not a benefit BTW, I do have a degree in Landscape Archicture. Not a Masters, though! :) So there Pfftt! BIG grin DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged

Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Mike Starr
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Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Connie Giordano
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Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit

2007-06-12 Thread Al Geist
I was going to get a combined MA in debauchery and sloth, but I found the field was full so I spent my years after getting a BA in Journalism writing for anyone who would pay me and studying video production, photography, magazine publishing and web development. Getting married to a wonderful