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i Just upgraded my Googleearth version (downloaded the latest from
Google) and it is crashing X again. GLX gears and other 3d games are
working fine...its just google earth...
Note: even previous version crashes X//
sometimes it crashes the whole system and then i have to hard boot it...
cant
On 04/10/2007, Re Alvarez wrote:
i Just upgraded my Googleearth version (downloaded the latest from
Google) and it is crashing X again. GLX gears and other 3d games are
working fine...its just google earth...
Is it crashing only when you run compiz? I haven't used compiz at all
since I
@David
Yes only with Compiz...
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Fix scheduled to be uploaded in xorg-server 1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu5
** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = High
Status: New = In Progress
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: xorg = xorg-server
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** Changed in: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (Ubuntu)
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will it make its way into gutsy release??
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From: Richard Ayotte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Bug 130325] Re: [nvidia-glx] 3D GL apps crash X when using
compiz due to unmaked ABI change (gutsy)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep
xorg-server (2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu5) gutsy; urgency=low
[ Kees Cook ]
* debian/patches/132_composite-no-clipping.diff: Adjusted WindowRec
structure order and RedirectDraw logic to avoid nvidia crashes
(fixes LP: #130325).
* debian/patches/100_security_fdo-bug-7447.diff: Composite
kees cook's package fix the issue for me on x86-64 with a GeForce 7300
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100.14.19 has been released! Let's hope it works.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1381746postcount=20
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sudo aptitude dist-upgrade today + installed the 100.14.19 drivers
Richard mentioned. compiz with desktop effects on + the screensaver
crashes my system still.
With desktop effects off, compiz is using 50% of my processor time. I
have no idea what that is about. I'm on a duo-core laptop. So
Functionality should always win over flash. +1
If we want to stop Compiz being turned on by default we need to make some
noise. I see no sign that Canonical is watching this thread with interest.
Regarding my comment above: I'm not sure that the repackaged Xorg had
anything to do with the
Well personally I've enabled the package popularity contest
( sudo dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest )
and uninstalled compiz completely (the dependencies still
let you for now) *maybe* someone looks at the stats
and *maybe* enough people will get sick of eye candy
killing xwindows and
I'm also an experienced user with the same problems. Are these problems
difficult to identify because we don't have the driver source code?
Either way, the desktop effects are not stable with the current nVidia
drivers so unless that gets resolved soon, I think that enabling them by
default is not
That's not how it works. This bug will cause loss of work and data to a
large part of the userbase, which may have no clue that this can happen,
why it happens or how to work around it. At the same time, those who
think it is really important to have bling will find and turn this
feature on. I've
Nah most users just disable it rather than uninstall it, as with all of
the base system.
ChrisC wrote:
Well personally I've enabled the package popularity contest
( sudo dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest )
and uninstalled compiz completely (the dependencies still
let you for now) *maybe*
This is getting rather off topic, this is not a discussion about Compiz
Fusion by default, this is a discussion about this issue, and solutions
to it. While I would agree it's not outside the scope to talk a bit
about how this effects us with compiz by default, your voice will not be
heard by
Maybe I am missing the point ..
1) Compiz is not on by default for NVidia
But if you own an Nvidia card, then there is no compiz by default!
Why do people insist on claiming that there is?
You are M-A-N-U-A-L-L-Y installing an U-N-S-U-P-P-O-R-T-E-D driver.
After which compiz is enabled by
Exactly =]
But it's unlikely the package will be taken in to gutsy, all it does
afaik is remove the patch with causes incompatibility, this patch is
needed for mobile devices, as said earlier in the bug chatter.
Technically it's not something we should work around. though for the
sake of a
I am using said patch, it does *not* solve all the problems
I'm experiencing, I have already posted to say it fixes
*one* problem
regardless of blame, uninstalling compiz solves all my issues
Who said anything about intel cards?
To reiterate the patch (actually 1 less patch in xorg)
doesn't
It's not compiz. It's the nvidia-driver that is messing up. It just
shows because of compiz actually uses lots of those functions.
Please read all the comments above about the cause.
In other words:
- the closed-sourced driver is to blame (this is where the bugs are)
- the closed-sourced
Calm down, we're not here to talk about anything beyond the scope of the
bug. None of us mind listening, but you're really not telling the right
people. The issue at hand is just a temporary one. (Presumably) when
nvidia reaches xorg compatibility this should be no issue now that it's
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Maybe I am missing the point ..
1) Compiz is not on by default for NVidia
But if you own an Nvidia card, then there is no compiz by default!
Why do people insist on claiming that there is?
The first time you run X after a clean
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Trying to install:
xserver-xorg-core-dbg_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu5~ppa1_i386.deb
I get:
Package: xserver-xorg-core
Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xserver-xorg-core
But of course xserver-xorg-core is already installed! So what's up.
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Okay, so installing xserver-xorg-core-dbg was dumb. Now I've tried
xserver-xorg-core and I'm in real trouble. It lost the screen resolution
and keymap setting (dk). I reinstalled the original xserver-xorg-core
package and put X11's backup (xorg.conf.broken) back in place as
xorg.conf. I still have
You used the Bulletproof X Xorg.conf... not a bright idea =]
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
Duncan Lithgow wrote:
Okay, so installing xserver-xorg-core-dbg was dumb. Now I've tried
xserver-xorg-core and I'm in real trouble. It lost the screen resolution
and keymap setting (dk). I
I will try the xorg-server package is someone can tell me how to revert
to the ubuntu package from the command line if it breaks Xorg. Happy to
help, but not at too much risk... :)
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It depends how you install it.
Install Method A: adding his repo to your sources.list
1. You can add the ppa to your sources.list (bit overkill)
2. Update to that xserver using update-manager
Remove Method A:
1. type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
2. delete the line containing his ppa-repo
3.
@duncan
i'm not entirely sure what the correct settings should be
I think we all experiment with the settings when it didn't work.
I wonder what the actual defaults of restricted-manager are ..
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@duncan
i'm not entirely sure what the correct settings should be
I think we all experiment with the settings when it didn't work.
I wonder what the actual defaults of restricted-manager are ..
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Cook's xserver-xorg-core package seems to fix the issue for me. At
least, glxgears no longer makes X crash, nor does playing a video
fullscreen in mplayer. These two thing caused crashes 99.9% of the time
previously.
My only disappointment was that it did not fix an issue I had thought
might be
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 10:02:16AM -, Duncan Lithgow wrote:
I will try the xorg-server package is someone can tell me how to revert
to the ubuntu package from the command line if it breaks Xorg. Happy to
help, but not at too much risk... :)
If you need to revert, you can use:
sudo apt-get
I also installed
xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu5~ppa1_i386.deb
which works fine with compiz and blender running at the same time
however glxgears and other apps stutter and pause randomly
but work fine without compiz
Great work finding the xorg bug, but compiz still has a ways to
go
I've just tried the same patch. GLXGears Works. No Stutter either.
We love you Kees Cook.
So now we just need confirmation from _non_ nvidia users and ubuntu-mobile
users.
But I doubt they visit this bug-report.. anyone got any bright ideas to extend
the testing so this can get into gutsy on
Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen wrote:
I've just tried the same patch. GLXGears Works. No Stutter either.
We love you Kees Cook.
So now we just need confirmation from _non_ nvidia users and ubuntu-mobile
users.
But I doubt they visit this bug-report.. anyone got any bright ideas to
extend the testing
I just noticed theres this you can put in the screens section of
xorg.conf
Option DisableGLXRootClipping true
could someone whos not using the xorg without clipping patch package
(xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu5~ppa1_i386.deb)
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Option DisableGLXRootClipping true
Tried. It makes no difference in that X still crashes when running
glxgears on Compiz.
Also, when not using Compiz, it makes glxgears run about 10x slower. :(
I really don't think any configuration change is going to make a
difference, if the problem is
Option DisableGLXRootClipping true
I've also just tried this and have the same behaviour as 3vi1 on a
GeForce Go 7400
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On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 12:02:12AM -, Duncan Lithgow wrote:
I've also just tried this and have the same behaviour as 3vi1 on a
GeForce Go 7400
Did the linked (above) xorg-server package not fix it for you?
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I hope nVidia gets on the ball and releases a new driver in time for
everyone to test before Gutsy final (now that it has been voted that
Compiz will be enabled by default). If they don't, I think Gutsy will
end up looking very unstable to users unfamiliar with the underlying
causes.
I have
making compiz enabled by default with this issue *regardless* of blame
would be disastrous and could seriously dent efforts to correct bug #1
it could even mean Ubuntu becoming a minor bit player of distros...
Is this *defiantly* an nvidia bug, are people really sure that there isnt
a bug with
Even without Compiz (or Beryl), the same problem arises if you turn
desktop effects compositing on (drop shadow on windows and so forth).
May I humbly suggest the offending patch simply be removed?
ChrisC wrote:
making compiz enabled by default with this issue *regardless* of blame
would be
You miss the point... if we were to work around it on our end it
wouldn't be a matter of having a new nvidia driver package, with as much
as we can do it has *nothing* to do with the nvidia driver (As said,
with as much as we can do, it is a nvidia problem) The only multi
package solution
Adjusting the 132 patch to not re-order the structure while maintaining
the logic seems to fix the crash for me. Can other people test this?
I'd want to make sure the UME folks are okay too. (This build should be
available on my PPA shortly).
** Attachment added: fix structure order
1. NVidia will fix this with the new driver
2. The new driver will not make gutys
3. We need some sort of workaround
4. Having two xorg-server is I think a whole lot of work for the dev people
(but ask them)
5. Here's a solution:
- add a patch to make the noclipping thingie optional. Turn it
What you describe *is* compiz fusion. And it's not that simple, first
it's something we added in to fix another issue, second realistically
it's nvidia at fault... Do I condone us taking the highroad and leaving
it in so nvidia will fix it's issue... I'm torn. I don't think they'll
learn
Cool. I had been fighting with this bug for the past week and finally
stumbled across this bug report. To me it makes perfect sense not to
build a work around but to wait for a new nvidia driver. Does anyone
know what the timeline might be on this corrected video driver?
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:41:46 -
Kees Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please try builds for xorg-server here:
http://ppa.launchpad.net/keescook/ubuntu/
This works flawlessly (testing with Beryl that I compiled from source
code I still had).
Thanks!!
I installed
(I am going to make this my last comment on this bug)
Maintaining two xorg packages would crank maintenance issues up
dramatically and if it came to this I suspect a 3rd party would have to
maintain the alternate xorg because doing so doesn't carry all the
commitments of Ubuntu doing it (e.g.
my simple work around was to uninstall compiz, and turn off desktop
effects, so it runs metacity as the window manager. Given the choice
between compiz, or working opengl, I pick working opengl. bye bye
compiz.
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I had the same problem with a fresh install of Gutsy (tribe 5) and using
the nvidia-glx-new package from the restricted driver manager (Nvidia
8600 GTS). The installer didn't install the package in the right way too
and I had to manually edit xorg.conf. Every time I run 3D games the X
server
I tried right now without compiz and all works perfectly... I dunno if
the problem is really imputable to Xorg.
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@flynux .. which nvidia driver are you using?
Which programs are working? Some games still work, some don't.
Does glxgears work for you or not? With compiz enabled?
There seem to be an abi-mismatch with the nvidia driver and the xserver.
Ubuntu has backported a fix from the new xserver to this
I think that Ubuntu userbase with Nvidia hardware affected by this bug,
is much bigger then Ubuntu-mobile. Can't they make separate xserver
package? I bet there are many other patches not suitable for desktop
that would greatly help mobile users.
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Since the patch is from upstream and included in the newly released
xorg-server 1.4, the nvidia blob needs to be updated to reflect the
change. Reassigning to l-r-m-2.6.22.
From what I remember, there should be a new driver coming later this
month.
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Just for everybody to know... nvidia is aware of this issue at hand. So
I would guess that the next driver-release will have that bug fixed.
And let's hope for the sake of users of ATI-hardware, who want/need the
fglrx-driver, that AMD/ATI will not be a victim of this change in Xorg.
With the
right as netllama from nvidia said
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1370452postcount=15
this bug will be fixed in the next driver release, which is compatible to
Xorg7.3 / xserver1.4
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Also confirmed on nvidia 7600gs running gusty with nvidia-glx and
running apps such as glxgears or warsow will crash X sig term 11 and
force it to restart.
** Attachment added: xorgcrash.txt
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9199502/xorgcrash.txt
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