Re: High CPU on latest nightly

2015-03-03 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, 2015-03-02 at 22:46 +, Alexander Bisogianis wrote: I'm not seeing anything like that on my F22 desktop. I mean while installing F22, all four CPUs on the KVM host (F21) are constantly at 100% usage. Running top in TTY2, while F22 is installing, I see: Xorg

Re: Password security

2015-03-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 17:39 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: Looks like those Red Hat Security guys want to predefine what security is exactly for people over the globe, that's some kinda superflous thing I'm confused. It has nothing at all to do with Red Hat Security, and I'm not sure what

Fedora 22 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting :: Thursday, March. 05, 19:00 UTC

2015-03-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Fedora 22 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting. date: 2015-03-05 place: irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-2 time: 19:00 UTC (2 PM EST, 11 AM PST, 20:00 CET) This Thursday, March 05, we will meet to make sure we are coordinated and ready for the Alpha release of Fedora 22 on Tuesday, March 10, 2015.

Re: Enlightenment default option with KDE Plasma

2015-03-03 Thread Adam Miller
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Alexander Bisogianis alexi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just installed the latest nightly alpha, selecting KDE Plasma as the desktop. After installation, in KDM, for some reason Enlightenment is the default DE. Why is Enlightenment installed in the first

[Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, March 05 @ 17:00 UTC

2015-03-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-2 for this important meeting, wherein we shall determine the readiness of the Fedora 22 Alpha. Thursday, March 05, 2015 17:00 UTC (12 noon EST, 9 AM PST, 18:00 CET) Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine

[Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, March 05 @ 17:00 UTC

2015-03-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-2 for this important meeting, wherein we shall determine the readiness of the Fedora 22 Alpha. Thursday, March 05, 2015 17:00 UTC (12 noon EST, 9 AM PST, 18:00 CET) Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine

Re: Enlightenment default option with KDE Plasma

2015-03-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 10:51 -0600, Adam Miller wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Alexander Bisogianis alexi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just installed the latest nightly alpha, selecting KDE Plasma as the desktop. After installation, in KDM, for some reason Enlightenment

Re: Enlightenment default option with KDE Plasma

2015-03-03 Thread Mike Ruckman
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 12:58:29PM +, Alexander Bisogianis wrote: Hi, I just installed the latest nightly alpha, selecting KDE Plasma as the desktop. After installation, in KDM, for some reason Enlightenment is the default DE. Why is Enlightenment installed in the first place and why

Re: [Fedora QA] #460: Proposed Test Day - Ipsilon

2015-03-03 Thread Fedora QA
#460: Proposed Test Day - Ipsilon ---+--- Reporter: rcritten | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 22 Component: Test Day |Version: Resolution:| Keywords: Blocked By:

Re: Enlightenment default option with KDE Plasma

2015-03-03 Thread Alexander Bisogianis
On Tuesday 03 March 2015 15:08:27 Mike Ruckman wrote: When you say nightly alpha which image do you mean? The current build for testing the alpha release is TC8, which is found here [0]. Hmmm, I downloaded it from here:

Partitions on Intel BIOS RAID (or other MD RAID)

2015-03-03 Thread Ian Pilcher
Has anyone been able to install F22 onto a system with existing partitions on top of MD RAID? Anaconda crashes when I try to install either F21 of F22 Alpha TC5: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1160424 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1197257 --

Re: High CPU on latest nightly

2015-03-03 Thread drago01
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 08:04 +0100, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 17:00 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue,

[Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Alpha Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2015-03-03 Thread Adam Williamson
As per the Fedora 22 schedule [1], Fedora 22 Alpha Test Compose 8 (TC8) is now available for testing. There are major known bugs affecting the KDE image and FreeIPA: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194682 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1195811

Re: High CPU on latest nightly

2015-03-03 Thread drago01
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 17:00 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 04:59 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-02 at 22:46 +, Alexander Bisogianis wrote: I'm not seeing anything like

Re: High CPU on latest nightly

2015-03-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 08:04 +0100, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 17:00 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 04:59 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-02 at 22:46 +,

Custom UEFI layout with /boot/efi, bug 1168118

2015-03-03 Thread Chris Murphy
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1168118 This, among dozens of EFI System Partition bugs, and an endless stream of user confusion demonstrated on various forums and lists proving users do not now and will never understand the basics let alone the specifics of EFI System Partitions. And

Re: High CPU on latest nightly

2015-03-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 17:00 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 04:59 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-02 at 22:46 +, Alexander Bisogianis wrote: I'm not seeing anything like that on my F22 desktop. I mean while installing F22, all four CPUs on

Re: Custom UEFI layout with /boot/efi, bug 1168118

2015-03-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 18:13 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: This seems more appropriate as an anaconda patch than a thread on test@? I'm not sure what action test@ is expected to take about it. I couldn't

Re: Custom UEFI layout with /boot/efi, bug 1168118

2015-03-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 17:00 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1168118 This, among dozens of EFI System Partition bugs, and an endless stream of user confusion demonstrated on various forums and lists proving users do not now and will never understand

Re: Enlightenment default option with KDE Plasma

2015-03-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 22:17 +, Alexander Bisogianis wrote: On Tuesday 03 March 2015 15:08:27 Mike Ruckman wrote: When you say nightly alpha which image do you mean? The current build for testing the alpha release is TC8, which is found here [0]. Hmmm, I downloaded it from here:

[Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Alpha Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2015-03-03 Thread Adam Williamson
As per the Fedora 22 schedule [1], Fedora 22 Alpha Test Compose 8 (TC8) is now available for testing. There are major known bugs affecting the KDE image and FreeIPA: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194682 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1195811

[Fedora QA] #463: Break yum/dnf migration overview into doable chunks

2015-03-03 Thread Fedora QA
#463: Break yum/dnf migration overview into doable chunks ---+ Reporter: roshi | Owner: roshi Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 22 Component: Wiki | Version: Keywords: | Blocked By:

Re: Custom UEFI layout with /boot/efi, bug 1168118

2015-03-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: This seems more appropriate as an anaconda patch than a thread on test@? I'm not sure what action test@ is expected to take about it. I couldn't produce an anaconda patch if my life depended on it, you know that.

Re: High CPU on latest nightly

2015-03-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 04:59 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-02 at 22:46 +, Alexander Bisogianis wrote: I'm not seeing anything like that on my F22 desktop. I mean while installing F22, all four CPUs on the KVM host (F21) are constantly at 100% usage.

Re: Custom UEFI layout with /boot/efi, bug 1168118

2015-03-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: That bug isn't really a design choice bug. It's a hoary codepath bug. Your concerns in this mail are fairly orthogonal to the specific problem I'm trying to deal with there. It is not orthogonal. It is perhaps

Re: High CPU on latest nightly

2015-03-03 Thread Alexander Bisogianis
On Tuesday 03 March 2015 04:59:48 Kamil Paral wrote: Alexander, try running the installation with this boot option: inst.updates=https://kparal.fedorapeople.org/tmp/no-spinner.img It should disable spinner animation. Then compare the CPU usage. I still haven't gotten to reporting it as a

Re: Password security

2015-03-03 Thread Christopher Meng
Looks like those Red Hat Security guys want to predefine what security is exactly for people over the globe, that's some kinda superflous thing I'm confused. Please checkout this thread: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2015-February/124965.html -- Yours sincerely, Christopher

Re: Password security

2015-03-03 Thread Gregory Woodbury
This is just the latest symptom that Fedora and RedHat are showing of a disease I call beating Microsoft at their own game. The main symptom is removing choice and forcing admins and users to do things the way the company wants you to do it. Things will LOOK this way! Things will WORK that way!