"much cheaper than those sold on ThinkPenguin"
Yes but it's nice to support companies that are trying to do the right thing.
We don't have many of those and it's good to encourage.
ThinkPenguin has such.
If it only happens after checking mail from your proprietary email program
perhaps that seems to point the finger in that direction. Before you say "but
I can still see them in the proprietary program", keep in mind that the
messages that appear in that proprietary program don't necessarily
Look into oathtool: https://www.nongnu.org/oath-toolkit/
You don't say what you want to use 2FA for but here's an example for SSH:
First install libpam-oath and oathtool.
A seed is needed. The seed should be unique for every user. One way to make a
seed: head -10 /dev/urandom | sha512sum |
"Configuration of full-disk encryption using Debian Installer is quite
straightforward. A professional installer should be like this."
Trisquel has the same installer on the netinstall ISO.
Except for the areas with no warning that people accidentally fall into. One
example is that Debian makes no effort to steer people to only free browser
add-ons. Pop open the browser, end up at the default location, and grab
non-free ones without even knowing. I've talked to people that had
"Ultimately, why must you use a stable version? I never recommend personal
users, especially beginners to choose stable version (let alone an LTS one)."
I suppose that excludes Trisquel then since it's both stable and LTS. I go
with stable and LTS because I like my GNU/Linux distros to be
I'm not proposing a different standard. PureOS was an oversight and those
problems should be addressed there too.
Do you mean Uruk would directly use the Ubuntu repositories in the
sources.list? That means would automatically fail
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html
"using the Linux-libre kernel and using Canonical-supported free and
open-source software repositories
In APT look at the first error message, not the last.
The "repository does not contain a Release file" only came up because it
could not download the Release file after the earlier error message:
Could not resolve 'linux-libre.gnulinux.si'
So that is the *real* error. It sounds like there
"Isn't everything in Trisquel's repository required to be "buildable" with
only free software?"
Yes. This should be reported https://trisquel.info/en/project/issues and an
email to report-nonf...@fsf.org so the OP can get a GNU Buck:
https://www.gnu.org/help/gnu-bucks.en.html
"We still do not have to reboot after non-kernel upgrades"
And maybe not even after kernel upgrades either. Rebootless kernel upgrades
are available from Canonical, Red Hat, and others.
"Unfortunately, still crashes happens sometimes due to some Nouveau bug still
unresolved.
I'm talking with Karol Herbst to find a solution but i need more logs."
Hopefully it will be fixed with 5.8 which is due out probably in the latter
part of July. I'm predicting July 19 assuming that
Great! You should see 5.7.5 shortly.
Which kernel version are you using? Can you please share some logs? What is
the make and model of your graphics card?
The same methods for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) should also work here.
While looking on the internet I see that someone made a custom udev rule for
example.
Okay; make it so. There are weekly developer meetings in #trisquel-dev on
irc.freenode.net each Friday.
You can, of course, remove whatever you want - it's your system. It is still
a good idea to leave the old kernel there in case there's something wrong
with the new one. While that may not happen very often (as you say "without
encountering problems") there's always a possibility. There's no
"Are openwrt wifi card fully open source software? Or
is the firmware not open source?"
It depends on the specific hardware.
I have removed that mirror.
> I'm a bit concerned that jxself hasn't responded on that thread at all.
I don't read all threads on the forums and didn't know that "Problems after
upgrade" had anything to do with my APT repository.
The other part I find concerning is that in both of the
So many different levels: Not only is VRMS a complete joke and totally
inaccurate and incomplete anyway, it's also not completely not necessary.
Trisquel doesn't have proprietary software (if you find any it's an accident
- file a bug and it'll be fixed.) If you install such yourself you
"however it still has its name and logo trademarked"
To be sure, trademarks in and of themselves aren't a problem. It only became
a problem when Mozilla included terms for distributing copies of the software
in the trademark license. Trademarks are supposed to identify a source, not
"The biggest question is: Does it even make sense, as a mere student or other
subordinate member of a group, to demand that the whole group change its
habits? It seems futile and arrogant, and disrespectful to others."
Depends on how the issue is framed. We all know why proprietary software
Comparing distro package version numbers to upstream package version numbers
isn't the correct way to determine if a security vulnerability exists within
distro packages like this. Assuming that a program contains a security
problem they are commonly fixed by backporting only the actual
"using"? Trisquel has a number of MTAs available for people to use, including
OpenSMTPD but also Postix and Exim and...
Yes, please follow the instructions at https://jxself.org/linux-libre/
What is the make and model of your WiFi please? lspci or lsusb should say.
"the directory structure of Trisquel"
Specifically for that, see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
I imagine that the build system automatically generates torrents when the
ISOs get made. At the same time they're probably not added to the tracker for
use. So they're pointless/useless.
Please check the archives. The base of Trisquel has been discussed many times
before.
If you have something that needs the kernel headers that can be done by
installing the appropriate -headers package.
I think earlier you installed linux-libre-5.4, so that it would be
linux-libre-5.4-headers. Maybe I should mention this on the website just in
case.
The kernel headers are
"Because, as Chaosmonk points out, getting the latest and greatest kernel
versions isn't that useful for an old 32-bit laptop"
There can still be other benefits, like new (non-hardware) features in the
kernel. An example is how 5.4 has various filesystem improvements.
Would it be a good idea to have an interactive prompt from the package
manager?
I'm thinking perhaps a few different types:
* One might start appearing, say, 30 days before it becomes end-of-life. With
each new version during that time there would be a message with an "OK"
button. Is that
It's probably also worth mentioning that checking GPG signatures is also what
the package manager does when you install programs from the Trisquel repo.
Who knows. Didn't it happen with GNU/Linux Mint?
https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994
Don't forget that kernel.org was also compromised. If someone cracks a server
to replace the downloadable programs they could also replace the checksums if
they live in the same place. The attacker already
It's not helpful when the attacker can both add their own malicious version
and also alter the posted checksums so that they match.
A better option is probably things like GPG signatures. Assuming that you
trust the key (which is a whole different topic with assorted issues) then
you can
If you install linux-image-5.4.2-gnu for example you will forever be stuck on
5.4.2 so that's not what you want to do.
The idea is you don't install the linux-image packages directly but one of
the metapackages, which then pull in the linux-image packages as a
dependency. Those
"(all three were advertised as "works with linux")"
They may be dependent on proprietary firmware, as nadebula.1984 mentioned.
Check out the FSF's RYF program. It seems to contain 3 with external
antennas.
https://ryf.fsf.org/categories/wireless-adapters
Sounds like the keyring package was also removed when the kernel package was
uninstalled. Do:
wget -O - https://jxself.org/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -
Then it probably needs a proprietary program in order to function, which is
why it does not work. It should be possible to confirm this by doing:
dmesg | grep -i deblobbed
And then share the output.
What happens when you try?
"which is a metapackage that always depends on the latest 4.14 kernel, so
you'll get security updates to 4.14 but won't get upgraded to a newer kernel
for as long as 4.14 is supported."
More like "won't get upgraded to a newer kernel ever, even when 4.14 is no
longer supported." Once 4.14
There are a few questions in this. It will take some effort to unpack them
all, so here goes:
There was an announcement back in (I think) April 2018 that LTS kernels would
be supported for 6 years. Well, it turns out that's not entirely true. Well,
maybe it is. What seems to happen is that
I believe that the bug you reported is now fixed in kernel version
5.4.0-gnu-2.0. This has been uploaded to the master server:
http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh/pool/main/l/linux-5.4.0-gnu/
and the mirrors should sync over the next 24 hours.
This does not appear to be a kernel bug. If you'll notice, the problem seems
to be with the init system. When the init system is killed, the kernel does
indeed panic. This is expected behavior. It might be useful to see if there's
anything earlier that wasn't photographed that might explain
Yes it has been broken since February: https://trisquel.info/en/issues/25533
"Which screen saver package should I use"
None. Modern LCD displays don't have the problem of phosphor burn-in. I
instead have the screen set to turn off after being idle for 5 minutes, which
seems more practical.
The drivers come from the kernel and it seems a logical place to start. Part
of troubleshooting is trying out different things. Trying a different kernel
would then help to, if nothing else, rule that out.
Trisquel 9 is in the future. It will be released on Wednesday, March 28, 2362
(old calendar.)
Installation of libreboot is probably https://libreboot.org/ along with
whatever support resources.
Abrowser does have other privacy things turned on like disabling third party
cookies and other things. Try experimenting with various settings.
It appears to be gone but it should be possible to re-create it because all
of the source code still seems to be available via
http://oldarchive.trisquel.info/ along with the corresponding scripts from
https://devel.trisquel.info/ for 5.5 "Brigantia."
Are you able to show up to the Freedom Fridays meeting on IRC in
#trisquel-dev on irc.freenode.net and suggest this?
Correct; I had it stated correctly.
Or instead of encrypting the home directory encrypt the entire drive. Then
you don't need to deal with / and /home being different partitions as they
are showing in your screenshot and then potentially running low on space with
one while the other might still have gobs and gobs of space
Yes, and it's a serious problem. The software freedom dark ages that Bradley
Kuhn has talked about are indeed on their way.
If you want libreboot you are limited to exactly those devices mentioned on
https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/ and no others. If you want any of those
devices the next step is how to find them. I imagine finding them locally may
be hard since they are older but there are companies that
You can try Trisquel 9 but be careful. Is there something specific you need
beyond just "newer packages"? Because these packages in Trisquel 8 still
work.
It can't hurt to try a newer kernel just in case:
https://jxself.org/linux-libre/
Fortunately his latest one there shows he is growing as a person. "I am
grateful for the conversations that enabled me to understand why."
Agreed. There should be some sort of limit to disassociating oneself from
RMS; otherwise the logical conclusion seems to be to remove oneself from
anything he ever had anything to do with at all which would seem to mean that
one has to stop using any free software at all and go use 100%
The reports contain distortions and falsehoods. I urge people to read what he
actually wrote (the full unedited thing and not just quotes from places in
order to see the things in their full context) and think about it.
The FSF is now less for having lost RMS.
Bradley Kuhn has been talking about the problem of corporate cooption for
some years now.
https://invidio.us/watch?v=aUy3uVvVsrU
http://ebb.org/bkuhn/talks/OpenSym-2016/politics.html
It's good to go look up his various talks and listen to them.
Well, it would be helpful to provide the entire output of the package manager
and not just the ending message because that should show the *real* error.
But also, Trisquel 7 is no longer supported so it may be necessary to
reinstall.
What happens if you do Ctrl + Alt + t to open a terminal and type mate-panel
--reset?
Does it exist in Ubuntu? Seems not. Not all GNU/Linux distros can possibly
package every single program that might exist or that might ever be wanted by
someone somewhere. Feel free to help package it up.
They say it doesn't apply to them: "Fedora software in source code and binary
code form are publicly available and are not subject to the EAR in accordance
with ยง742.15(b)." Most of GitHub is probably also "publicly available" too
and exempt. But, Microsoft takes it further than they need
Right. Some programs need to be modified and the Helpers do that so that: The
kernel needs to have blobs removed, Firefox needs to be rebranded into
Abrowser (along with privacy changes made), Ubuntu branding needs to be
changed, and more. In this way a person doesn't need to do these tasks
There may be a slight misunderstanding. That's not quite what I was
mentioning. Let's back up for a moment to what nadebula.1984 said.
nadebula.1984's original statement that I was responding to about was exactly
this: "I can publish a GNU GPL v3-or-Later licensed free/libre software, but
"can also explicitly prohibit anyone from using it without violating GNU GPL"
A point of order: Publishing a program under the GPLv3 and including that
would probably be a "further restriction" within the meaning of section 10 of
GPLv3.
This seems similar to what happens when programs are
"The end"? GitHub's been proprietary since the beginning so there never was
any freedom to be lost in the first place.
"These are for desktops and servers, correct?"
Right; that's why I say "if you're willing to give up the laptop form factor"
"Mainly, just wanting to make sure that OSes like Trisquel will run."
Check out ThinkPenguin then. Some of the money goes to support Trisquel if
you buy it using the
"Intel iCore Series or newer"
Software freedom and this are mutually exclusive, so please pick one or the
other.
Newer Intel machine have fatal freedom problems:
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#intel
If you're willing to give up the laptop form factor you can get some powerful
machines
"Maybe there are some efforts underway, but nothing is official yet. Just
because there is no image to download does not mean, that packages are not
build for other architectures."
In this case it does: Trisquel only supports only x86 right now. Trisquel 9
is supposed to have support for
Because sudo doesn't carry over: In the example command you gave, gpg using
being run as root but when piped into apt-key, apt-key is running as you and
not root. The correct way would be to put the sudo after the pipe, resulting
in:
gpg --export A3C4F0F979CAA22CDBA8F512EE8CBC9E886DDD89 |
Although installing some sort of "control panel"-type of software also
abstracts away pieces and can hinder learning because all you're doing is
click on a button that says "do it." Especially when someone's new and is
interested in learning things, as GNUbahn seems to be.
But if GNUbahn
You're missing the program named curl. That's why it says it's not found.
Because it's not there. :) The package manager can be used to install it.
"What CPU instruction set architectures (ISAs) does Trisquel support today?
If I go to the download page today, I can only download images for Intel/AMD
32 bit or 64 bit CPU's. Are those the only two supported CPU ISAs?"
Sounds like you found your answer. :)
Trisquel 9 is supposed to have
You're stuck with either looking for an older version of Electrum that will
work with your version of Python or installing a new Python. Good luck.
Python 3 is also available in Trisquel.
Try making a request to the Debian people about it through their bug tracker.
No. The firmware was never added in the kernel to begin with; it's a separate
package to install.
That's because the firmware used to be non-free. And get this: Even though
the free firmware appeared in March 2013 -- over 6 years ago -- the free
version only appeared in a Debian release with version 10, Buster. So much
for a distro that's supposed to care about matters such as software
"The graphical ISO has a "text install" option that is the same thing as a
netinstall."
Yes, I didn't mention it because it too is borked.
The Trisquel netinstalls are currently broken and have been for months:
https://trisquel.info/en/issues/25533
It's sad; it means there's no way to do a minimal install currently. Your
options are to use the graphical installer and then maybe remove packages
after the install's done, install
Sure. But don't just take our word for it: You can experiment you know and
learn from experience. :)
To start off with a web server install Apache. sudo apt install apache2 ta
da.
Yes, that's why. Your WiFi card needs proprietary software in order to
operate, which Trisquel doesn't provide.
If you don't want to open the computer to replace the WiFi card an easy
option is getting a USB WiFi like this one, which does not need proprietary
software:
Trisquel has to have its own repositories for a multiple reasons. Here's one,
from https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html to
quote:
"A free system distribution must not steer users towards obtaining any
nonfree information for practical use, or encourage them
Imagine you have a program running on your computer. Now, use your
imagination to transfer that same program to (say) your WiFi card or your
HDD/SSD and run it there. Because yes - those things have CPUs in them with
RAM and are full computers in their own right. Some, like your HDD/SSD even
"The books will stop working."
I am reminded of The Right to Read:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html
As time goes on Stallman gets proven to be correct over and over again.
Would it be helpful if I had 4.4 in my kernel repository too so as to match
versions? Currently the oldest one in there is 4.14.
I mean, 4.4 is already available in a way by being in the separate
extended-term support (ETS) repository since it's supported for 6 years. But
no one seems
Please read and follow the Community Guidelines:
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-community-guidelines
Our community's resources -- the forum, documentation, etc -- are for free
software only. We do not support non-free software (Citrix, Windows) here.
My favorite terminal would be: https://invidio.us/watch?v=g8h2SenYOKc
Don't forget that terminal refers to the actual hardware because hey; that's
what they were. (Everyone seems to forget this.) That's why I refer to the
physical thing. Perhaps you mean the software, which is the shell. And
"It doesn't have HDMI, only VGA"
There are VGA to HDMI adapters. The usually also come with an audio plug so
that the audio & video then get combined into the HDMI signal with the
adapter (since HDMI bundles audio and video) and then shipped out through the
adapter.
"Can Trisquel share screen/video wirelessly?"
Such a broad topic.
https://blogs.gnome.org/benzea/2019/01/30/gnome-screencast/
Requires a Miracast-compatible device and is too new for Trisquel to have it.
Maybe another option is to look into aethercast.
There are also wireless HDMI
"Any ideas as to why the install can't see the disk?"
Probably a kernel thing.
"Ubuntu's install, recognizes the internal drive."
Which Ubuntu version? And which Trisquel version? Trisquel 8 is based on
Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus.) Did you try that specific Ubuntu version for
Some quick searching on the internet brought up
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1816429
It may not be precisely the same problem but it can't hurt to try a newer
kernel to see. It can always be removed.
https://jxself.org/linux-libre/
Kernel support for this has existed for several years already. Can you please
give more information about what is driving your question?
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