On Tue, 2019-04-02 at 12:07 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:19 AM Kamil Paral wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 9:04 PM Adam Williamson
> > wrote:
> > > "The boot menu for all release-blocking installer and live images
> > > should include an entry which causes both
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:19 AM Kamil Paral wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 9:04 PM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
>>
>> "The boot menu for all release-blocking installer and live images
>> should include an entry which causes both installation and the
>> installed system to use a generic, highly
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 9:04 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> "The boot menu for all release-blocking installer and live images
> should include an entry which causes both installation and the
> installed system to use a generic, highly compatible video driver (such
> as 'vesa')."
>
Maybe change
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 3:04 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> So, here's the specific text I propose. At Basic we would change this
> requirement:
>>
> To read only:
>
> "The boot menu for all release-blocking installer and live images
> should include an entry which causes both installation and the
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 14:30 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> My two cents:
>
> If there's a fallback option, and if the user selects it, they
> shouldn't end up in an unambiguous state. Right now we're seeing
> systems hanging. I'd rather see a crash than a hang where the user
> can't get to a shell,
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:31 PM Chris Murphy
wrote:
> My two cents:
>
> If there's a fallback option, and if the user selects it, they
> shouldn't end up in an unambiguous state. Right now we're seeing
> systems hanging. I'd rather see a crash than a hang where the user
> can't get to a shell,
My two cents:
If there's a fallback option, and if the user selects it, they
shouldn't end up in an unambiguous state. Right now we're seeing
systems hanging. I'd rather see a crash than a hang where the user
can't get to a shell, and sees no useful information on the screen
that tells them why
Due to the context and actual bugs, and what we see during the argues, the
main idea about "work correctly" is that you should be able to launch a
working desktop where typical use of some tools and specialy the installer
process can be launched and executed with success.
Yeah, with caveats, a
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 16:02 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> So with the above caveat understood that "work correctly" has a bunch
> of asterisks next to it and you will probably be able to tell that
> you're using a fallback path, I don't think it's intrinsically less
> likely that graphics fallback
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> The justification for this is, I hope I am correctly representing all
> views here (please say so if not), that this mechanism is both less
> necessary (due to a general reduction in the amount of 'weird' graphics
> hardware out there,
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 15:33 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Adam Williamson composed on 2019-03-26 11:38 (UTC-0700):
>
> To be clear, this is about DDX drivers, not kernel drivers, right? Seeing
> "driver" used willy nilly in discussing video issues and configuration is
> confusing.
The mail you're
Adam Williamson composed on 2019-03-26 11:38 (UTC-0700):
To be clear, this is about DDX drivers, not kernel drivers, right? Seeing
"driver" used willy nilly in discussing video issues and configuration is
confusing.
> ...when a *new* graphics card comes out, one that the
> nouveau driver
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> The justification for this is, I hope I am correctly representing all
> views here (please say so if not), that this mechanism is both less
> necessary (due to a general reduction in the amount of 'weird' graphics
> hardware out there,
Hi folks!
So at last week's Fedora 30 Beta Go/No-Go meeting, it was decided that
the Basic release criterion:
"Boot menu contents
The boot menu for all supported installer and live images should
include an entry which causes both installation and the installed
system to use a generic, highly
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