[Bug 1867465] Re: Installer disconnects wifi (after choosing download while installing, 3rd party)

2021-05-27 Thread MarkF
@Piotr, I've given up on this. I was less concerned about security than I was about the user experience. If the installer knows it's going to drop the connection, why not inform the user of this? It's really unnerving to have your connection drop, and think there's some kind of bug going on. It's

[Bug 1867465] Re: Installer disconnects wifi (after choosing download while installing, 3rd party)

2020-06-18 Thread MarkF
I appreciate everyone's time looking into this. I just wanted to add: if it is a driver problem, and can't be any better than that, I still think it would be friendlier if the installer informed the user that "a new driver is available. Your connection will disconnect while this driver is

[Bug 1867465] Re: Installer disconnects wifi (after choosing download while installing, 3rd party)

2020-04-20 Thread MarkF
@Steve Langasek, thank you for your time triaging that. I was thinking the problem is that the installer doesn't handle this in a user-friendly way. From my perspective the installer should: 1. Inform the user that it located a possibly better driver, and the connection will drop. (In my case, I

[Bug 1869259] [NEW] Studio daily image can't find vmlinuz..

2020-03-26 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 Studio daily image (20200326). Booting shows an error "/boot not found". Eventually it reaches the Grub menu. Choosing "Try" results in "can't find vmlinuz". I believe the first time I booted this USB stick, it hung with more of an error before reaching the

[Bug 1868191] Re: Unchecking all optional media apps, install fails

2020-03-26 Thread MarkF
IMPORTANT: this bug-report DIFFERS FROM #1851346 in one important way: The INSTALLER FAILS, not merely goes slow. ALSO, it DOESN'T MERELY FAIL. It (essentially) FAILS WITHOUT NOTICE (unless the user is watching the the entire (and now-slow installation). If they return from doing something else,

[Bug 1851346] Re: Ubuntu Studio 19.10 Installer Causes Wanted Programs to be Removed

2020-03-26 Thread MarkF
I experienced the same thing. However, I also experienced the installer FAILING with a brief "oopsie" msg. When I rebooted, I was presented with a COMMAND-LINE LOGIN PROMPT. In my case, I unchecked ALL optional programs. That might not be something anyone would normally do. Therefore, it might

[Bug 1867658] Re: Booting install media, pressing "s" to skip media check is ignored

2020-03-25 Thread MarkF
@corrado (msg #4), it sounds like you're using Ubuntu desktop. That problem is different (I've experienced it too), and apparently reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1867130 You can click "affects me" on that bug. (I think Budgie's problem is fixed. I need to

[Bug 1868885] [NEW] Deleting known wifi connection fails but completes

2020-03-24 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 Kubuntu daily-image (20200324). I connect to two access points. I want to delete one of them. I go to System Settings->Network->Connections, right click on the unwanted wifi connection, and choose "delete." A msg says "Failed to remove -- error checking

[Bug 1868646] Re: "Try it" installs kwallet differently than "Install now"

2020-03-24 Thread MarkF
** Description changed: ISO testing 20.04 Kubuntu daily image (20200323). Something involving Kwallet & wifi is installed differently depending on whether I take the - path "Try it" (install from Live desktop), or "Install now." + path "Try Kubuntu" (install from Live desktop), or "Install

[Bug 1868646] Re: "Try it" installs kwallet differently than "Install now"

2020-03-24 Thread MarkF
** Description changed: ISO testing 20.04 Kubuntu daily image (20200323). Something involving Kwallet & wifi is installed differently depending on whether I take the path "Try it" (install from Live desktop), or "Install now." - 1. When I install from the Live Desktop (after clicking

[Bug 1868646] Re: "Try it" installs kwallet differently than "Install now"

2020-03-24 Thread MarkF
** Description changed: ISO testing 20.04 Kubuntu daily image (20200323). Something involving Kwallet & wifi is installed differently depending on whether I take the - path "try it" (and install from Live desktop), or "install now." + path "Try it" (install from Live desktop), or "Install

[Bug 1868646] [NEW] "Try it" installs kwallet differently than "Install now"

2020-03-23 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 Kubuntu daily image (20200323). Something involving Kwallet & wifi is installed differently depending on whether I take the path "try it" (and install from Live desktop), or "install now." 1. When I install from the Live Desktop (after clicking "try it,"

[Bug 1867465] Re: Installer disconnects wifi (after choosing download while installing, 3rd party)

2020-03-21 Thread MarkF
@Erich, sorry for replying twice. Let me put it this way. Whatever you guys decide is fine with me. >From the user's perspective they don't have a "hardware issue." Everything's working. The installer tries to help the user in a way the user isn't aware they need help. It could be very useful

[Bug 1867465] Re: Installer disconnects wifi (after choosing download while installing, 3rd party)

2020-03-21 Thread MarkF
@Erich, the hardware works fine except during that screen transition. If the installer is replacing the 3rd party driver at that point, it seems reasonable to expect some communication that the connection is going to be dropped (maybe reconnect for the user). The user was just asked whether to

[Bug 1868410] [NEW] Menu->Audio Production is not sorted

2020-03-21 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 Studio daily-image (20200321). In the Live desktop, clicking the menu, and sub-menu "Audio Production," the contents are not sorted. The other menu categories' contents are sorted. This may be related to 186800, which I opened for Budgie. Its utilities

[Bug 1867465] Re: Installer disconnects wifi (after choosing download while installing, 3rd party)

2020-03-21 Thread MarkF
@Jeremy, I'm sorry I haven't returned sooner. I've been keeping an eye on how this works (and have experienced it again today with Budgue & Kubuntu 20200321). Are you saying that it is downloading and installing that particular driver when I click "continue" from the installer page saying

[Bug 1868400] [NEW] Start menu->System is not sorted

2020-03-21 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 Budgie daily-image (20200321), I was looking for gparted. I clicked on the category view, clicked on utilities. The list of items isn't sorted. I know Budgie is different (like a mac?). But, the other categories seemed to be sorted. And, "utilities" is

[Bug 1868289] Re: Cancel install leaves icon in task tray

2020-03-21 Thread MarkF
FYI: Installing 20.04 Mate daily image (20200321), I noticed two bluetooth icons in the task tray. That seemed similar to the accumulated blue installer icons. I've probably seen those bluetooth icons before and didn't think much of it. The only reason I reported the blue installer icons was

[Bug 1868292] Re: Install "failed to install grub" (automatic crash report failed to connect to crash database)

2020-03-21 Thread MarkF
UPDATE: I have encountered this error again (but it's different, too). It appears the installer (when auto-resizing the existing disk, installing "alongside,") has trouble when the disk is MBR/msdos & the computer is UEFI-only. Yesterday (when I first experienced the "failed to install grub"

[Bug 1867534] Re: Wifi requires interruption before timing out (and immediate reconnect attempt succeeds)

2020-03-20 Thread MarkF
UPDATE: This wifi behavior happens with all the Ubuntu desktop distros. HOWEVER: I just installed 20.04 Ubuntu Server daily-image (20200320). It did NOT have this behavior. As I began the text-based install, I wondered how I would interrupt the connection in order to make it work. But, it just

[Bug 1868292] Re: Install "failed to install grub" (automatic crash report failed to connect to crash database)

2020-03-20 Thread MarkF
Additional info: I rebooted the LiveUSB, and tried installing again using "entire disk" (instead of "alongside/resize" the first time, which failed). It installed without error. I can try the "alongside" again using tomorrow's daily image. Maybe it was specific to that. (I have installed Mate's

[Bug 1868292] [NEW] Install "failed to install grub" (automatic crash report failed to connect to crash database)

2020-03-20 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 Mate daily-image (20200320). The installer failed with a msg about being unable to install grub on sda2. I didn't spend much time memorizing the error msg because it said it would automatically report the crash. But, that process failed saying it was unable

[Bug 1868289] [NEW] Cancel install leaves icon in task tray

2020-03-20 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 Mate daily image (20200320). When I cancel the install, it leaves a blue cicle (white person, arms outstretched) in the task tray. I have started the installer four times, and have four of those in the task tray now. Probably not a big problem. I just

[Bug 1868191] [NEW] Unchecking all optional media apps, install fails

2020-03-19 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 Studio's daily image (20200319). A screen appears with about a dozen various media/photography apps which are checkmarked. I am invited to uncheck any or all. I unchecked all. The install fails near the end. There is an "oopsie" msg which disappears, and the

[Bug 1867826] Re: Press "Cancel" button during initial "waiting on 16 modules to load" causes Calamares to hang

2020-03-18 Thread MarkF
I am able to recreate this error on a Ryzen 5/Vega 8 laptop[1]. I had to hit the "cancel" button very fast (being disconnected from wifi seems to help slow the Calamares process down, and make it easier to click cancel soon enough to cause the hang.). The machine I first reported this bug on is

[Bug 1867658] Re: Booting install media, pressing "s" to skip media check is ignored

2020-03-18 Thread MarkF
Today's 20.04 Budgie daily image (20200318) recognized "s" during media check during the small-file checks. (I think the large file check isn't responsive to that key press. But, all the *buntu flavors act that way.). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,

[Bug 1867845] Re: Clicking "install" icon from Live desktop does nothing

2020-03-18 Thread MarkF
Update: I installed Budgie 20200318. It didn't have this problem reported with the 20200317. (I also installed Mate 20200318. It didn't have a problem. Confirming Bill's comment.). It seems like this was a one-day glitch. It's gone. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member

[Bug 1867845] Re: Clicking "install" icon from Live desktop does nothing

2020-03-17 Thread MarkF
UPDATE: The reported problem doesn't exist in Xubuntu's next 20200318 daily image. I haven't tested Budgie yet. I assume this problem is gone. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1867845

[Bug 1867845] Re: Clicking "install" icon from Live desktop does nothing

2020-03-17 Thread MarkF
I had the reported behavior with today's Budgie daily image. I tried installing today's daily image using both UEFI & CSM bios settings. That didn't make a difference. I have installed Xubuntu & Budgie to this laptop before. The last time was March 3. -- You received this bug notification

[Bug 1867845] [NEW] Clicking "install" icon from Live desktop does nothing

2020-03-17 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 Xubuntu daily image 20200317. Live desktop boots. But, clicking the icon to install does nothing. I see the usb flash drive's activity light flicker for 5-10 seconds. But, nothing happens. I ran the launcher command from the command line. But, no msgs were

[Bug 1867826] [NEW] Press "Cancel" button during initial "waiting on 16 modules to load" causes Calamares to hang

2020-03-17 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 Lubuntu daily image (20200317). If I click the "Cancel" button while Calamares is starting up, displaying the "waiting on n modules to load... 4 seconds," it hangs. Even right-clicking the Calamares placeholder in the taskbar, and "close" doesn't entirely

[Bug 1867658] [NEW] Booting install media, pressing "s" to skip media check is ignored

2020-03-16 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 daily image for Budgie 20200316. During boot of install media, the media-validation step ignores "s" to skip. Other *buntu flavors ignore "s" during a lengthy check of a large squash file. But, Budgie is ignoring it even as it cycles through small files.

[Bug 1864787] Re: Lubuntu failed install "sfdisk --force --append /dev/sda"

2020-03-15 Thread MarkF
I encountered this today on two machines.[1] In both cases I was trying to install 20.04 Lubuntu daily image using the "alongside" option. In both cases it failed with the error msg reported for this bug. But, when I restarted the installer, it showed the existing partition resized, and a new

[Bug 1867161] Re: Live desktop: KSystemLog opens off the right side of the screen

2020-03-15 Thread MarkF
Update: I am seeing this same mistaken external monitor on an older Dell XPS 501X[1] laptop too. Opening any application (System Settings; Konsole) opens the window off the right-hand side of the laptop's screen. I have to right click the taskbar and choose to move the window from there. Those

[Bug 1867534] Re: Wifi requires interruption before timing out (and immediate reconnect attempt succeeds)

2020-03-15 Thread MarkF
This bug was reported from the Live desktop. After installing & rebooting Lubuntu, it behaves the much the same way. Letting the wifi connection-attempt timeout results in a "connection lost" and "connection established" balloon msg (together on the screen). Subsequent reboots don't seem to

[Bug 1867534] [NEW] Wifi requires interruption before timing out (and immediate reconnect attempt succeeds)

2020-03-15 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 Lubuntu daily (20200315). From the Live desktop, I click my nm-tray access point, supply the password. nm-tray will timeout. Trying again will timeout. What works is clicking the same access point a couple times before it times out. This causes an immediate

[Bug 1867465] Re: Installer disconnects wifi (after choosing download while installing, 3rd party)

2020-03-14 Thread MarkF
FYI: I get the same wifi-disconnect with today's Xubuntu daily image. FWIW: I also tested today's daily image for Kubuntu, Mate & Budgie (and Lubuntu). I didn't have this experience with them. As mentioned previously, Lubuntu had a problem connecting to wifi after rebooting (when install was

[Bug 1867465] [NEW] Installer disconnects wifi (after choosing download while installing, 3rd party)

2020-03-14 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: ISO testing 20.04 daily 20200314. On the Live desktop I connect to wifi. When I click the install icon, and choose to install 3rd party (leaving download while installing checked), the wifi disconnects. I rebooted and tried again to make sure it wasn't something random. (It

[Bug 1867453] [NEW] Wifi password prompt does not put cursor in text field.

2020-03-14 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: Testing 20.04 daily image for Ubuntu-Budgie. I've seen this with every daily I've tested. Click the wifi icon on the task tray. A window opens to accept the access-point's password. The user starts typing, and realizes nothing's happening because the cursor is somewhere else.

[Bug 966480] Re: The prompt asking for media removal is not shown at the end of the installation

2020-03-14 Thread MarkF
This may be related. I've noticed the past few days that the Ubuntu desktop daily image is being generated even though nothing has changed. For example, today the QA Tracker says 03-14 is available. But, zsynch says no data is downloaded (compared to the last one I had). When I run: strings

[Bug 966480] Re: The prompt asking for media removal is not shown at the end of the installation

2020-03-14 Thread MarkF
I've been seeing this for the past 4-6 days. I've also noticed that the new media check (during startup) doesn't appear on the screen. It seemed to me the shutdown msg becoming unseen happened at the same time the media check became unseen. In both cases, what I see is my bios's splash screen.

[Bug 1867161] Re: Live desktop: KSystemLog opens off the right side of the screen

2020-03-13 Thread MarkF
Update: This seems to be specific to the old Dell XPS L502X laptop. I booted the next daily image (20200313) on a new Asus Ryzen 5/Vega 8 laptop, and Kubuntu didn't detect an external monitor. (I booted that daily on the L502X and it again believed there is a VGA screen next to the laptop

[Bug 1867161] [NEW] Live desktop: KSystemLog opens off the right side of the screen

2020-03-12 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: Testing 20.04 daily image (20200312). Booted LiveUSB to Live desktop. Executed KSystemLog from start->applications->system. The window opened off the right side of the screen. The only reason I saw it was because I clicked the item on the taskbar at the bottom of the desktop.

[Bug 1865949] Re: nm-tray silently fails with bad wifi password; saves connection

2020-03-04 Thread MarkF
Good news. I found the problem. It's entirely related to passphrase length. - If I type a passphrase less than 8 characters long: I get the behavior I reported (it appears nothing happens, no activity indicator, no balloon error msg, nothing in the msg tray. But, the failed connection is saved as

[Bug 1865949] Re: nm-tray silently fails with bad wifi password; saves connection

2020-03-04 Thread MarkF
FYI: I booted 20200303 Lubuntu daily on a i7-2630QM 2.0ghz; NVIDIA GeForce GT540M 2GB; Intel Centrino 6230 (Dell XPS L502X laptop). It has the same behavior I reported in this bug. In an hour or two I will try 20200404. I'm hoping this is just a glitch in the copy I have (but, I did burn it to

[Bug 1865949] Re: nm-tray silently fails with bad wifi password; saves connection

2020-03-04 Thread MarkF
@Chris, can you be more specific about what you did to get the failure balloon? Did you left click nm-tray, click the non-hidden SSID, type a bad password? This bug report is a little confusing because that's what I reported. But, there's a lot of examples about it working differently if accessed

[Bug 1865949] Re: nm-tray silently fails with bad wifi password; saves connection

2020-03-03 Thread MarkF
@Chris, I did add the log info in #11 (one before yours). I do see a "connection established" balloon when I use the correct passphrase. But, I don't see a failure balloon when I use the wrong passphrase. I have to believe it's something screwy with my iso, how it was burned. Something that

[Bug 1865949] Re: nm-tray silently fails with bad wifi password; saves connection

2020-03-03 Thread MarkF
I just booted Lubuntu 20200303 (same LiveUSB I've been testing throughout all this). I started journalctl. I then clicked nm-tray, clicked the access point, and this is what appeared: start Mar 04 07:02:44 lubuntu NetworkManager[1632]: [1583305364.9596] device (wlp4s0):

[Bug 1865949] Re: nm-tray silently fails with bad wifi password; saves connection

2020-03-03 Thread MarkF
I left click on nm-tray, choose my wifi access point, enter an incorrect passphrase. Maybe the difference is that you're using a hidden ssid, and have to go to network connections to get the job done? I'm doing the more normal(?) choice of available access points from nm-tray. I only right-click

[Bug 1865949] Re: nm-tray silently fails with bad wifi password; saves connection

2020-03-03 Thread MarkF
FYI: I have a Ryzen 3 with intel wireless. I booted the Lubuntu 20200303 image on it. Same behavior. There's no progress or error message about being unable to connect. I don't know why my experience is different on 3 computers than you guys'. I've verified the iso checksum. The file-verification

[Bug 1865949] Re: nm-tray silently fails with bad wifi password; saves connection

2020-03-03 Thread MarkF
@Chris, I'm not having the same experience as you. I enter an invalid passphrase, nothing happens. No connection-lost msg. And, it saves the failed connection. The only msg I see is when I fix the password and it connects successfully. It doesn't appear to be machine dependent (although, both the

[Bug 1865949] Re: nm-tray silently fails with bad wifi password; saves connection

2020-03-03 Thread MarkF
@Dan, I just tried the same 20200303 Lubuntu image on a Ryzen 5 machine. It had the same behavior as reported on the old Toshiba. I click on nm- tray, choose my wifi access point, enter an incorrect passphrase. Nothing happens. No message that the connection was attempted/failed. That access point

[Bug 1865955] [NEW] Calamares warns "no ESP flag set, " but there is no ESP flag to choose

2020-03-03 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: Testing Lubuntu 20.04 (2020-03-03 daily image) I selected manual partioning. When I clicked "next," I received a warning that no partition was flagged ESP. When I went back to fix that, there were no flags available named ESP. Apparently "boot" is the flag to satisfy this

[Bug 1865949] [NEW] nm-tray silently fails with bad wifi password; saves connection

2020-03-03 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: Testing Lubuntu 20.04 daily image (2020-03-03).In Live desktop I clicked nm-tray, chose a wifi access point, typed the password incorrectly. Nm- tray silently failed. No msg that the connection failed. It also kept that access point as a "known connection". Clicking that

[Bug 1865381] [NEW] Erroneous screen-saver entries at top of list

2020-03-01 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: Screensaver Preferences (XScreenSaver 5.42, 28-Dec-2018) shows two grayed-out items in the list of available screensavers. These are at the top of the list. They are named 14.0985 & 26.3163. Clicking those items causes some errors, and a black screen. (Pressing any key gets

[Bug 1862527] Re: Lubuntu 20.04 daily build (2020-02-08) Won't boot LiveUSB

2020-02-24 Thread MarkF
UPDATE: I tested Lubuntu 20.04 daily image 20200223, and the problem reported in this bug-report doesn't exist anymore. I have marked the status "fix released." I assume that's the proper way to close this. (If not, sorry.). ** Changed in: syslinux (Ubuntu) Status: New => Fix Released --

[Bug 1862527] [NEW] Lubuntu 20.04 daily build (2020-02-08) Won't boot LiveUSB

2020-02-09 Thread MarkF
Public bug reported: When choosing the first Grub option to start Lubuntu, I immediately get the error and it hangs: [0:nn] pci: :00:00.2 AMD-ViL Unable to write to IOMMU perf counter. - Choosing the Grub option to "check disc for defects," results in the same error/hang. -

[Bug 1782984] Re: PCManFM crashes frequently on Lubuntu 18.04

2018-12-20 Thread MarkF
Just another FYI. PCManFM crashed again. I was right clicking to create a new folder. When I typed the folder name and clicked "Ok," the desktop disappeared, and came back (I didn't have to start PCManFM from the command line, like I have had to do in the past). But, no new folder was created.

[Bug 1782984] Re: PCManFM crashes frequently on Lubuntu 18.04

2018-12-13 Thread MarkF
FYI: PCManFM hasn't crashed since I uninstalled the flatpack-installed version of GIMP 2.10.8 (and installed a PPA served apt-get package). I did that thinking it might fix my GIMP crashes which began with 2.10.x (when I installed Lubuntu 18.04). It did fix that. But, I haven't had a PCManFM crash

[Bug 1782984] Re: PCManFM crashes frequently on Lubuntu 18.04

2018-12-01 Thread MarkF
@Janos, I want to confirm that your experience with GIMP is backwards from mine. I ran GIMP 2.8 the whole time I was on the older Lubuntu (described in my first comment, 3 comments above) which PCManFM crashed all the time. GIMP was fine for me then. When I installed Lubuntu 18.04 (fresh install)

[Bug 1782984] Re: PCManFM crashes frequently on Lubuntu 18.04

2018-11-30 Thread MarkF
As mentioned in the previous msg, I am stracing PCManFM (1.2.5) and it finally crashed. Attached are the last 12k lines from strace, about 25 seconds. I CTRL-break'ed out of it within 4-10 seconds. I was a little slow, being in the middle of the previous message, trying shift my thoughts to what

[Bug 1782984] Re: PCManFM crashes frequently on Lubuntu 18.04

2018-11-30 Thread MarkF
I'm also having this problem. I reported it on Lubuntu-Users mailing list.[1] Walter referred me to this bug report. I am running strace[2]. I am pretty darn sure this began with 17.04.[3] I mentioned on the Lubuntu mailing list that I had developed a "feeling" (after living with it for almost a