Yes, the SB3 PS works fine with the SB3. I don't have a DMM around, but
I can take the PS to someone who does.
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So... it took a little while for me to get a new PSU. I double-checked
the specs, then plugged it in and...nothing but a blank screen on the
SBT. I tried it again using the SB3 PSU that had previously worked and
still nothing.
Any ideas from this point, or is he dead, Jim?
Tested it with my SB3 PSU and bingo, it worked! That was easier than
expected -- thanks.
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Thanks. I figured that was a relatively easy and inexpensive thing to
try anyway. While I've got you here, these are the specs, right?
5V DC, 3A, 5.5mm OD, 2.5mm ID, center-positive
I have a couple PSUs for SB2 and SB3/Classic lying around, but I think
those are only 2A.
IIRC, there were a few threads around the time shortly before and after
the Touch was released (April 2010) that came to the opposite
conclusion, with lots of input by some of the more knowledgeable members
on this forum. The general gist was that the Touch was a cleaner design.
Or maybe the
My Touch has always worked fine with ethernet. Did you go back and re-do
the installation / setup of the Touch? Or did you just plug in the
ethernet cable and expect it to switch automatically?
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Are you running the Touch's internal server (TinyLMS)? If not, then it's
no different from the general case: you need an LMS plugin or an app for
mysb.com.
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Short answer is (1) Amazon would have to provide an API, (2) someone
would have to write a plugin and (3) why start a new thread for this?
See
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101706-Amazon-Prime-Music!
What is your folder structure -- it's hard to tell from your
description. If it's the typical artist/album (ie, a folder for each
artist, and that artist's albums as sub-folders) then the first thing I
check in such cases is the read permissions on the folders for the new
albums. They need to be
I wouldn't think the shape matters so much as the thickness. You could
go to your local hardware store and look at the collection of vinyl or
rubber bumpers that are used for cabinets, or felt that is intended to
go on the bottom of furniture to avoid marring floors. Or once I was in
a furniture
shacky wrote:
LMS is 7.7.3. I will turn LMS off on NAS too. Thanks! Really was
looking for feedback on whether SB performance wa declining for lack of
support but sounds like that is not the case.
Everything you've described points to home network issues, and nothing
that Logitech does or
The devil is often found in the details of _seem_ to be tagged
correctly. I don't have LMS in front of me, but I think if you navigate
to the missing tracks via Browse Music Folder (using the LMS web ui)
you can drill down to view the tags that LMS is seeing. Take a look
there -- a very close
xdb wrote:
I think there is something strange going on. I have a 10-CD box set of
which 1 disc appears under 'Artists' but to see the other 9 I have to go
to 'Music Folder'. Perhaps I'm naive but I would have thought that all
the discs in a professional box set would be similarly tagged
Strictly speaking, Vortexbox is the operating system (based on Fedora
Linux). It can be installed on any x86 computer. The hardware system
that is sold through http://vortexbox.org/buy and Amazon is called a
Vortexbox Appliance, or VBA for short.
Also note that this is essentially the small form
From your scattershot description it's hard to figure out what is going
on. First try rebooting the Touch. Either give the little button on the
back a short press (2-3 seconds) or unplug it from the power outlet and
plug it back in. If that doesn't fix things, try a factory reset by
pressing and
Unless the inputs on the Dayton are hyper-sensitive (which apparently
they aren't or you would have noticed) then that's the way to go. The
analog outputs on the Touch -- and all SB models, really -- have
voltages that are pretty much comparable to other sources such as CD
players or tape decks.
Ocean56 wrote:
I have an old laptop w/Windows XP on it now. I use it exclusively to
run LMS.
My concern is that XP support is going away in 4/2014. I either need to
replace the laptop, upgrade to 7 or 8 (which I doubt will work on an 8
year old laptop)...or load Ubuntu. I have no
Ocean56 wrote:
How well does Ubuntu work as a replacement for Windows? And how well
does it work with the Touch? atrocity wrote:
Perfectly. I first got into Ubuntu specifically because I got a cheap
computer to use as a dedicated server. Never looked back.
+1
Ubuntu takes a little
adamg, I think you're getting a little confused with your available
options.
If you want to use the Touch's built-in server (TinyLMS) then you should
attach the USB drive to the Touch's USB port, not to your router's USB
port. It's technically possible to get the Touch's server to see a NAS
over
onenakhov wrote:
Ulrich, can you paste here link to another thread?
Oleg, I see you're new to the forums. If you click on Ulrich's name in
his post (the one in blue on the left, above the info on Join Date and
Posts) you will see a link to all posts by him. It's a short list
because Ulrich is
gw43 wrote:
What wasn't great was the (sadly frequent) times when I had to spend
20-30 minutes fannying* about with the software to get it working. What
wasn't great was on my wife's days off her calling me at work to say she
couldn't get internet radio working.
snip
Sophisticated devices
Receiver'
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Ikabob wrote:
In my opinion, i do not think that the new Beats service will just dump
MOG subscribers and leave them high and dry.
I don't think Beats will just dump MOG subscribers either -- that would
make no sense. But continuing MOG services is not the same thing as
continuing MOG services
Cut-Throat wrote:
I thought I would ask Beats Audio myself, so I e-mailed them and asked
about the Squeezebox integration.
*-Hey Kevin,
Thanks for following up. I'll pass on your feedback to our product team.
Please know that we would love to develop a Squeezebox integration,
it's just a
Cut-Throat wrote:
I think alienating MOG/SB Touch Users would not be part of the plans of
Beats Audio.snip
Cut-Throat wrote:
The thing that worries me, is that the current SB Touch Pluggin would
fail to operate under the new MOG.
That's exactly my point. Beats doesn't have to be out to
Cut-Throat wrote:
Thinking about the Beat Audio launch scheduled this month. It would not
be a very good launch plan to render MOG useless for all Squeezebox
Touch users. I am sure that they are aware that they have quite a few
Monthly Subscriptions from Squeezebox Touch users. If you think
Cut-Throat wrote:
If Sonos cannot stream MOG, it would be a non-starter for me!.. MOG
is a higher quality streaming service than Spotify.
It is integrated perfectly into the Squeezebox Touch that I can control
with my Laptop.
If Sonos can do this, I might look at it. Otherwise, it
Mardler wrote:
aubuti - I cleared the W7 My Music folder of all content when I started
using the SBT; it's still empty. I use a library folder with the same
name in a HDD root directory. LMS points to the My Music in the root
directory on that HD (I just checked!).
I didn't say anything
Is it correct to assume when you say that you browse by artist/album
you mean you are browsing using the directory structure of your files?
Are you sure you're not getting Music Folder mixed up with My Music,
which are different menu levels? That is, you are doing _everything_ via
My Music Music
Mardler wrote:
snipthe thing is not fit for purpose./snip
In all your ranting you haven't bothered saying whether you are using
the Touch's built-in server or are running LMS on a proper computer. If
the former, then it is well-known that it doesn't work reliably, and the
Are you sync'ing more than one SB, or are you getting this with a single
Touch? I've only ever seen the display lagging a track or lost gapless
when I was sync'ing two or more SBs, and even that hasn't happened to me
since they improved the sync several years ago.
In addition to the DAC itself, many on this forum (including some whom I
regard as quite knowledgeable on the subject) have claimed that the
audio quality of the Touch is also better because of a cleaner signal
path (ie, less noise) within the unit. Or something like that.
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N800); In the
bullpen (boxed up and ready to use if one of the above quits): 'SB3'
(http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20051210015952/http://slimdevices.com/)
and one more 'SB Receiver'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Receiver)
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garym wrote:
yes, to control the receiver. But you couldn't use the TOUCH to setup
a receiver.
Just to expand on that a bit. To setup the Receiver you would need to
use SB Duet Controller or the Net::UDAP command-line utility. I believe
there is also some Android-based software that can be
Cut-Throat wrote:
This is not 'clearly' to me at all. Just because the Squeezebox is a
Dead Product line, does not mean that Beats Audio will not want the
Squeezebox Customers. If they don't provide Squeezebox Support, I will
drop my MOG subscription immediately.
There's only so much support
garym wrote:
Shouldn't really matter which approach you use.
Agreed, as long as your DHCP server and clients aren't flaky. If one or
more are, then the true fixed IP is a better approach.
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Mnyb wrote:
It's there in 7.8 scroll down , it's not on the top of the page .
Good to hear. I *knew* I should have checked with a normal browser,
instead of one of the iPad browsers that doesn't handle LMS web ui well
;-)
JJZolx wrote:
On my server I see this setting for Touch and Radio, but why not
Transporter?
Good point. It's not there for SB2, Boom, or Receiver either. The Play
other songs on album setting also isn't there (i.e., Settings Player
Basic Settings) for those players. I wonder if those
LMS (back when it was called something else) briefly had a feature
called Party mode that did exactly what you want. That feature was
removed, but it has been re-introduced in LMS 7.8, which is currently in
beta. It is a switchable feature, so you can have either the current
behavior or your
Glad to be of help. Enjoy the music!
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Moisturefarmer wrote:
ARE ANY OLDER VERSIONS OF LMS STILL AVAILABLE TO DOWNLOAD eg. 7.7.2 or
7.7.1
No need to SHOUT, all the versions ever released are here:
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/
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Moisturefarmer wrote:
Is it obligatory for lms to do a complete scan of the music library or
is it ok to abort without completing a scan. Could this be stopping
the failure to start at windows login?
If you want to browse the library by artist, album, genre, new music,
etc then LMS must
In addition to getting something with sufficient horsepower to run LMS,
I would also suggest using something that is sufficiently open to
allow you to install what you want.
Consider this example. There are already changes in LMS 7.8.0 (currently
in beta version) that provide support for TuneIn
danfzx9r wrote:
Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated:confused:
Do it. You'll find running LMS externally much more stable than relying
on the Touch's built-in server.
A Sheevaplug is fine. If you go for a NAS, I would _strongly_ recommend
one that is very open, that is, one that
danfzx9r wrote:
When you say headless pc are you referring to a device like the
Raspberry Pi? If not please point me in the right direction to look into
this option. Thanks!
By headless pc I mean any computer that doesn't have a monitor,
keyboard, or mouse. It could be a Sheevaplug. Or a
garym wrote:
you never owned a 1972 Chevy Vega ;-)
That's a great reality check! My first car was a '71 Vega -- fill the
oil and check the gas!
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Sorry if this is stating the obvious, but it sounds as if the scan isn't
completing successfully. Check the scanner.log -- you can see the
location, and view excerpts, under Settings Information in the LMS web
ui.
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And if a 4gb works good, there shouldn't be any differences with a
larger flash memory the right?
Success at 4GB is no guarantee of success at 128GB. The bigger the
library, the greater the chances of problems with scanning (eg,
incomplete scans).
Is it possible to connect
You have a lot of things going on here. First, the Touch itself has
borderline computing power to run LMS. It will do it, but it is finicky.
It works reliably for some people, but for most it is hit-or-miss, just
as you are experiencing. Second, it has more problems with USB-powered
drives than
pippin wrote:
Now what I _do_ read into this announcement is that they are going to
keep MySB around for (at least) as long as they keep around
UESmartRadio.com which is probably something like two years after the
last one has been sold (otherwise they'd have a serious warranty issue
in
Okay, thanks, that's clearer to me. And I would agree that the
cross-grade is a signal -- albeit a weak one, imo -- that mysb.com may
have a longer lease on life than it did before cross-gradability.
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Ikabob wrote:
Now that Logitech is seemingly supporting the future of mysqueezebox.com
functionality (thank you, thank you!), is there any possibility that
there could be a SBTouch or a SBBoom in the future?
I never say never, but this time I'm very tempted. Logitech has
completely fumbled
Thanks. A picture worth 1000 words and all that.
I've never worked with a setup with multiple drives, but what you have
looks like it should work without shortcuts. In fact, I would suspect it
would work better without shortcuts, since you have explicitly listed
the other drives.
At this point
Some basic questions:
1) what are you putting in the box(es) for Media Folder under LMS
Settings in the web ui?
2) how are you implementing the directory which is allocated to my
media collection? In other words, unless you are listing the five
drives separately in question (1), how are you
thehague wrote:
Thanks for looking into this. Re your questions: please bear in mind
English is not my native language (I'm from The Netherlands) and my LMS
is a Dutch version. I hope I make myself understood nonetheless.
1) I just tick the boxes for music files, not for other media.
2)
Yes, unfortunately that's a major downside to having to depend on the
NAS manufacturer for updates. They generally don't update their firmware
for beta versions of things like LMS.
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touchmatt wrote:
I've tried updating the firmware, but I can't do it automatically. Is
there a update available for the Synology server do you have advice how
I can update it?
Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the Synology family. How do you
normally update LMS? Is it through a Synology
touchmatt wrote:
I'm very sorry for the dumb question, but I can't find this setting on
my server which is installed on a Synology NAS. Can you please explain
where I can set it?
I'm using Logitech Media Server Versie: 7.7.2 - r33893 @ Wed Mar 14
06:37:22 MDT 2012
I believe the setting
P Nelson wrote:
Thanks John!
I did do a search but did not find that thread as I did not think to
search for NTP.
I read through the entire thread and did not understand all the
disucssion, as I don't know linux. If I understood it correctly, Jean
created a NTP client which requires
Read the iPeng info on pippin's web page -- it has way more info than
you could possibly think to ask about. Also be sure to check out the
tutorials. It is feature-rich, but not a substitute for LMS.
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Not sure if this is the issue, but the Touch sends the packet to the
last server to which it was connected. Is it possible that it was most
recently connected to a different server?
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If you can browse by Artist on all other devices, but just not on the
Touch itself, then the problem isn't with the scan, but with the Touch.
First step is to reboot the Touch. Press and release the small button on
the back of the Touch and it will reboot. If that doesn't solve the
problem, then
Luidspreker wrote:
In the tab File sharing and privileges I made user and group readable
and writeable, where ever I could do so (had done this already for
user). This did not help at all. Thanks anyway. I hope that other users
may have an idea.
Whether that works or not depends on your
One more thing to note. In addition to setting the permissions so that
your music and album art files can be read by all users, you need to
make sure that you give all users permission to read _and_\execute\_
the folders in your music library. In the case of folders, execute
means that users can
garym wrote:
it's on the HDD (not the Touch). connect the HDD to the MAC, and
somewhere in the MAC file explorer (or whatever you call it in a Mac)
you tell it to show hidden files/folders.
You may also be able to access the hidden folder via the Mac while the
HDD is still attached to the
jimbobvfr400 wrote:
Well I have a very limited understanding but AFAIK USB speakers would
have to have a DAC of some sort wouldn't they?
Not necessarily. A lot of USB computer speakers use the DAC on the
computer's sound card.
Mnyb wrote:
Realyy can you send analog signals down the USB cable ?!? huh
I dunno, maybe there is a DAC in these US$10 speakers?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836150064Tpk=CA-2016wb
I assumed that if I could electricity down a USB cable (eg, to charge my
phone or iPod)
jfo wrote:
They use a 3.5mm jack to connect to the source. USB is power only it
appears.
Ah, good eye. That explains things for those speakers at least.
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naka9 wrote:
Can anyone recommend a quiet NAS?
Does it have to be quiet? One advantage of using a NAS or a pc instead
of a HDD is that you can locate the NAS or pc far away from your
listening area. I used to keep mine in the basement near the furnace,
now I keep it in the kitchen pantry.
If I remember correctly you can escape the mysb.com sign in with a
left-to-right finger swipe on the Touch's touchscreen. You may also be
able to do it by stepping back using the back arrow in the upper left
corner.
If you have to restart the process, you can improve your luck in not
connecting
Some plugins are lightweight enough that they can run in TinyLMS, but
there is no interface for adding them, so you would have to login to the
Touch and do some manual file copying and probably editing. Other
plugins are too demanding of the Touch's meager resources -- you may be
able to force
I strongly doubt there is any magic tagging combination that will do
what you want within the stock LMS, but maybe Erland's Custom Browse
plugin can do this.
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I don't recall whether this behavior has changed in different versions
of slimserver/SqueezeCenter/Squeezebox Server/Logitech Media Server. But
I'm pretty sure the behavior is consistent across all SB players.
aubuti's
I suspect that what you're doing now is navigating to the playlist and
then selecting Play. One simple way to get what you want is to instead
load the playlist (using Add to End, or Play Next, etc), and then select
the first track in the playlist. It's a few more button pushes and not
One is for computers running Windows Home Server, and the other is for
computers running other flavors of MS Windows.
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No guarantees, but yes, only an ordinary IR emitter is needed. And as
you have observed, there are many.
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jeromeharris wrote:
Please explain. Is service and unc Unix terminology? I'm not
Unix-savvy; I'm running Windows 7 Pro). There was a time when I had some
DOS chops, but they've atrophied as my gray hair came in :).
Nope, they are fairly generic terms that apply to Windows as well as
Unix and
Sorry, but you'll need to explain better what you did and what you lost.
You ran LMS on your laptop, then you returned to LMS (where?) and
logged back into mysb.com? Where are Favorites you're trying to access,
and where is your Touch connected? And where are the Radios connected?
(they can be on
I'm stumped, too. The old desktop only has a little more juice than the
Tranquil, but much faster scans. I want to say it's probably a WHS
issue, but that's only because I don't know anything at all about WHS.
And because the other difference with garym's scan times (which are
around the minor
ChipMonk wrote:
After each of these four stages I did a complete cache cleanup and
overnight scan on my Tranquil BBS2 Atom WHS 2011 server. I have to
report that, within experimental error, the scan times remained pretty
much the same i.e. about six hours for a full scan, about 2 hours for a
garym wrote:
agree. I have both (actually, 3 - ipeng for iphone, ipengHD for ipad,
and squeezepad for ipad). I like them all for different reasons and
agree with Mnyb's general description of the differences.
+1
I first used iPeng, and I initially found the UI a bit counterintuitive
in
Bert57 wrote:
I added L:music to the LMS scan, did a clear and rescan and now have
musicip working.
Great, glad to hear it. Enjoy the music!
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Quite some time ago (maybe LMS 7.7.0??) the M in the web interface
stopped meaning MusicIP mix and started meaning More info. Instead
you need to drill down to track info on the left side of the screen,
where you will find a Create MusicIP mix link. I don't have LMS in
front of me right now to
Okay, then I don't quite understand your push M comment in the OP, but
never mind.
What version of LMS are you running? What do you get when you look at
the MusicIP gui (http://server_ip:10002)? And don't be insulted, but
are you sure the MusicIP plugin is active?
congole wrote:
One could argue that the copies cannot be guranteed to be bit-perfect
accurate (after all, EAC does state some level of 'confidence'),
The number that AccurateRip gives for confidence is the number of
entries in the database that have _exactly_ the same CRC as the rip you
got.
One very important thing you haven't indicated is where you are running
LMS.
The web interface you are trying to use for LMS only works if you are
running LMS on a computer, a NAS (network attached storage) or similar
_external_ device. If you are using the Touch's built-in server (also
known
toby10 wrote:
Without reading the many pages in that blog, where does it say you can
access the Touch's inbuilt server via a web browser?
I see mention of SSH, WinSCP, Putty, etc... which are not web browsers.
Correct. And one of the main principles of soundcheck's blog is that for
optimal
sroux wrote:
Ok so I'm totally wrong. Thanks for making things clear.
I wouldn't say that you're totally wrong, but you do seem to be working
at cross purposes if on the one hand you are (a) running the Touch's
built-in server and (b) applying some of soundcheck's mods (and you
didn't say you
Mnyb wrote:
Nope full LMS is already on there just some stuff turned of in the
startup script, that's because the Touch does not have the memory to run
the full version if it could it would already do that . Touch has no
swap so it would probably crash as soon as someone used the web-UI for
No need whatsoever to run LMS on a USB stick. If you only want to listen
to internet radio then you can simply connect the Touch to
mysqueezebox.com and choose your stations. Then switch back to LMS on
your pc when you want local music.
Or you could use the Touch's built-in version of LMS.
Waldo Pepper wrote:
I assume (maybe wrongly) that the LMS runs on the TOUCH and the radios
link into this.
Your assumption is correct. The Touch runs a version of LMS that has
certain options switched off, such as web interface, support for
plugins, support for really old SB hardware like
castalla wrote:
Are they available because all the devices are using the Touch LMS? I
thought the only globally available favourites were on mysb.com?
Yes, they are available on all devices
_that_are_connected_to_the_local_LMS_, which in this case is the Touch.
But the faves on mysb.com are
I would refine that to say that Track Gain is a bad idea for classical,
or really any music that has a wide dynamic range. And by extension
LMS's Smart Gain would be a bad idea for random tracks of music -- or
playlists with single tracks from a variety of albums -- with wide DR,
although I
Welcome. One important question is whether or not you had volumes
equalized when you did your comparison of WD TV vs. SBT vs. Creative
MP3. Louder will almost always sound better. And from what I've seen a
lot of very good EQ introduces an increase in total gain, so it's
difficult to tell if the
I also have a $5 MOG account that works fine with my SBs. Signed up for
it 6-7 months ago I think.
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The forums' search function is less than optimal, but this has been
discussed at length previously. The short answer is no, the Touch's
built-in server (aka TinySC or TinyLMS) does not support plugins.
A more precise answer is that it can run some plugins if you are able to
install them
snoogly wrote:
Why wouldn't playing a favorite on MySB force a switch to MySB? I can't
quite get my head around that one.
Because the favorite is merely the URL for the internet radio station or
other service you saved, and something that is easily handled by your
local LMS, provided it's
sbellon wrote:
Ouch, I would have thought that it is obvious from my posting that I'm
not serious about what I wrote without the need for irony or sarcasm
tags.
Damn, now you spoiled the fun. Just as it looked as if you had managed
to hook a troll on his own bait. A brilliant post imo,
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