systemd depends so heavily on a files it can not reboot

2013-07-08 Thread Adam Pribyl
I've hit very unpleasant trouble - my ext4 rootfs gots crazy and I had a thousands of multiply claimed blocks files. This revealed to me one systemd weakness - it depends so heavily on a files on a rootfs, it can not, in case they are damaged, do its basic function - allow to login and control

Re: systemd depends so heavily on a files it can not reboot

2013-07-08 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/08/2013 12:03 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote: I've hit very unpleasant trouble - my ext4 rootfs gots crazy and I had a thousands of multiply claimed blocks files. This revealed to me one systemd weakness - it depends so heavily on a files on a rootfs, it can not, in case they are damaged, do its

rawhide report: 20130708 changes

2013-07-08 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Jul 8 08:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [derelict] derelict-tcod-3-20.20130626gite70c293.fc20.i686 requires tcod derelict-tcod-3-20.20130626gite70c293.fc20.x86_64 requires tcod

Re: user list

2013-07-08 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 10:31:05PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On 2013-07-07 6:33, Michal Jaegermann wrote: Another gross anti-security misfeature is to have your name permanently stuck on a bar of a Gnome desktop for any shoulder surfer to see when you happen to be using your laptop in a

Re: user list

2013-07-08 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 08:27 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: That sounds like something new in F19. Apparently after a long while somebody eventually caught on. On a Fedora 18 installation I do not know where to look for something like that (and my rawhide box is at this moment way behind).

Re: systemd depends so heavily on a files it can not reboot

2013-07-08 Thread Richard Ryniker
Sounds like an unfortunate situation that should be addressed by use of a Live system, which can repair or salvage data from the afflicted file systems. If repair is possible, job done. If not possible, solution is to re-install the operating system. Rather than invest serious effort to make

Re: systemd depends so heavily on a files it can not reboot

2013-07-08 Thread Adam Pribyl
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: No need to open a discussion. SysRq is disable for are a reason and what you are propose allows anyone that sits at the keyboard to kill all process,reboot without syncing or authorization and all because you got a corrupted filesystem. OK,

Re: systemd depends so heavily on a files it can not reboot

2013-07-08 Thread John Reiser
On 07/08/2013, Adam Pribyl wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: No need to open a discussion. SysRq is disable for are a reason and what you are propose allows anyone that sits at the keyboard to kill all process,reboot without syncing or authorization and all because

Re: systemd depends so heavily on a files it can not reboot

2013-07-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 07/08/2013 09:02 AM, Adam Pribyl wrote: OK, so the systemd people say, it is perfecly fine you can not reboot via ctrl-alt-del (while it was always possible with init) and give me That seems unlikely that init would have been ok... Ctrl-alt-del switched to runlevel 6, so it still depended

Re: systemd depends so heavily on a files it can not reboot

2013-07-08 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/08/2013 04:02 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: No need to open a discussion. SysRq is disable for are a reason and what you are propose allows anyone that sits at the keyboard to kill all process,reboot without syncing or authorization and all

Re: systemd depends so heavily on a files it can not reboot

2013-07-08 Thread Adam Pribyl
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 07/08/2013 09:02 AM, Adam Pribyl wrote: OK, so the systemd people say, it is perfecly fine you can not reboot via ctrl-alt-del (while it was always possible with init) and give me That seems unlikely that init would have been ok... Ctrl-alt-del

Fedora 18 updates-testing report

2013-07-08 Thread updates
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing: Age URL 181 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0416/fedora-business-cards-1-0.1.beta1.fc18 115 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-3935/puppet-3.1.1-1.fc18 108

Fedora 17 updates-testing report

2013-07-08 Thread updates
The following Fedora 17 Security updates need testing: Age URL 368 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-10269/revelation-0.4.14-1.fc17 180 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0455/fedora-business-cards-1-0.1.beta1.fc17 108

Nitrogen

2013-07-08 Thread Frank McCormick
My favorite wallpaper setter Nitrogen has been orphanedso it's unavailable from the repositories. I run IceWm sometimes...and switch backgrounds quite often and nitrogen was the only piece of software that did it for me. Is there anyway I can get the last version for 19 ? -- --Cheers--

Re: Nitrogen

2013-07-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 22:17:07 -0400, Frank McCormick bea...@videotron.ca wrote: My favorite wallpaper setter Nitrogen has been orphanedso it's unavailable from the repositories. I run IceWm sometimes...and switch backgrounds quite often and nitrogen was the only piece of software