(Reopening after a month since sharath gave no evidence that this is
really fixed.)
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Status: Fix Committed => Confirmed
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sharath, could you provide a link to the merge that fixed this bug?
Thanks.
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Menus are hidden by default
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Status: Triaged => Confirmed
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Piedro, in the bug description I specifically said that Adding any
options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by
default*. So no, this is not about adding options. (Which is why,
incidentally, the purported Desired change is irrelevant to this bug.)
The problem with
It's a design decision, get over it. I, and plenty of other people, do not want
to waste screen space with ever presents menu when
- you use them about 0-2% of the application usage time
- Unity has HUD which is a better alternative to menus
- it literally takes 0.2 seconds to show them (time
Now, adding comment editing functionalities to launchpad so that one can
correct his typos, that would be a nice feature.
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Title:
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Hi Leonardo!
I am glad that you find the design decision useful. many words to
explain how it suits you... but we could just sum it up: you like it
that way. Nothing to argue with that.
But now guess: I (and many others) don't like it. So why do you tell me
to get over it? Well I don't want to
Personally i am only bothered by the hiding menus once the window is
maximized. Then when i click on the title bar, i either get the launcher
icons or one of the menu items.
I dont understand why there is no option to always enable menus? I mean
in mozilla firefox we are seeing the page title on
Personally am not bothered by this issue. Once I figured out about it (I
read the review) it was easy to adapt. However I am system administrator
for a university that runs completely on ubuntu. We are currently on
ubuntu 10.04 on all our administrative desktops (over 800) and I have
been looking
Seriously, i don't understand how one can find auto-hiding of the global menu
useful.
If you say that this is useful when you move windows, think how many times per
hour you move your IDE, browser etc,... and how may times you seek an entry in
the menu.
And finally, the global menu is similar
I don't know what all the fuss is about, it's great not being able to
see where things are that you need to click on. I heard that for 15.04
the next phase of this brilliant plan will go into effect - entire
windows will be invisible until you mouse over them. Just imagine how
slick and stylish
Since 14.04 LTS was just frozen and this bug hangs ONLY for 3 years on
the roll, does it mean we cannot expect this to be finally fixed for
14.04 as well? Then what, 16.04, 22.04?
This is such a minimal fix, plenty of patches for previous unity
version, but you just refuse to implement it!
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** Changed in: unity-2d (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = Triaged
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = Triaged
** Changed in: ayatana-design
Status: New = Confirmed
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Would this change be also available as backport in 12.04 LTS? We are
using here only LTS versions at university. Also note that this bug was
submitted before even 12.04 LTS was released, so I think the fix should
also cover 12.04 LTS since it is still supported.
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There is a setting in gconf to delay autohide.
But it cannot be set to more than 10 seconds. It should be a very little
and minor change to allow this to be set to infinite ... The fact that
no one at the unity team implements this very simple solution is more
than annoying.
piedro
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I agree. Any time I installed Ubuntu onto someone's system, I really
have to emphasize to them that they must hover at the top to see these
menus. This is not very intuitive; it has to be figured out the hard way
or shown to you.
New users need to SEE the options available to them, not FEEL
I understand that an always-on menu will hide the window title. Here's
an idea:
With the always-on menu enabled, maximized windows maximize the old-
fashioned way: The title bar doesn't take over the menu bar.
Honestly, this seems to be a problem that Mac and Windows have sorted
pretty well. I
I converted Grandma to Ubuntu 12.04.I thank the whole linux communit
for an amazing product. This bug of hidden menus is perhaps the worst
bug I have ever seen. Grandma worked on IBM systems in the '70's and
she's used DOS, and Eudora on Windows 3.1 and on up. Grandma says this
is, quote
Any chance of this getting looked at? Been a couple years now and it's
pretty annoying.
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The auto-hiding of the menu causes a lot of usability problems for us,
to the extent that some have ditched Unity altogether. Making choice
available is clearly very important but the default should definitely be
to show the menus always for the reasons already given in the report.
No-one in our
I am on Raring Ringtail now - still no change?
What am I missing?
thx, piedro
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I really hope something is happening with this in 13.04. Please... its
not that hard. Just give users a choice.
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This thread shows how bug tracking tools are not appropriate for
discussing glitches in the design of an application.
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Hey guys, common, how long we need to wait till this gets fixed? All we
see are just some ticket status changes, nothing more, no reponse from
Ubuntu team or whatsoever.
Right now I am working both on Mac OS X and Ubuntu, and I find default
disappearing menu completely useless, just to show empty
This is a massive usability problem an it is assigned to NOBODY
This is the biggest usability problem on 12.04 and a massive deterrent
for anyone upgrading from 10.04 and have a userbase which is used to
Gnome2. Less computer savvy users simply don't find the menu this way.
If Unity want to
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@GM Kavi: Yes, I have a PPA with a patched version of Unity. One of the
options I've added is the ability to disable global menu hide. You can
see my PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~ikarosdev/+archive/unity-
revamped/
For more information, visit this link and view the last answer. It will
show
If anybody comes up with a workaround for this until the checkbox which
should have shipped with the initial release is added, please post it
here. If there's some config file I can tweak or a patched package I can
download (especially if something is backported from 12.10) I'd like to
know. I
** Changed in: unity-2d
Status: New = Confirmed
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Medium
** Changed in: unity-2d (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Medium
** Changed in: unity
Importance: Undecided = Medium
** Changed in: unity-2d
Importance: Undecided =
** Description changed:
- Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 beta
+ Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: File Connect to
Server.
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the Bookmarks menu.
What happens:
1.
** Description changed:
Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: File Connect to
Server.
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the Bookmarks menu.
What happens:
1. The File menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus,
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 682788 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 735233
Option for persistent menus in AppMenu for focused application
** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 682788
Global menu is not ergonomical on
** Description changed:
- Ubuntu Natty alpha 3
+ Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 beta
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: File Connect to
Server.
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the Bookmarks menu.
What happens:
1. The File menu, and
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 682788 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788
** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 682788
Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** Changed in: ayatana-design
Assignee: John Lea (johnlea) = (unassigned)
** Changed in:
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 735233 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735233
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 682788
Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 735233
Option for persistent menus in AppMenu for
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 735233 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735233
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Confirmed
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Status: New = Confirmed
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Status: Won't Fix = Confirmed
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Status: Invalid = Confirmed
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Status: Invalid = Confirmed
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Status: Invalid = Confirmed
** Description changed:
Ubuntu Natty alpha 3
@Ken: I see it marked as Undecided not Invalid. Maybe there's some
hope for the final realease?
I'd be happy if it could be possible in Unity 2D only for now.
I vote for the suggestion by Mach, and since that is supposed to be the
way (according to Mark), I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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I heard today that this was not likely to land for 12.04, it might be an
SRU candidate, but the code isn't ready for the LTS given we're in beta
already.
Mark
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One of the things that I find particularly annoying about this auto-
hide behavior is that it makes it hard to aim for a particular sub-menu.
Essentially, you grab the mouse, hit the top of the screen, then slide
along it until you hit what you want. Without auto-hide (IIRC this is
how it works on
Unhide on first mouse movement would have it flickering on and off the
whole time, given it can't tell which mouse movements are going to end
with it over the menu. Surely that's going to be way more distracting
than just having it permanently visible, which I think is all that most
of us actually
A delay in hiding the menu for a few seconds after movement would
prevent flickering. I prefer a permanently visible option too. I simply
wanted to provide another option in case it was easier to implement.
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Interesting how this is a massive usability problem, and it's marked as
invalid and won't fix. That's a microcosm of Canonical's attitude
toward its users.
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While I understand the design decision, I would also much appreciate
options:
1. Default behaviour (Unity behaviour)
2. No global menu (Windows behaviour, clumsily settable by removing
indicator-appmenu)
3. Always show global menu (OS X behaviour, not settable at the moment)
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Yes, I thought that range was what was planned too. What's the status?
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For me too, the hide and show of the menus slows down my work, and I
would really prefer to have them visible at all times.
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This behavior is NOT acceptable in real daily work, slows down significantly.
This is my #1 complaint about Unity as well.
Is there any patch for showing menus?
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This is my #1 complaint about Unity.
And I actually *like* the GlobalMenu idea.
At least with the Launcher, I could turn the hiding behavior off (I hate
it when my shell hides things from me by default. I don't mind a switch
to *allow* me to hide things, if I want, but I never generally want
make the menu turn on all the time or at least put an option to make it
turn on all the time would be a great addition.
if we're gonna copy mac osx, at least we have to do it right! :D
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This is one of my major gripes with unity, there's far too much move
mouse, wait, see, move mouse again, click. I want move, click.
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This issue really is absurd on desktop machines. The menu is hidden for
absolutely no reason - the space left behind after it is hidden is not
actually used for anything! This does not save any space, it actually
wastes it!
As for the design document,
Menus are an essentially awkward way of
I agree, this is a major usability regression IMHO from previous
versions of Ubuntu, I spent ages trying to find the menu before I
thought of mousing over the title at the top of the screen. Can we at
least have an option to turn it off!! I'm a Mac OS X user so menus at
the top of the screen are
Perhaps more constructive in most of the apps I use there is ample
space for the menu to sit beside the window title, why not simply make
the menu permanently visible but sit next to the window title. If either
gets too large then add a ... indicator and then a mouse over can
reveal the
I suggest that menus should only be hidden when the window is maximized
(so you can read the window title). Otherwise the menu bar should always
be visible to avoid confusing the users.
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Perhaps a quick peek when a shortcut is hit, similar to OSX. Ctrl + W/Q,
Copy, Paste, etc. are all well known keyboard shortcuts that people use,
probably over the menus. Doing a small peek of the menu, or some other
momentary animation in the spot where the menu should be would help
enormously,
If the goal is to save space by removing menubars from applications it
should be done in the proper way: re-designing these applications such
that menubars are not necessary.
The only advantage I can see of doing it like this is to irritate users
and developers into using/creating applications
** Description changed:
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1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: File Connect to
Server.
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the Bookmarks menu.
What happens:
1. The File menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by
** Also affects: unity-2d
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Hiding the menubar and only showing the menu on hover basically makes
the most important benefit A menu bar at the top of the screen. It
has several benefits, most importantly being quick to use because of the
large virtual target area... a moot point, from
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Marked as invalid as this change request contradicts the design, see
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dfkkjjcj_1776g5ztgbc3
To discuss this design, please use the Ayatana-design mailing list
https://launchpad.net/~ayatana
** Changed in: ayatana-design
Status: New = Invalid
** Changed
** Tags removed: needs-design sniffles
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Making Won't Fox. I think if we're not going to do anything about the
lack of discoverability , we need to be honest about that.
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Status: Invalid = Won't Fix
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