zoltanplangar wrote:
> sound quality differences of different lms/squeezeboxserver/slimserver
> versions.
Have you considered that any "sound quality differences" you hear are
due to running tinyLMS? If you've been using the Squeezebox platform
for that long, you should know that the Touch
shacky73 wrote:
> Seems to get hung up trying to connect to my squeeze box.com
If you don't have internet access, mysqueezebox.com can't be reached.
Try starting LMS with the *No MySB* option enabled on LMS tab of
piCorePlayer. (You've never said so, but I assume your instance of LMS
is
Install and run Advanced IP Scanner:
https://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/
It will find your piCorePlayer server IP address. Enter this manually
in your Touch.
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> there is an entirely separate thread trying to resolve his problems.
> See here:
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116756-Tracks-stop-after-30-sec
Thanks garym, I posted a thought over there.
Interesting, you might be able to do it with a crossover cable:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable
Better, I think, would be to solve the wifi problem. Try moving your
network to another channel; 1, 6 and 11 are best. Are you in a
"wifi-congested" area, e.g. apartment
Dhammavijaya wrote:
> I rip the new Tears for Fears CD on my MAC , physically connect the
> external SSD to it, and transfer the ripped files to it.
A lot more convenient to use Samba; rip on Mac then copy files to RPi
SSD over your network. See Steps 3 & 4:
I'd consider the Edifier R1280T: $100. Got to be the value leader at
that price.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016P9HJIA/
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Set up the Raspberry Pi as a server running piCorePlayer and LMS and
wired to your router. Attach the hard drive via USB to the RPi or to
your router if it has USB input. Use the Touch for control and for
optical output.
https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/
Ikabob wrote:
> Does the Pi have RCA?
The RPi offers analog out on a 3.5mm stereo jack. It's not the "end
all" in terms of performance, but I've used it without issue in a casual
way as you're describing. If you want something more appropriate for
connecting to a hi-fi, you'll need the 'DAC
Got it. Do you have an old cell phone? Install a Squeezebox player app
on it and output via headphone jack.
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This kit -- the "4GB" version -- appears to be in stock and has almost
everything you'll need to connect to your DAC via USB:
https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-4-starter-max-aluminum-kit.html
It's priced at a premium compared to when these parts were plentiful,
but may be the only way to get
Ikabob wrote:
> I just want to be sure I order the right device and that it functions
> just like the Touch.
In its simplest to assemble form, the RPi player is operated remotely
using a cellphone, tablet, or web browser. Can you operate that way?
Or, do you need a touch-screen and dedicated
Ok, the Raspberry Pi solution works perfectly well if you need it in the
future.
There are also these devices which require no assembly at all:
https://polyvection.com/en/product/dac32/
https://polyvection.com/en/product/digi32/
Ikabob wrote:
> Any suggestions???
>From the photos at the link I provided above, it appears that the front
panel of the Touch detaches in one piece from the surrounding enclosure.
Take care doing this as the front display is connected to the circuit
board within the enclosure by two ribbon
Ikabob wrote:
> Where are instructions to open case?
Some photos of the Touch interior here:
https://fccid.io/JNZXRC4/Internal-Photos/Internal-Photos-1138903.pdf
Once you remove the metal stand (two screws), you pry the front and back
panel of the Touch apart much like opening a laptop PC
nbat58 wrote:
> I am trying to update the firmware to the community version but I can
> not find the advance settings the option to select the community
> firmware...
Open LMS in a browser and go to "Settings" > "Plugins". Find and select
the "Community Firmware" plugin. Restart LMS. Return
A few things I would try:
- Factory reset: hold reset button on rear of Touch for 10 secs.
- Firmware update/reapply
If still no good and wiring not an option, you might consider HomePlug:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008F537KC/
I use a coax cable on one and an optical cable on the other.
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1. Download and install LMS
2. Reboot computer to confirm LMS starts. I'm not familiar with the
macOS version of LMS and you may need to enable "auto-start at boot" in
some way. Hopefully, a Mac user will advise.
...Report back and get next steps.
Shivaji wrote:
> It shows that I am now up to date and have 7.7.3 installed.
The latest Community Firmware for Touch/Radio is 8.0.1-r16855. With the
plugin installed, it should show up once you've connected to LMS.
Just so you're up to date, I'd suggest installing the current LMS beta:
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=8.2
Then, go into LMS Settings > Plugins and enable the "Community Firmware
for Touch/Radio/Controller" and "Material Skin" plugins. This will
prompt a server restart.
^ Exactly. Run Logitech Media Server on Mac Mini:
https://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=8.2
If all is working properly, there is no "better" option.
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The Squeezebox Classic/SB3 is limited to 24/48 which would not seem to
be an issue for your sources. If connected to a DAC, I wouldn't expect
to hear any difference between it and a Squeezebox Touch. The Touch is
reported to have a better sounding analog output (internal DAC), but I
can't
Do you have the option to connect the Touch analog outputs to an
appropriate device (amp/receiver) to see if the noise goes away as it
did when you touched the rear panel jacks?
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FatPete wrote:
> Having read several threads about the poor quality of the original power
> adapter, I'm assuming that the problem is likely due to this?
Not likely. Have you tried another non-ANC headphone?
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Network issues can be hard to diagnose. First thing, I'd set my wifi
channel to something else (1, 6, or 11), reboot my router, and reboot my
server.
All else fails, figure out a way to get ethernet to your Touch or use
Powerline adapters.
Touch is natively able to process 24/96 (and can pass up to 24/192 to an
external DAC with optional "Enhanced Digital Output" applet). My guess
is that a network bottleneck is the source of your issue. Is your Touch
wired or wireless?
fletch wrote:
> The Loxie looks nice but it looks like it has been discontinued.
Not discontinued, just out of stock at the moment:
http://www.loxjie-audio.com/productshow.asp?id=157
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The least expensive thing I'd buy is a Sony STR-DH190 or Yamaha R-S202;
both around $150.
The Loxjie A30 is another interesting option.
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The least expensive thing I'd buy is a Sony STR-DH190 or Yamaha R-S202;
both around $150.
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It's safe to update to the latest LMS available here:
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=8.2
Other than that, I'd wait for more responses to decide what to do. If
you only have a Touch, that message makes no sense. The "Version
Comparison Fix" only applied to the Radio.
It can, but the server is not that robust. A USB flash drive is what
was in mind when it was designed; a big USB hard drive with a lot of
files will make it slow to respond.
Don't update to the "Community Firmware" as it removes this capability.
You only need EDO if you want to play files above 24/96; it has no
effect on "sound quality". The DAC in the Touch has held up
surprisingly well, but there's no harm in trying a newer external DAC.
I'd look at models from Topping to start. They range from $100-$850 US.
The D30pro looks to be
You only need Logitech Media Server if you have a local music library to
play. You can download it here:
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=8.2
Install and point it to your music folders.
If you only listen to internet radio or online music services, just log
your Touch
MQA is packaged in 24/48 PCM samples so Touch should pass it through.
You'll need to set Touch at fixed volume. If you reduce volume, you'll
cut off the "flag" bits that tell the DAC it's an MQA stream. Same with
HDCD. Let us know how it works out.
You can adjust balance using the Inguz EQ/DRC plugin, but your issue
sounds like a problem with amp and/or speakers. What do you mean "big
bass speaker"? Are you talking about a subwoofer? Most subs have a
volume control on the rear panel.
Do you still have the option to manually enter your SSID and password?
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You're reclocking the Touch digital output through the Topping? To each
his own, but I fail to see what "problem" this solves. "Jitter" has
never been an issue for me nor have I seen other complaints about it. I
see you also have a custom power supply for your Touch so that helps me
merlineng wrote:
> (I don't know how to restart the Touch I've just realised - holding down
> the remote button doesn't seem to do a lot!)
There is a small reset button on the rear above the ethernet port. A
brief push will reboot the Touch; a long hold will reset it to factory.
Glad it
The new firmware wants a newer version of LMS to be running on your
server. Log into server, download, and install:
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php
I've been using v8.0 for a while now without issue.
alfista wrote:
> There have been quite a few reports on failing IR receivers over the
> years. One 'post '
> (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103192-IR-sensor-ALMOST-dead-any-cure=811414=1#post811414)on
> this subject describes a possible repair.
Thanks for that link! I swapped
Jeff07971 wrote:
> Simple stuff first, have you tried new batteries ?
>
> Other than that have you another Touch you can try the remote on,
> emitters are more likely to fail then receivers.
>
> I suspect either emitter or receiver will be repairable
>
> Jeff
Thanks for your reply. I tried
Today I found that one of my beloved Squeezebox Touch units was no
longer responding to IR from remotes. Upon further investigation, I
learned that it will respond but only at short range (under 10'). Is
this something that happens with these units, and can it be repaired?
Thanks.
I know it's a bother, but I'd temporarily install LMS (no customizations
nor additional plugins) on one of your desktop PCs, index some music
files on the same PC, and try to play your Touch from there. You point
the Touch to the new server by: My Music > Switch Library.
If the above is
Is this over wireless? If so, are you able to temporarily wire the Touch
and test?
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Edvard wrote:
> And DSD128 and up don't 'work', I mean don't hear music.
Pretty sure DSD64 is the maximum supported by Squeezebox Touch (EDO) and
LMS with plugins. DSD128 via DoP requires 352.8 kHz sampling which the
Touch can't do.
Edvard wrote:
> I got DSDPlayer working, at least, I hear music when I play dsf-files.
> But according to my dac it seems that the output doesn't exceed 88.2kHz
> using spdif (while spdif has to reach 96kHz according to the specs of my
> dac).
Assuming DSDPlayer is configured correctly (see
Some free hi-res samples in many formats:
http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html
Your TEAC supports DSD 64 via DoP. If you want to try it out, install
the "DSDPlayer" LMS 3rd party plugin.
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I'll just add that the Touch remains a very competitive device for the
purposes you've described. It's DAC is fine for direct output to a set
of small powered speakers, and if connected to an external DAC it is
completely up to the demands of a great system. The Raspberry Pi
solutions come
Scrolling on the Touch is somewhat different from the SB3/Classic. Only
way to find out if it does what you want is to give it a try.
These settings on the Touch should help:
Settings > Screen > Screensavers > When Playing > Now Playing
Settings > Screen > Now Playing> Now Playing Views >
LMS is -software-. For version 7.9.2, see 'this thread'
(https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108960-Synology-7-9-2-packages).
There is also a thread for version 8.0, but I'd suggest reading about
the changes in that version first.
^ Just FYI I have a Touch connected optically to a NAD D 3020 and it
does not exhibit this problem.
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>
> Any recommendation for a good value DAC?
Topping
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Possible you have a new neighbor on your wifi channel? Try an
alternate: 1, 6, or 11.
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If you want it as part of the main display, it might be possible using
Custom Clock/Custom Clock Helper:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/archive/index.php/t-80141.html
Not easy though.
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You might try a "factory reset" and/or a firmware update/reinstall. If
all else fails, Powerline (Ethernet over house electrical network) may
be a solution:
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AV600-Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B00AWRUICG
The Harmony 650 (and I assume 665) after setup will control the Touch.
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JohnSwenson wrote:
> The momentary freq being 44103 means the asynchronous interface is
> working, the clock on the Touch is a little slower than the clock in the
> DAC. The Dac has told the driver to speed up the data rate slightly.
Thanks, I've never used the USB interface. Doesn't the Touch
Wonder why the Touch reports 4410*3*?
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Settings > Advanced > Networking
Are your Touch and server on same subnet? Are they getting DHCP from
same place (your router)?
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Have you done a true "factory reset"?
*To reset Squeezebox Touch, press the reset button located on the back
of your Squeezebox above the power plug. -Hold the button until a
“Factory Reset" message appears on the screen.- Alternatively, go to
Home > Settings > Advanced > Factory Reset >
FYI, pretty sure the Touch with appropriate plugins supports DSD64. Your
DAC needs to understand DoP (DSD over PCM).
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This might help you to diagnose:
https://www.macobserver.com/tips/mgg-answers/how-to-mac-wake-sleep-events/
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Redrum wrote:
> Can anyone comment on my question above regarding tinyLMS favorites?
I don't know if TinySC supports player favorites (i.e. favorites.opml)
in the same way as LMS, but if it does the opml file must be on the
Touch. To replace it, you'd need to SSH into the Touch and copy it
Try it. A 32GB SD card or 64GB flash drive costs under $10 so not much
to lose. The biggest issue with "Tiny SC" is speed (library rescans, in
particular), but it may be adequate for your friend particularly if the
card/drive is updated infrequently.
The steps required to do this are not that
The current firmware is here:
http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.9.2/
Touch is "fab4.bin". Copy it to a blank USB key and insert in rear of
Touch. If Touch were functional, you'd select Settings > Advanced >
Software update. In your case, I'd do a "Factory Reset" by holding the
If those are screenshots of your -current- configurations, you haven't
done anything I told you. How else are you expecting to solve this
problem?
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Please post screen shots of these two EAC tabs:
EAC > EAC Options > Filename
EAC > Compression Options > External Compression
Also, LMS > Settings > Basic Settings
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citabria327 wrote:
> no. the files in the folder are unplayable. my last rip session, all
> files show up under new music as: unknown...the entire folder is
> unplayable
Even if tags are absent or nonsensical, the files should play if
accessed via "Music Folder". Suggest you 'download latest
Can you play the files via "Music Folder" as described in the other
thread?
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"New music" is determined by file modification date. Since you've been
copying things around, you've probably changed them all. If you are
missing expected albums in New, try finding them by Artist. If not
there, run a "Clear library" rescan. If still not there, they are not in
your library or
Something to try:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109770-Sleep-Power-Issues-with-LMS-7-9-1-on-macOS-High-Sierra
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Have you adjusted "Computer Sleep" delay in Apple menu > System
Preferences > Energy Saver?
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udovdh wrote:
> My Touch has no port 22 open yet...
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?86183-Cannot-ssh-into-Touch
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Touch will natively play 24/96; install EDO applet to get 24/192. At
192, optical can be sketchy over long run or on cheap cable so recommend
coax for those cases.
The easiest way is to "reserve" an IP for your Touch via your router;
check router instructions. Otherwise, google "squeezebox
Are you thinking about running a hard drive directly into your Touch?
If so, don't do it. It's a recipe for disappointment. Run Logitech
Media Server on a proper PC with as big a hard drive as you need. The
Touch (wired or wireless) becomes a streamer for LMS which is the way it
works best.
Touch SPDIF and analog outs are always both active unless you've
disabled one using EDO.
Why not uninstall EDO and use SPDIF?
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> Perhaps his DAC has USB input only.
Good point, sorry.
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When you reboot the Touch (press button on left back above power port),
you will see a startup message about EDO being loaded. It is in the
upper left of the screen and maybe you can see it flash by if not
totally blind.
Not sure why you went the route you did with installing EDO. The
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Touch mailing
I'd like to add a powered subwoofer into my system, but the only way to
take an output is from the analog outs on the back of the Touch. The
coax out is already going to my DAC. I use the Touch to control volume
in my system and virtually 100% of my listening is via the Touch. This
isn't
You can limit what screens will cycle:
Settings > Screen > Now Playing > Now Playing Views
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Google "squeezebox nightly builds". 7.9.2 is solid.
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Listening to some FLAC files when suddenly the music stopped. Looked
over at my Touch and saw the Logitech logo. Music resumed after a
minute or so. What would cause this? Thanks.
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It happens:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109252-I-inadvertently-broke-MP3-playback
Glad you sorted it. Maybe there should be a warning on that setting!
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According to this thread, the Touch power plug is a "Type N" coax (5.5
mm OD, 2.5 mm ID, center positive):
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104026-Squeezebox-Touch-replacement-power-adapter
This cable seems a solution:
Slow performance is probably due to the way your ripping software is
configured. When back, post additional information here and you'll get
help.
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LMS couldn't be simpler so I doubt it is the source of your problems.
Install the latest release version: 7.9.1. Open LMS Control Panel and
confirm it is set to index only the folder(s) where your music library
is located. Make sure there are no shortcuts to other folders in the
target folders.
LMS couldn't be simpler so I doubt it is the source of your problems.
Install the latest release version: 7.9.1. Open LMS Control Panel and
confirm it is set to index only the folder(s) where your music library
is located. Make sure there are no shortcuts to other folders in the
target folders.
Check this thread:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?85959-Help!-Can-t-get-Squeezebox-Touch-back-to-mysqueezebox-com-as-default
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Shivaji wrote:
> On another note, if it is fried, what is a good replacement these days,
> buy another Touch on the used market, or another device that betters it
> by quite a bit.
If you don't mind doing your controlling via phone/tablet/web, I'd
suggest a Raspberry Pi running piCorePlayer.
You might try rewriting the firmware. Put the BIN file on a USB or SD
drive, unplug the Touch, insert drive, plug back in. With luck it will
post to the point of reading the drive and asking to update firmware.
Touch is "fab4":
http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/
No:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106164-Issues-with-Tidal-(v1-2-plugin)-by-Logitech=893982=1#post893982
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> Did I read that linked thread correctly? An external PSU on a SBT
> "improved the audio quality" when it's connected to an external DAC?
Incredible claims about all kinds of things are made every day by
knowledgeable people and by those in authority. This thread is almost
seven
swayzak wrote:
> However then connected to very latest 7.9x release (1st July) and still
> no offer of 7.8.0 software/firmware update.
Copy "fab4_7.8.0_r16754.bin" and "fab4.version" from the link garym
provided above to that same directory on your server. Restart your
server and you should
Looking at the manual, it's not clear to me that the Oppo can be used in
the way you want. There are no S/PDIF inputs and the USB inputs on the
front and rear panels are not the typical USB "B" type used for this
purpose. Plus, there is no description in the manual of how the device
can be used
You're saying the file will play on your Touch if opened via LMS "Music
Folder", but not if by "My Music"? Is that My Music on the Touch or in
LMS?
That file location string looks odd to me; is it possibly referencing
some kind of shortcut?
Then again, you say it works fine on your Radio so
Both of my SBT are running firmware 7.7.3-r16676 and LMS 7.9 without
issue.
You can get 24/192 playback on the Touch using the "Enhanced Digital
Output" applet:
luvpies wrote:
> Sorry for not mentioning in original post, I use windows 7, dBp seems to
> be recommended by a lot of people on here and wam, thanks for the advice
It's a fine solution, but you did say "free".
http://diyparadise.com/blogs/2010/05/08/opened-up-the-squeezebox-touch/
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