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Ittay Dror wrote:
So what you are saying is that since everything is working fine for you,
then it means nothing is wrong with Linux and I have a perception
problem. So everything is fine with Linux if not for the perception
issue? I think not.
I think you keep missing my point. Lets say
So what you are saying is that since everything is working fine for you,
then it means nothing is wrong with Linux and I have a perception
problem. So everything is fine with Linux if not for the perception
issue? I think not.
Btw, For some reason, I can't suspend to ram any more. Either X
I haven't heard of the BestOSAbout 3000 yet. Chances are, you'll find other
issues elsewhere too.
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This really shows that we have a perception problem. I am addressing
your issues, not to attack you, but to show you other answers. The real
question is why you did not see them.
Why do you dismiss this as a problem of perception and not a real
problem? Do you
Ittay Dror wrote:
houstonbofh wrote:
This really shows that we have a perception problem. I am addressing
your issues, not to attack you, but to show you other answers. The real
question is why you did not see them.
Why do you dismiss this as a problem of perception and not a real
FWIW, here is my opinion why this bug is not on it's way of being
resolved.
Ever since Ubuntu 8.04 I have seen a regression in how usable the distribution
is for me:
1. It uses a lot of memory: I had to upgrade my memory recently since 2GB were
not enough for 4 applications (thunderbird,
This really shows that we have a perception problem. I am addressing
your issues, not to attack you, but to show you other answers. The real
question is why you did not see them.
Ittay Dror wrote:
Ever since Ubuntu 8.04 I have seen a regression in how usable the
distribution is for me:
1.
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shane fagan wrote:
I dont think its their fault entirely. The fact is they dont need a
community behind them like the FLOSS community.
We rely on the help of all corners of the community to make our software the
best, Microsoft dont.
Its very easy to say they arent
I dont think its their fault entirely. The fact is they dont need a community
behind them like the FLOSS community.
We rely on the help of all corners of the community to make our software the
best, Microsoft dont.
Its very easy to say they arent cool but they dont need to be cool.
We need to
Aaargh more friends? Lol quickly runs back to microsquish
I am testing Windows7 as well, and it is not that bad (and better than Vista
anyway).
But Microsoft does not have any kind of community Linux has.
Pray tell me, any Windows website that involves Windows users as much as we
connect
Grassroots communities will always have more passion for the cause than
top-down, prefabricated and profit-oriented products. That's the nature
of things and both have their good and bad sides. I know who I'll stick
with ;)
Dne 20.05.2009 (sre) ob 17:04 + je bert07 zapisal(a):
Amir E.
shane fagan wrote:
I dont think its their fault entirely. The fact is they dont need a community
behind them like the FLOSS community.
We rely on the help of all corners of the community to make our software the
best, Microsoft dont.
Its very easy to say they arent cool but they dont
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 19:33, bert07 marien.b...@telenet.be wrote:
But Microsoft does not have any kind of community Linux has.
Pray tell me, any Windows website that involves Windows users as much as we
connect through Linux (or BSD)..
MSDN and other Visual Studio-centric forums is a very
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 20:04, bert07 marien.b...@telenet.be wrote:
Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
MSDN and other Visual Studio-centric forums is a very large community.
However, no matter how hard Microsoft tries, it will never be half as
cool.
I must say: I didn't know about that site.
OK -
Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
MSDN and other Visual Studio-centric forums is a very large community.
However, no matter how hard Microsoft tries, it will never be half as
cool.
I must say: I didn't know about that site.
But it IS true that any Linux (or BSD) community is more alive than
Windows
Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 20:04, bert07 marien.b...@telenet.be wrote:
Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
MSDN and other Visual Studio-centric forums is a very large community.
However, no matter how hard Microsoft tries, it will never be half as
cool.
I must
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Michael Brown
michaelbrown2...@gmail.com wrote:
im seeing more and more vendors offer systems with ubuntu and other
linux distros. i agree with bert07 that they are finally starting to see
the linux community.
Speaking of vendors who are starting to see the
Conrad Knauer wrote:
My prediction is that companies which decide to put Windows 7 Starter
(limited to 3 concurrent applications... can we say crippleware? ;)
on netbooks are going to have unhappy customers and low sales, those
who continue to preload XP will continue to do well and those that
im seeing more and more vendors offer systems with ubuntu and other
linux distros. i agree with bert07 that they are finally starting to see
the linux community.
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Aaargh more friends? Lol quickly runs back to microsquish
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The vendors finally start to notice the Linux community.
Both vendors and community are working hard on getting hardware recognized
under Linux.
Before long evry one can install any Linux system without any problems on any
system. (Mind you, it might still take up to 5, 6, 1o years.
But when
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 5:26 AM, mr_willem wil...@crossbone.org wrote:
First of all, I want to tell that this bug is also very widespread in
germany.
I note that the browser market share (as per StatCounter) in Germany
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-DE-daily-20080701-20090329
is
Conrad Knauer wrote:
There is no mystery (no somehow) as to why NVIDIA drivers are
rejected by the community; they are closed-source. If you want to
argue that performance-ends justifies the licensing-means, then we
might as well all switch to Macs
This is like saying if you don't like the
This bug is also in NZ. There is almost no computer place which has
their computers with free software pre-installed.
I am working on this bug.
I am only 14 yrs old and have converted 11 family computers to free
software. (Ubuntu etc.)
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First of all, I want to tell that this bug is also very widespread in
germany.
I am using Linux now for about 12 to 15 years now and I want to compliment all
the developers that made it such a wonderful operating system. Since I used it
for such a long time I saw lot's of improvements in
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I like the style :)
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We should start an campaign to kill #1
I posted some ideas for an banner we should spread on all the sites
http://gist.github.com/75033
also here is my idea inspired from kill ie6 campaign
http://mapopa.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-kill-windows-and-ie-first-
step.html
imagine if we put these
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Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
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Serious work is being done in the United Kingdom as well too (
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7910110.stm ). Just one of the
most recent things I have seen on BBC that mentions open source as of
late.
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@Mark:
I like the idea of a 'Free Your PC Day' or whole 'Free Your PC'
campeign in general. We should put some serious planning into it and
see if we can get some help from Canonical and the LoCos. I'm all for
it. I don't know if I'm qualified enough to organize it, but I'm sure
willing to
Geniuses? Geniei, Gen aaarrgh @#$% english
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Ubuntu is good. I like it. I try to spread the word.Other people like it
too. People that dont like it have driver problems. They voice their
opinions more then the people that are satisfied. Just how it is. Get people
to voice how good ubuntu is. Problem solved. Many people dont think that the
How about a 'Free your PC campaign'?
it starts
Billions of PC's worldwide are chained with expensive worm and virus prone
software...
sad music playing...
Free your PC...
jazz with blaring trumpets playing...
Ubuntu and other Distro logos splash on the screen...
Happy People run through the surf
This bug is critical in Hong Kong.
When I go to large stores, every PC comes with Microsoft Windows Vista 32-bit
pre-installed.
When I go to small shops, the specification lists usually don't include the
operating system but you may add HK$ 699 to get a copy of Microsoft Windows
Vista/XP
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Thanks for your comments John, (see his blog: http://john-os.blogspot.com/ )
Some of us here see things a little differently. First, although Microsoft
Corp., is not evil please ask yourself why so many fines and lawsuits have
gone against the company in the last 5 years see:
@Allen Graham:
The way I see it is that Microsoft has a huge team of marketing
geniuses that got them to the state of where lawsuits had to be
imposed upon them for their monopolistic tactics. If Microsoft
believed in open source as much as we do, they would be leading 'the
revolution' as people
@Draeath:
If this bug did not exist, the Linux movement as we know it today
wouldn't exist or at least would be scattered and not really have any
support behind it.
Microsoft and/or Windows is not bad or evil, it's just that Microsoft
has this notion of bullying the OEMs to make hardware that
Wow, this bug simply existing, certainly shows a lot of professionalism.
I vote this bug be removed.
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Tom wrote:
People still see Ubuntu as something that's very difficult to get
working.
This is the problem. It is false, but a real problem.
Why not just let them stick with Windows which just works
It doesn't.
and also with Windows isn't everything plug play
It isn't.
whereas in
Me too, but the general perception is clearly not based in current
facts. Actually the problems forum is very positive. A lot of people
are very excited about having just found Ubuntu and many of them are
embarrasingly grateful for even small amounts of help. Sometimes just a
nudge in the right
People still see Ubuntu as something that's very difficult to get
working. Why not just let them stick with Windows which just works
and also with Windows isn't everything plug play whereas in linux
its only for old equipment and you have to spend ages getting it to
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I have been doing a lot in the Answers section lately. Even a noob like
me can do a lot to help people that are even newer or haven't even quite
arrived yet. It seems like a lot of new people try Ubuntu :) Sadly a
lot of questions go Unsolved and some are even unanswered. Even just
one or 2
In my last post i said that newspapers depend on good stories.
Blatantly not quite true. Newspapers feed on tragic horrendous stories
that (for some reason) people find good/interesting to read!
'Good news' stories, as i suggested do appear but people don't get
excited by them. however they are
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/26/dziuba_linux_desktop/
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Anders wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/26/dziuba_linux_desktop/
Old news and FUD.
Summery: People want things not to change, and Linux is different, so
people wont change.
Problem: So is Vista.
The premise is accurate, and that is why Vista was such a resounding
failure for so
Newspapers, radio and tele all depend on having good stories.
Get free advertising by setting up a good story for them to report on
and contact a couple of reporters so they know when and where to be to
get the story. Preferably about 1 story per month.
This works most easily with local
Ahah, found a link to some diy stuff to help brighten up your
office/workshop/wherever in advance of reporters snooping around
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing?highlight=(CategoryMarketing)
cardboard or higher gsm paper seems like a better bet for Cd-stands than the
thin paper i usually use.
*And is there a business plan that involves making money to pay for
advertising ?*
Allengg
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Martin Božič
martin.bo...@gmail.comwrote:
Mozilla had an ad in NYT in 2004 when they released Firefox 1.0, funded
by donations FF users. I don't know how much did this
Well, short of money, I see a very good way to create a demand that will
filter up down. Everytime you go into a store that sells computers,
ask which ones have LINUX pre-Installed. If they ask what that is, you
tell them. If they have some, find out more thank them. If wee all do
this, the
jaypmcwilliams wrote:
How can we begin advertising LINUX on Radio, TV stores? Please tell
me I would be happy to help.
The problem is that advertising is expensive. I will spend the money,
but only to promote my business. If I promote my business, and some of
my vendors, I can get co-op
Mozilla had an ad in NYT in 2004 when they released Firefox 1.0, funded
by donations FF users. I don't know how much did this add to the actual
usage, but in my country there was no ad and we're supposed to be
leading one of the leading countries in Europe (in Slovenia above 50%
users are using
@Martin
You make some good points about Firefox. Mozilla last year broke a
record for most downloads of a single program. There is one thing
though to realize. Just because someone downloads a program such as
Firefox, it doesn't mean the program is being actively used. Some
people see it
Is it possible to get your money back from a pre-installed copy of
Windows if they came with a new PC?
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Yeah, but it's a pita. Google about, there will be a few examples
documented.
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This is an old question, that has many answers. Technically yes. Did you
agree to the EULA ? Did you refuse the EULA when prompted ? If you
accepted and ran Windows, the answer is no.
Did MS Windows come with some original disks and a key ? If not, forget
it.
Did MS Windows come with recovery
2 Alexandros
Theoretically - yes. There is a point in EULA according to which you may claim
your money back.
Practically - it depends on the country you are in. In some countries it is
totally impossible (Ukraine, Russia and other ex-USSR countries are certainly
in the list). And in those you
Microsoft slashes up to 5,000 jobs
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/22/technology/microsoft_jobs/
Excerpt: Software maker Microsoft announced Thursday it will cut up to
5,000 jobs in the next year and a half, or 5.5% of its global workforce,
citing further deterioration of global economic conditions.
Theoretically, it is possible, in practice, it is hard or impossible.
Last year in France, several trials were won by consumers asking for a
refund. Trials are becoming more and more numerous as the French Linux
Association (www.aful.fr) published a refund guide on
www.racketiciel.info. Other
Well, I agree that it's VERY hard to get stores to realize that selling
PC's with FREE software is difficult to do, it's harder to get the
general public to believe that there are things out there for free. They
get scared because Microsoft tells them to be. So, My partner I
started a NEW
There's a collection of experiences about getting a refund for your windows
installation, written by Fellows of the Free Software Foundation Europe
(FSFE):
http://wiki.fsfe.org/Windows-Tax_Refund
It currently includes several countries in Europe and details about how to deal
with individual
Hi Folks,
Kill all the other linux distros and merge the rest of the unix
distributions we will get a powerful beast of unnatured that can
competete and get rid of microsoft entirely from the markrt
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Hi Folks,
Kill all the other linux distros and merge the rest of the unix
distributions we will get a powerful beast of unnatured that can
competete and get rid of microsoft entirely from the markrt
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Allen, there it is said that one of the 10 Things That WON'T Happen In
2009 is that they predict people will continue to choose Windows.
Unfortunately, we all know that's the truth.
But then they comment that Windows outsells Linux in the netbook
market, perhaps because it's simply more familiar
I just prefer using an OS that works for me rather than one where i
often felt i worked for the OS.
Simple things like racing to print something out for a meeting to find
the OS had decided to reboot. Sudden slow downs when my boss wanted
something 'Now d...@#n it NOW' - because the OS decided
This bug is also very spread in Spain, I try to get a non OS computer for my
sister in law, you should see the faces of the sellers going blue after my
request (BODS blue to be precise.
I´m working in this bug refusing to become a free tech support for windows.
if somebody comes to me to
I just liked Amir's original play on words that a non-techie can
understand.
Even if it's pedantically slightly wrong from a techie view-point -
that's not the issue. The issue is trying to get people using Free
Software and eventually to leave Microsoft behind completely. If it's
only techie
Tom wrote:
People often say they will stick with Windows because they just want
something that works out of the box. Clearly these people are
completely clueless and not at all techie. A witty quip like Amir's is
more likely to work than pedantic 'brow-beating'.
Funny that you should
Quoting Tom
I just liked Amir's original play on words that a non-techie can
understand.
So did I !!!
I just corrected all those terms because all this was a mess. It was my
first post on this subject. I posted one about Windows 7 and then I saw
all that that seemed like war to me.
Quoting
Lol, i'm sorry i blew off like that. My posts are after over long and
quite 'rant'y so it was quite hypocritical.
I notice that adverts are seldom accurate (and sometimes seem to be
complete lies) so rather than getting defensive about some of the
preposterous lies and condemnation we face its
I just offered mentorship to this bug relating the ubuntu-pt team (the
Portuguese LoCO team).
I use Ubuntu since Dapper Drake (that is 6.06, so June 2006) and only in
2008 I started to write in this forum because it was when I thought I
had the required knowledge to it because I never used
*Si ! Tiago, y bueno !*
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Tiago Ribeiro zak...@gmail.com
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I just offered mentorship to this bug relating the ubuntu-pt team (the
Portuguese LoCO team).
I use Ubuntu since Dapper Drake (that is 6.06, so June 2006) and only in
2008 I started to write in
Thanks a lot for the words of appreciation Allen but unfortunately you
made the same mistake as almost anyone :)
Portugal is a very small country making frontier to Spain which both make the
Iberian Peninsula but its language is different from Spanish and it is for
example spoken in Brazil.
You
I was a Windows user until XP, then I tried Ubuntu Dapper Drake.
I made dual boot in both my laptop and desktop (in that time I didn't had a
server).
Time passed and I began to use Ubuntu more and more. More applications came and
I learned more.
When Vista came out I didn't tried it. I just
About the subject you were talking about... calm down guys. We're not at war.
But...
So you use Firefox for IRC, AIM, MSN, XMPP, HTTP, FTP, SMTP, IMAP, POP3,
etc.? (...)
HTTP??? So? What's the World Wide Web for you?
And for IRC you have ChatZilla like Amir said before
For AIM just go into
I need to add a few words to the previous post.
Amir said a wrong sentence saying I know the difference between the Internet
and the Web because it is the same thing.
This is normal... I said WEB browser in the end of the other post wanting to
write WWW and my fingers just slipped.
The Web is
kylea wrote on 2009-01-04:
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A good install, well received by a cutting edge teen.
Next challenge is the wife - have installed Thunderbird and moved all
her mail stuff. Just need to check the printer works Lexmark
Good news wife has started
Hola Kylea RE: myth, banks force users to have Windows license . In the
U.S. and Canada NO bank forces anyone to have such a license. But NOTE the
sites might say that you have to use IE$,6.7 Phone the bank and ask.
Tell them that the security breach is so great that it's a danger to all. *This
kylea wrote:
SO why use MS Windows? - No reasons other than some sites sites (ATO and
St George Bank) taht force users to have a windows licence.
There is a patch for this bug at
http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page which will work in a
pinch. But I would complain as well. As
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/business/11ubuntu.html?pagewanted=1_r=2
The technology research firm IDC estimates that 11 percent of American
businesses have systems based on Ubuntu. That said, many of the largest
Ubuntu customers have cropped up in Europe, where Microsoft's dominance has
For the website that will push you to use IE you can install the mozilla
plug-in called agent switcher which allows you to fake IE or other
browser. some times it works fine but when it comes to .net stuff it can
be a problem. .NET is an other attemp of microsoft to keep people to
switch to linux
SO why use MS Windows? - No reasons other than some sites sites (ATO and St
George Bank) taht force users to have a windows licence.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
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2009/1/11 traxtermaster jasonmoug...@hotmail.com:
For the website that will push you to use IE you can install the mozilla
plug-in called agent switcher which allows you to fake IE or other
browser. some times it works fine but when it comes to .net stuff it can
be a problem. .NET is an other
I us a genuine web browser to surf the genuine Internet.
So you use Firefox for IRC, AIM, MSN, XMPP, HTTP, FTP, SMTP, IMAP, POP3, etc.?
No, you surf the World Wide Web, not the web. If you want to get smart about
words, use the correct words. Maybe just point out that Microsoft claims to
have
2009/1/11 Arenlor aren...@arenlor.com:
I us a genuine web browser to surf the genuine Internet.
So you use Firefox for IRC, AIM, MSN, XMPP, HTTP, FTP, SMTP, IMAP, POP3,
etc.? No, you surf the World Wide Web, not the web. If you want to get smart
about words, use the correct words. Maybe just
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