Re: Topband: 1940 kHz intruder WWRU WKDM

2023-01-06 Thread Don Kirk
Hi Jim, The AM radio stations are required to do the annual measurements per the current FCC rules and I have indeed been shown the measurement data at transmitter sites I have visited. The FCC does not do the measurements, they just require them to be done and the small stations I have gone to

Re: Topband: 1940 kHz intruder WWRU WKDM

2023-01-06 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/6/2023 9:52 PM, Don Kirk wrote: Broadcasters are held to some very stringent spurious emission limits and the stations actually go through a periodic inspection to show compliance. This was certainly true when I worked in broadcasting 60 years ago, but With deregulation (during the

Re: Topband: 1940 kHz intruder WWRU WKDM

2023-01-06 Thread Don Kirk
Hi Frank and gang, I might be able to help provide some additional insight/direction. This is not necessarily a case of having to show harmful interference, as the AM Broadcasters are held to some very stringent spurious emission limits and the stations actually go through a periodic inspection

Re: Topband: 1940 kHz intruder WWRU WKDM

2023-01-06 Thread Frank W3LPL
Hello AJ, Topbanders have done an excellent job of precisely identifying the source of the 1940 kHz intermod. I don't think its helpful for those of who are not being harmed to lodge a complaint with the FCC. Its the responsibility of those being harmed t file a complaint. Those being

Topband: 1940 kHz intermod from WRRU and WKDM

2023-01-06 Thread Frank W3LPL
Hi Fred, We've figured out the mystery, now we need to determine if anyone is being harmed by the weak, intermittent intermod on 1940 kHz 73 Frank W3LPL From: "Fred Kleber" To: "donovanf" Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 1:34:04 PM Subject: Finding Jersey City Top Banders Hi Frank,

Re: Topband: Spur as it reappeared

2023-01-06 Thread Frank W3LPL
Hi George, Faulty day/night switches may well be the cause! You may have seen in my previous email that both stations switch patterns from day to night. This is the first time I've ever hears of two AM stations with two antenna arrays sharing the same small site 73 Frank W3LPL - Original

Re: Topband: 1940 kHz Intruder

2023-01-06 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/6/2023 12:04 PM, Don Kirk wrote: and sure enough I see 8 towers at this address using google earth. Three towers usually indicates a directional array. Are any of those stations licensed directional? That could mean either a monster combining network or violation of someone's license.

Re: Topband: 1940 kHz Intruder

2023-01-06 Thread Don Kirk
Hi Rick and Frank, This may have already been discussed offline but if WWRU 1660KHz is indeed one of 2 stations mixing then the math suggests 1380 KHz is a prime candidate regarding the second transmitter involved in the generation of a 3rd order IMD product that falls on 1940 KHz and it turns

Topband: Finally some Prop

2023-01-06 Thread Ron Spencer via Topband
Over the last several days there has been fair to good propagation both to Europe and the far east. This morning (1/6) worked JA5DQH with good signals (but QSB) and heard HL5IVL but didn't work. Others on the east coast did. At sunrise in England worked G3OLB but not his typical strength. 

Re: Topband: 1940 kHz Intruder

2023-01-06 Thread Rick Lapp
Fred, what made it easy was hearing an English language pop song that I could easily identify through the fading and static. Switching the VFO to the broadcast band, I simply scanned until I heard the same song. Confirmed it with several other songs that nailed it. My Korean is rusty so the

Re: Topband: 1940 kHz Intruder

2023-01-06 Thread Rick Lapp
Frank, 1660 +10dB 620 S4 1010 +10dB 1190 S6 > On Jan 6, 2023, at 7:36 AM, Frank W3LPL wrote: > > Rick, > > If you're hearing more than one audio stream on 1940 kHz > do you also hear program content from: > > 1660 kHz WWRU or > 620 WSNR > 1010 WINS > 1190

Re: Topband: 1940 kHz Intruder

2023-01-06 Thread Rick Lapp
Frank, If a second signal is there, it’s way down. I will say however that the 1940 product is not clean, as a single, weak signal would sound, so it is possible that another is there. But the abrupt changes in amplitude leads me to believe that there is an intermittent 1660 transmitter

Topband: Is there anyone on the Reflector from the vicinity of Jersey City NJ?

2023-01-06 Thread Frank W3LPL
see below - Original Message - From: "Rick Lapp" To: "topband" Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 12:07:50 PM Subject: Re: Topband: 1940 kHz Intruder I’m fairly confident that I’ve identified the signal to be coming from 1660 kHz, WWRU in Jersey City NJ. There is considerable fading but I

Re: Topband: 1940 kHz Intruder

2023-01-06 Thread Rick Lapp
I’m fairly confident that I’ve identified the signal to be coming from 1660 kHz, WWRU in Jersey City NJ. There is considerable fading but I confirmed the source by listening to the programming, switching back and forth between two VFOs on the TS890. I’m located in Eastern Long Island, NY