Hey all!
I feel happy with (the) rubbish bin.
I have a small confesion.. about an hour ago changed all the wastebasket
entries in
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/nautilus/+pots/nautilus/en_GB/+translate?batch=10show=allsearch=wastebasket
that were using the term
** Also affects: nautilus
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu English (United Kingdom) Translators
(ubuntu-l10n-en-gb)
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Hello again,
I will (if it is OK with the mass consensus, don't want to upset the
group!) rename all wastebasket, deleted items etc to Rubbish Bin
tomorrow (I guess it is tomorrow (I need sleep!)) or Monday on the
Nautilus package even if its just a it will do for now fix?
Michael
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Hi Bruce,
Earlier, you said I'll see if I can get this done for GNOME 2.32, but I
don't promise anything. Thanks, but this is no good. You know exactly
what will happen: people will discuss the issue endlessly and no-one
will ever make a final decision. My top priority is sorting out the
I don't feel I have the authority to change the terminology without
asking at least the other members of the team. I attempted to send a
message to the gnome-uk list yesterday, but for some reason it doesn't
appear to have worked. I'll try again soon.
The thing that irks me is that Ubuntu decide
Bin is great for me, I am from finland and it sounds good for me, I am
speaking brittish and us english.
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Hi Bruce,
Yet again we at upstream were not consulted at all. Thanks for putting
yet another nail in the coffin of upstream collaboration.
I believe the best way to achieve collaboration is communication. As a
representative of upstream, you've been participating in this discussion
all along,
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 14:05 +, David Planella wrote:
If we all agree in the terminology though, and a) the change cannot be
adopted upstream for GNOME 2.32 due to lack of time; b) there are people
in Ubuntu willing to work on this, I'd can see no trouble in adopting a
pragmatic approach
** Also affects: ubuntu-translations
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Importance: Undecided = Medium
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Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu English
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Status: Unknown = Incomplete
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Please forgive my bluntness, I think a survey would be an unnecessary
act. It's a simple fact that in the UK, people will refer to it as the
bin, dustbin, rubbish bin or for something to be recycled recycle
bin or [put it in the] recycling which is less common.
In reply to Matthew Paul Thomas, it
and could somebody please change the title of this from 'localization'
to 'localisation' :D
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I new here,can anyone help me to know what is going on?
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I think the problem is that no-one feels that they have the authority to
make a final decision. A survey would choose for us, but I agree that
it's a lot of messing around for little gain.
This bug is 44 comments long already. I say that we decide on rubbish
bin and just leave it at that. This
Personally, rubbish bin seems a little raw. But I suppose I could see
what gnome-uk thinks.
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Google Mail calls it Bin, short and simple. If that wouldn’t suit most
users, they would certainly choose another term.
Rubbish Bin or any other variation of [word] Bin seems too long and
specific.
Disclaimer: I’m not a native speaker. Just believing that design can (and
should) be measured
I think most native speakers are happy with either Bin or Rubbish
Bin. I'd personally prefer Bin (as I wouldn't really refer to deleted
files rubbish) but Rubbish Bin is fine if we are going with the
waste container metaphor. As mentioned above, gmail uses Bin and that
seems very natural.
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On 26/08/2010 12:01 a.m., Kazade wrote:
I think most native speakers are happy with either Bin or Rubbish
Bin. I'd personally prefer Bin (as I wouldn't really refer to deleted
files rubbish) but Rubbish Bin is fine if we are going with the
waste container metaphor. As mentioned above, gmail
Its bin on mine
On 25 August 2010 13:48, Cody C 406...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
On 26/08/2010 12:01 a.m., Kazade wrote:
I think most native speakers are happy with either Bin or Rubbish
Bin. I'd personally prefer Bin (as I wouldn't really refer to deleted
files rubbish) but Rubbish Bin
On 25 August 2010 13:48, Cody C 406...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
Actually, I think gMail uses Trash, not Bin.
Not when configured to use UK English, which is what we are talking
about here.
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Trash is American usage. What gmail uses is dependant on your English
GB/US setting and here we are talking about GB.
I am in support of Mr Borchardt who said that anything bin is too long.
Just bin would be fine if you don't mind the .bin extension.
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Blog : http://archeleus.com/blog
On
About the .bin confusion:
No normal user should ever come upon a .bin file (or file extensions at all but
that’s a different story). Everyone that works with .bin files knows the
difference. So, where is the confusion?
@unforeseen: Compare how often .bin files come up in support cases vs.
how
I completely agree with you. I was just playing devil's advocate :)
Can we agree on Bin then? yes?
On 25 August 2010 14:57, Jan-Christoph Borchardt
jancborcha...@gmail.comwrote:
About the .bin confusion:
No normal user should ever come upon a .bin file (or file extensions at all
but that’s
We have the Doc team verdict! Can the Translations team get this fixed
for Maverick ?
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The deleted items folder is inconsistently named and is referred to as
both Wastebasket and Deleted items, Ubuntu offers to 'Empty Deleted
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.bin extensions should be fine.
I don't know relevant here but what about /bin?
I wouldn't want any newbie to do a rm * -r -f /bin thinking he was clearing
the waste.
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On 25 August 2010 21:57, Jan-Christoph Borchardt
jancborcha...@gmail.comwrote:
About the
Please, just go with Bin. The majority of native speakers in this
thread seem happy with it. Either go with Bin or do a survey (but I'm
almost positive the outcome of such a survey would be Bin).
Gmail uses Bin, and even Microsoft calls it the Recycle Bin in
Windows. Bin is the common GB term,
Phil asked if I could conduct a survey which I haven't formally done.
However I have taken the opportunity to pester just about everyone I
know in the real world and ask them a simple question or two. what's
that? (whilst pointing at a refuse container on the floor ;) ) . I also
asked what was the
I've sent a message to the gnome-uk list asking on thoughts about bin.
I'll see if I can get this done for GNOME 2.32, but I don't promise
anything.
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Please, just go with Bin. The majority of native speakers in this
thread seem happy with it. Either go with Bin or do a survey (but I'm
almost positive the outcome of such a survey would be Bin).
Gmail uses
Does anyone know how I can unsubscribe from this group?
Gary
dgar...@yahoo.com
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Hi folks,
This bug devolved into bikeshedding long ago. Consistency is the most
important consideration here, not the actual term that's used. It's
important that we make a choice and stick to it, ASAP. So, I'm sure that
alternative choices like bin would be just as good, and I'm sure
everyone
Yet again we at upstream were not consulted at all. Thanks for putting
yet another nail in the coffin of upstream collaboration.
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Hi Popey,
Would you mind organising a survey? It would probably be best to ask a
simple, non-leading question, e.g. What [do|would] you call the place
where files go when you delete them? Non-technical users would be more
valuable participants because they're the ones most likely to be
affected
Ryan,
Thanks for the clarification. I have launchpad set up, and I think
everything is good to go. How can I help with this bug?
- Bryant
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Ryan Hoover
406...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote:
Bryant,
It was sent to the Docs team in general -- not you specifically.
Vish,
I'm new to the Ubuntu Docs group. I was just assigned this new task with you
guys, but I'm not sure how to get this started, or where to log in. I was
trying to find someone under the Ubuntu mentoring program. Any information
you could off I would appreciate!
- Bryant
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010
Bryant,
It was sent to the Docs team in general -- not you specifically. I'm new
also and was just as confused when I first got the email :)
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Bryant Lippert
bryant.lipp...@gmail.comwrote:
Vish,
I'm new to the Ubuntu Docs group. I was just assigned this new
Can I push for a decision on this ASAP, please? Not having a consistent
naming convention causes problems for people doing user assistance (docs
etc.), and this discussion has gone on for far too long. A native
British English speaker should make the decision; having a non-native
speaker decide
I'd be happy top help organise such a survey (also a brit).
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I think the general consensus among native British English speakers in
this report is that bin or rubbish bin are suitable terms. e.g.
Move to the rubbish bin, Empty the rubbish bin etc.
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@Phil , I had emailed Martin Meredith, a couple of weeks ago, to take a
decision on this bug. But havent heard back from him yet.
There seems to be no consensus on this. Let's just pick one and get this
fixed for Maverick :-)
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@Phil , I had emailed Martin Meredith, a couple of weeks ago, to take a
decision on this bug. But havent heard back from him yet.
There seems to be no consensus on this. Let's just pick one and get this
fixed for Maverick :-)
Assigning to docs team as per Phil's suggestion
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@Phil , I had emailed Martin Meredith, a couple of weeks ago, to take a
decision on this bug.
But haven't heard back from him yet.
There seems to be no consensus on this. Let's just pick one and get this
fixed for Maverick :-)
Assigning to docs team as per Phil's suggestion
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If anything was decided, I could probably get this fixed for GNOME 2.32.
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** Description changed:
- The delted items folder is inconsistently named and is referred to as
+ The deleted items folder is inconsistently named and is referred to as
both Wastebasket and Deleted items, Ubuntu offers to 'Empty Deleted
Items' but the window is headed Wastebasket. The URL to
Trash is a term very rarely used within the United Kingdom. It is very
common to called the items themselves rubbish in such a phrase as
this can belongs in the rubbish. In reference to the folder however,
as wikipedia[0] points out, in place of trashcan the British normally
use the term rubbish
** Description changed:
The delted items folder is inconsistently named and is referred to as
both Wastebasket and Deleted items, Ubuntu offers to 'Empty Deleted
Items' but the window is headed Wastebasket. The URL to deleted items is
also trash:/// in nautilus but this is possibly a
Please change the description back.
It's simply not true that the word 'trash' is in common use in UK
English for this context. It is a term from American English and is just
not appropriate in a GB translation.
I think that most people would agree that the OED is a reliable source of
You could say that the assertion that Trash is used in Britain is utter
rubbish.
Sorry.
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** Summary changed:
- Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named
+ Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localization
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