Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2017-03-09 Thread Martin Wildam
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Boris Malkov wrote: > I'm using Ubuntu since 8.04, and have noticed something. It was improving > with every single release, > but since 12.04 I don't see neither the progress nor at least stability: it > is getting worse. I am not an

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2017-02-27 Thread Martin Wildam
PC and laptop times are not over, no, tablets and mobile phones are not an alternative. Alternative devices may obsolete a PC at many places, but: For those who want a PC or laptop if they go to a shop, they still pretty everywhere only find Windows. There should be some hardware that comes

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2016-12-14 Thread Martin Wildam
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Tom <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > A few years ago some study allegedly found that 80% > of computer usage is now done using tablets and phones. You mean 80 % of the computer usage that nobody really needs is now done using tablets and phones. Apart from

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2016-12-14 Thread zakzor
"So wearables (incl watches) (...) are likely to keep using unix-based systems, usually specifically gnu" Tizen is one of them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen Regards, zakzor On Wed, Dec 14, 2016, 12:35 Tom <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Hi :) > While this is still true and unlikely

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2016-12-14 Thread Tom
Hi :) While this is still true and unlikely to change many people are using chromebooks, tablets, phones and other devices to do things that they previously would have had to use a desktop to do. Laptops have also become much more popular too. A few years ago some study allegedly found that 80%

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2016-04-06 Thread Martin Wildam
Post scriptum: IMHO as the description of bug 1 shows it is pretty obvious that the bug is not solved so I do not understand why it's status is "fix released". > This bug is widely evident in the PC industry. > > Steps to repeat: > > 1. Visit a local PC store. > 2. Attempt to buy

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2016-04-05 Thread Martin Wildam
Neither the way Microsoft will/says/wants bringing Ubuntu to Windows nor the rise of Android on the mobile phones is IMHO an argument to mark Bug 1 solved. Even from the usability of the basic operating system I think there are still to-dos left to make more people move to Linux - apart from the

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2016-04-02 Thread Randall Ross
The fix for Bug #1 is to spread free software everywhere. With the recent Ubuntu in/on Windows announcement, (many many many) millions of people who couldn't access or participate in Ubuntu will soon have that ability, giving them a glimpse into our world and a chance they've never had. We're

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2015-10-24 Thread Shaun Husain
In 2013 Mark Shuttleworth marked the bug as resolved in Ubuntu since Android and ios have created diversity in the market which defeats the issue despite Ubuntu itself not having a direct hand in the shift. Also, mentioned in the post was the fact that the desktop os should focus on creating a

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2015-05-23 Thread Martin Wildam
Checked in half an hour ago at a hotel where they use open office, Thunderbird, Firefox etc. - they are on a good way. I also switched all the required applications and only at the end changed the underlying OS. That way the switch works step by step. -- Martin Wildam Am 23.05.2015 09:56 schrieb

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2015-05-23 Thread Marius B. Kotsbak
2015-05-22 21:19 GMT+02:00 mohican 1...@bugs.launchpad.net: ***Ubuntu need to be sold pre-installed on 100% compatible harware.*** But this is not enough, people will not buy PCs with an alternative OS on it. People buy PCs with Windows because they know it and expect it to work 100% (or

RE: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2014-10-24 Thread Faldegast
] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share Hi :) +1 except the question is really out-dated now. There's really 3 forks of it; 1. desktop only = still not fixed 2. total devices used by weeus = done but debatable 3. handhelds = definitely done. Regards from Tom :) -- You

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2014-10-24 Thread Randall Ross
software in more than one store are a lot easier than supporting different operating systems. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:19:55 + From: 1...@bugs.launchpad.net To: faldeg...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share Hi :) +1 except the question is really out

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2014-10-24 Thread Marcelo Atie
:19:55 + From: 1...@bugs.launchpad.net To: faldeg...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share Hi :) +1 except the question is really out-dated now. There's really 3 forks of it; 1. desktop only = still not fixed 2. total devices used

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2014-10-24 Thread Martin Wildam
What are the numbers of the fork bugs? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 Title: Microsoft has a majority market share To manage notifications about this bug go to:

RE: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2014-10-24 Thread Faldegast
I still do not agree. Microsoft never had majority market share on anything but desktop. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 18:29:51 + From: marceloa...@gmail.com To: faldeg...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share i think Bug #1 was closed, and Microsoft has

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2014-10-23 Thread Martin Wildam
Hi On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Páll Haraldsson pall.haralds...@gmail.com wrote: @mwildam: [...] ALL OF THEM do their main computer work with a PC or laptop. You cannot assume that most of the serious computer work is done from an Android phone or tablet. Why is that? And not sure it's

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2014-10-23 Thread Tom
Hi :) +1 except the question is really out-dated now. There's really 3 forks of it; 1. desktop only = still not fixed 2. total devices used by weeus = done but debatable 3. handhelds = definitely done. Regards from Tom :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

RE: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-09-23 Thread Gadmer-Tv
bu ne Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 19:12:25 + From: 1...@bugs.launchpad.net To: mesu...@hotmail.com Subject: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share ** Package changed: linux (Fedora) = fedora ** Changed in: fedora Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug

RE: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-09-07 Thread Martyn Vallett
...@yahoo.it Sent: September 7, 2013 4:36 PM To: rodneyrules2...@hotmail.com Subject: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share (I noticed that all ubuntu specific programs are all dependancies of each other despite not needing the others to run in most cases.) could you please give examples

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-06-09 Thread Ramchandra Apte
Agree strongly. On 7 June 2013 15:45, Martin Wildam 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Hi, On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Wow, i find it amazing that you don't see more people using mobile or hand-held devices in your town! Also amazing that you can't

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-06-07 Thread Martyn Vallett
I firmly believe that this bug is no where near being fixed! Things that need to be fixed: 1. Quite a few of the OEM's still don't support Linux, and whenever drivers are asked for (I'm talking about items that aren't supported correctly by the kernel, such as my particular GPU.) they try to

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-06-07 Thread Tom
, 8:48 Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share I firmly believe that this bug is no where near being fixed! Things that need to be fixed: 1. Quite a few of the OEM's still don't support Linux, and whenever drivers are asked for (I'm talking about items that aren't

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-06-07 Thread Martin Wildam
Hi, On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Wow, i find it amazing that you don't see more people using mobile or hand-held devices in your town! Also amazing that you can't buy any hand-held or mobile devices anywhere. Such devices have already pretty much taken

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-06-07 Thread Tom
under GnuLinux. The tiny hewlett packard printers worked straight off the bat with 0 effort. Regards from Tom :) From: Martin Wildam 1...@bugs.launchpad.net To: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 11:15 Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-06-06 Thread Martin Wildam
Not only visiting a shop you still mostly see Windows on the PCs, it took me a lot of discussion and cost me about 200 bucks more than expected to get a new PC from Dell (today) with Ubuntu preinstalled. First time, Dell made troubles selling me a Windows-less PC, so for my experience here in

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-31 Thread Tom
...@bugs.launchpad.net To: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013, 23:00 Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share Sorry Mark, but as many above I also cannot consider this bug being fixed. Only last week I wanted to buy a new Canonical certified hardware from Dell

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-30 Thread Paul Flint
Dear Mark, Nice job fixing this bug. Kindest Regards, Paul Flint (802) 479-2360 Home (802) 595-9365 Cell / Based upon email reliability concerns, please send an acknowledgment in response to this note. Paul Flint 17 Averill Street Barre, VT 05641 -- You

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-30 Thread Mark Cariaga
Great job Ubuntu! It's time to file a regression... Localized bug perhaps... It's the lack of retail presence (e.g. Walmart, best buy, etc) of Ubuntu desktop and laptops in North America. And yes, there are popular online stores here, but not that much physical stores yet. On 2013-05-30 3:46

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-30 Thread Mark Cariaga
Martyn putting $ on Microsoft is not cool anymore. It's used by trolls. If we advocate enough, eventually we'll see changes On 2013-05-30 4:21 AM, Martyn Vallett 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Micro$haft still have a grip in Australia, but I have been noticing that chrome OS and andriod

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-30 Thread Tom
Hi :) +1 It is already the year of the linux desktop except that it's really the year of the linux portable device because people are increasingly moving away from desktops.  Regards from Tom :) From: ttoine tto...@ttoine.net Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013,

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-30 Thread Tom
Hi :) That is what i thought at first but there was a crucial paragraph in there that said the main aim is now to just increase the quality of the product rather than the main aim being to fix this bug.  Personally i have always seen this as a longer-term wish-list or feature request rather

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-30 Thread Tom
Hi :) Have to disagree with the top man.  Ubuntu played a huge part.  Ubuntu got out there into the mainstream press over and over again.  Not as a quirky, insane, anarchistic, geek toy but as a serious business tool with repeated successes in many companies around the globe.  Redhat had

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-30 Thread Manjul Apratim
@Barry For the record, FOSS does not imply software that is free as in beer. The protagonists of free software - the folks at GNU - openly state on www.gnu.org that it is perfectly acceptable to sell software free as in freedom for money. Hi :) Have to disagree with the top man. Ubuntu played a

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-30 Thread Martin Wildam
Sorry Mark, but as many above I also cannot consider this bug being fixed. Only last week I wanted to buy a new Canonical certified hardware from Dell - they definitely do not want to sell a non-Windows PC to me. Best offer I could get (after insisting) is at about 1 third more expensive. I never

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-30 Thread Tom
way and beginning to move quite a lot more quickly.  Are businesses going to be ready?  Your new corporate customer's isn't.  Yours is.  Regards from Tom :)  From: Pedro Galvan Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013, 23:05 Subject: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-27 Thread Tom
Hi :)  I think it is fairly easy to install for most people.  Even people that have no experience installing any other OS.  It takes me around an hour or more but i add tons of extras such as Medibuntu and am typically doing so on fairly ancient machines.  As a noob it took me a lot longer

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-27 Thread Tom
Hi :) The problem is that people are comparing installing Ubuntu against using a system that is already installed for them.  A pre-installed systems means you don't have to do anything to install it.  Of course that is easier than installing it yourself!  I'm not quite sure about the

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-27 Thread Martin Wildam
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 3:40 AM, A. Denton aqu...@tron-delta.org wrote: The bugs name should be altered. I think Microsoft is just one player in this game. I agree with you. However, from all the players Microsoft is the one that affects me most (in a negative way). And I say this although (or

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-24 Thread Martin Wildam
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Aditya Avinash 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: The usability of windows is easier than ubuntu. Why? It's the mind that plays the game. Every person i know is afraid to install ubuntu on their metal. Why? Because they think of it as a geek, hacker, complex

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-08 Thread Tom
Hi :) Barry has.  Check his recent attachments to this list.  I'm not suggesting ranting.  Richard Stallman seems to get away with it but i probably wouldn't.  Barry's approach seemed to be very effective.  Make them feel the market pull.  The market is changing.  These shops will only

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-08 Thread houstonbofh
On 05/08/2013 06:27 AM, Graham wrote: If I walked into a PC World and started ranting off about the lack of support for Linux I would be escorted off the premises. And you know it. As far as complaining to the CEO... have you considered what is in it for them? Do you think you could

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-08 Thread Martin Wildam
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Graham ubu...@grahams.idps.co.uk wrote: If I walked into a PC World and started ranting off about the lack of support for Linux I would be escorted off the premises. And you know it. And that's why sometimes Linux folks are put into the same basket as

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-06 Thread Tom
Hi :) +1 Long gone are the days of behaving like a gentleman and getting treated with respect as a result.  If you think you might be shyembarrassed then read up on Richard Stallman's philosophies or get the slightly more corporate approach from the Free Software Foundation.  Either should help

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-05 Thread Tom
Hi :)Lol, nice!  Errr, you realise this is an intenational online resource that may stand forever? Also that this bug-repoort is usually used for general gripping or for occasionally shouts of triumph/joy. It's not usually used as a marketing list for assessing specific strategies or ideas. 

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-05 Thread Barry Drake
On 05/05/13 20:24, Tom wrote: It's not usually used as a marketing list for assessing specific strategies or ideas. There must be a marketing list or something that would really appreciate all this work a lot more and be able to use the intelligence. Now that it is up and avilable it

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-05-05 Thread Martin Wildam
Hi, On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Barry Drake b.dr...@ntlworld.com wrote: Ubuntu is a fantastic community, but is is too fragmented and anarchic to debug this particular bug! If Ubuntu would be a terror organisation, I think everybody would see exactly that - the thinking global and acting

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-04-09 Thread Tom
Hi :) When this bug-report was first posted the IT world was a very different place.  I think it was even before netbooks!  There are a couple of ironies now 1.  The long awaited Year of the Linux Desktop is already happening but we kinda missed it or don't notice it because it's not about

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-03-11 Thread Tom
Hi :) Are you sure you are not Torrenting something?  I usually deliberately leave my torrenting-client on for a while after i download something with the aim of uploading it 2 or 3 times before switching it off.  The defaults are to upload as much as possible but i usually throttle that down

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-03-11 Thread Martin Wildam
Martyn Vallett 1...@bugs.launchpad.net: How do I do that? (I didn't even know that was possible...) It looks like you are pretty fast in making conclusions without enough proove. You could use tcpdump or wireshark to investigate traffic - as maybe it's just ubuntuone. Use the inotify tools (just

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-03-10 Thread houstonbofh
I had already turned it off, and then it decided to leak the data. I am also curious what the 'Data' that it was sending was. There are three things off the top of my head that could be communicating back... The Amazon silliness, Landscape and Popularity Contest (popcon) assuming, of course,

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-03-10 Thread Martin Wildam
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Martyn Vallett 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I had already turned it off, and then it decided to leak the data. I am also curious what the 'Data' that it was sending was. Do you have more details on the data or how you discovered the leak? For example the

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-03-10 Thread Martin Wildam
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Martyn Vallett 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Do you have more details on the data or how you discovered the leak? I was causually surfing the web and I noticed it was overly laggy, so I went into the system monitor and noticed that my system was uploading at

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-03-09 Thread Martin Wildam
Another problem that should be fixed in ubuntu is the data leaks caused by the spyware of the webapps. Not again! Yes, it was not really ok to add the amazon and online search. I think, even Canonical knows in the meantime that everybody else in the community dislikes that. But please, there is

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-28 Thread Tom
Hi :) The best place to get normal Ubuntu from is http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop and avoid installing apport.   It sounds like you are looking for trouble by trying to use unstable alpha-test versions that would only normally be used by certain devs working on fairly specific projects. 

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-28 Thread Tom
Hi :) Sorry, i didn't mean you were deliberately seeking out trouble.  Just that it seems you have done what most of us did in our early days too.  There is a LOT of advice out there and not all of it is good for all occasions.  Often people claim that the only legitimate way of doing

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-26 Thread Martin Wildam
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 6:16 AM, MDV 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Firstly something that would appeal to the gaming market is an overclocking and underclocking feature, as some people prefer to do overclocking in their OS, but we don't appear to have any such programs. And other groups like

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-26 Thread Tom
Hi :) I don't have any of those problems.  Perhaps you need to check that you have an official Cd or downloaded from the official website and then md5sum or Sha check the Cd or Usb that you use to install Ubuntu. 1.  Overclocking and underclocking.  Doesn't this need to be done from inside the

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-26 Thread Tom
Hi :) Wow!!  Some good links there from other people!  There was 1 release that had a lot of problems with segmentation faults.  That got fixed and doesn't seem to have reappeared in any of the subsequent releases in the last few years.  Regards from Tom :) -- You received this bug

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-26 Thread Achilles12
...@bugs.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share Hi :) I don't have any of those problems.  Perhaps you need to check that you have an official Cd or downloaded from the official website and then md5sum or Sha check the Cd or Usb that you use to install Ubuntu. 1

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-26 Thread Martin Wildam
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Perhaps you need to check that you have an official Cd or downloaded from the official website and then md5sum or Sha check the Cd or Usb that you use to install Ubuntu. I only use images from the official download page and

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-26 Thread Tom
Hi :) Martin, i wasn't referring to you having bad Cd images, i was referring to the person that seems to have had multiple problems that the rest of us hasn't (or only had in certain unusual cases when doing something quite peculiar). I am curious about setting up a login to a Ctirx server

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-26 Thread Tom
Hi :) +1 I think MDV somehow got a corrupted Cd or else was using Windows and didn't notice.  I've done it myself sometimes at work.  Xp and Ubuntu feel so comfortable, even the 12.04.  Win7 is not to bad either although it's a bit weird to get a pop-up box demanding to know if you want to

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-26 Thread Martin Wildam
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I am curious about setting up a login to a Ctirx server btw. Could you give links or contact me off-list? I have sent you information. Also a LOT of times i find that people claim to have become infected by some sort of

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-26 Thread Tom
Hi :) Thanks for the off-list help there Marin :)  Should help improve my relationship with my boss :) All Windows 'security' seems to be just a layer added on top of a fundamentally insecure system.  Where Win7 appears to have something similar to sudo or gksu that really feels like something

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-26 Thread Martin Wildam
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Thanks for the off-list help there Marin :) Should help improve my relationship with my boss :) Sounds familiar to me... ;-) Programs need to operate without constantly asking the users permissions but have they all

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-17 Thread Tom
Hi :) There might be proprietary software in the Software Centre but that is like saying you can't walk into a high-street shop if you have no intention of buying anything.   Of course you can still buy and sell Cds or Dvds with Ubuntu on and of course you can still sell support services either

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-17 Thread Ramchandra Apte
+1 On 17 January 2013 17:26, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Hi :) There might be proprietary software in the Software Centre but that is like saying you can't walk into a high-street shop if you have no intention of buying anything. Of course you can still buy and sell Cds or Dvds

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2013-01-03 Thread Martin Wildam
Hi, not sure, if anybody who can make decisions is still reading this, but I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 for a total beginner (this is what Ubuntu claims to be most adapted for): a) Never ever a total beginner is able to install and setup Ubuntu on his own - will always need help (I already

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-16 Thread Tom
Hi :) Also i think it might help to just run a standard programs updates/upgrades while sticking with the 12.04 LTS.  With the Unity interface i usually use the Software Manager to install Synaptic Package Manager and then do all my installs and upgrading from Synaptic.  Dunno what came as

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-16 Thread Tom
Hi :) If you have really been using Ubuntu for 8 years then it seems really strange to try using this thread to contact officials.  I'm sure you would have found better ways over the years.   Also it seems strange that the 1st thing you tried was installing Windows!  Freshly installed

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-16 Thread Martin Wildam
Hi, On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: If you have really been using Ubuntu for 8 years then it seems really strange to try using this thread to contact officials. I'm sure you would have found better ways over the years. I am not sure what is the best way to

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-16 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 9:19 AM, pirast 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Hi Ma, thanks for your commitment :) The Dell support does not have a clue, and on the Ubuntu-side I only have the option to rely on community based support. That's probably the case for many Linux OEM systems. I once

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-15 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 7:42 PM, pirast 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: As part of fixing this bug, you should make sure that Ubuntu certified computers shipping with Ubuntu pre-installed work as good as computers certified and shipped with Windows. Agree. See:

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-15 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:36 PM, pirast 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Well, Ubuntu/Canonical certified that Laptop, so that it gets a shiny Ubuntu sticker and can be sold as Ubuntu certified. I would expect at least some person from Canonical/Ubuntu to look at it before certifying it, so

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-14 Thread Tom
Hi :) An interesting mix of current stats and stories with along with projections that would make sense if people knew about those stats and made intelligent choices based on them!  An extremely high percentage of the worlds supercomputers are already running Linux, the next highest

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-10 Thread Martin Wildam
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Graham ubu...@grahams.idps.co.uk wrote: You are basically saying it's better to stay with the devil you know. I did not want to say, that I find it better to stay with the devil I know - that's the behaviour of the users (regardless what the users say, that's the

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-10 Thread Martin Wildam
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Graham ubu...@grahams.idps.co.uk wrote: I deal with agencies, consultancies and clients and all through I have used Linux machines to do my business. Very rarely I have a stubborn customer who insists you use some Microsoft package. Once I go round the

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-10 Thread houstonbofh
On 12/10/2012 03:35 AM, Martin Wildam wrote: Oh, maybe I shouldn't tell anybody that I am using Linux. This is usually one of the first things I tell just to ensure the cause of the (compatibility) problem can be found faster. - But you are right, I should also pay back with a little

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-09 Thread Tom
Hi :) The problem with the MS Office formats us that they are not consistent across different versions of MS Office itself.  The version they have managed to get registered as an ISO standard is different again.  Even worse is that MS's installer claims there will be inconsistences between even

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-09 Thread Martin Wildam
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Faldegast 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Guess what: He migrated back to Windows as he noticed a whole bunch of workarounds he needed to do. What about virtualbox + Windows + IE? Yes, he could have done that - and tried it. But just think about any hyperlink (be

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-09 Thread Achilles12
.cool@gmail.com Reply-To: Bug 1 1...@bugs.launchpad.net Subject: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share Martin, You are basically saying it's better to stay with the devil you know. I disagree because my experiences are not like yours. Firstly, I never recommend removing a users

RE: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-08 Thread Faldegast
Guess what: He migrated back to Windows as he noticed a whole bunch of workarounds he needed to do. It started with the fact that he as a support-guy needs to use a IE-only trouble ticket system. Attempts with IE under Wine/Playonlinux) failed because of stability issues. What about

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-12-07 Thread Martin Wildam
@John: I am a big advocate of Linux and agree with you that many simply do not know any alternative. I personally do run - against all odds - my Workstation on Ubuntu in a nearly Windows-only company. Nobody, neither in IT nor in management is ever considering Linux (and Mac). And I had a similar

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-11-13 Thread Tom
Hi :) MS never had a majority market-share in computing as a whole.  Most people only notice what happens on the one machine sitting on their desk.  They assume the entire rest of the world must be using exactly the same thing that keeps crashing on their machine, from massive supercomputers to

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-11-13 Thread Martin Wildam
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder how much we should care about mobile market. Apart from phone-calling the mobile market (tablets and smartphones) is mostly for consuming (web surfing, news-reading, video, ...). A real computer (laptop, desktop or

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-11-13 Thread Tom
Hi :) The desktop is not dead.  It's resting.  Regards from Tom :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 Title: Microsoft has a majority market share To manage notifications

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-09-03 Thread Martin Wildam
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Warren Hill 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I think we need to work with schools. When a kid comes home from school saying I need a computer for school then the parents naturally go out and buy something that does the same as the school computer. I already heard

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-07-26 Thread Shaun Husain
Ah sorry to spam after an already long e-mail but one other group I left out that I wanted in the list Gamers, but I believe this will only follow consumer demands like the hardware vendors, since only when there's an audience will a game development company put money into it. On Thu, Jul 26,

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-07-26 Thread Shaun Husain
I believe the major issue is lack of consumer software available in the Linux community. I'm not saying that I don't find tons of open source projects and some of high quality, but there's nothing to compete with the top of the line proprietary graphics and audio software available on Windows and

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-07-25 Thread Tom
Hi :) That would be great, even if they replaced LibreOffice with their flavour of Apache's OpenOffice.  LO and AOO are not really competing with each other so much as they are co-operatively competing with the rather larger rival.  It would be great to see IBM taking on MS.  They might even

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-05-23 Thread houstonbofh
On 05/23/2012 09:30 AM, Hein wrote: ... Need a scanner: no problem for Windows or OSX: just look for the respective logos on the box in the shops. Linux: search for supported devices, read what features are or are not supported, and try to get this (mostly outdated) model. I have actually had

RE: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-05-23 Thread Faldegast
...@bugs.launchpad.net To: faldeg...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share On 05/23/2012 09:30 AM, Hein wrote: ... Need a scanner: no problem for Windows or OSX: just look for the respective logos on the box in the shops. Linux: search for supported devices

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-05-23 Thread Martin Wildam
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Faldegast 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Check for a FOSS Linux driver BEFORE you buy a printer or scanner. If there are a high quality FOSS driver now, there will be decades from now... Indeed - I always check the OS support of the hardware before buying. But

RE: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-05-21 Thread Faldegast
May 2012 09:30:29 + From: 1...@bugs.launchpad.net To: faldeg...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share Hi, while setting up my production 12.04 machine I stumbled upon a few issues, e.g. bug #768931 - no custom icon on launcher displayed for mono

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-05-20 Thread Martin Wildam
Hi, while setting up my production 12.04 machine I stumbled upon a few issues, e.g. bug #768931 - no custom icon on launcher displayed for mono winforms and ogre apps. This bug also crashes/closes the complete unity interface when the user does the wrong click. And the Bug is there since 11.04

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-05-18 Thread Tom
Hi :) +1 Continuing to support 10.04 would be great.  MS seem to have finally stopped supporting Xp except under unusual conditions but it's true they kept adding a few more years on.  Unity has grown fast into a very usable interface.  I thought it would take a couple more years to get this

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-04-30 Thread Tom
Hi :) A fresh install is always better than upgrading.  Also the more steps you take the less likely to be satisfactory.  It's usually possible to upgrade from 1 LTS to the next LTS without upgrading to all the intermediarry 6monthlies.  There is a neat trick for installing any version over

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-04-30 Thread houstonbofh
On 04/30/2012 04:52 AM, Tom wrote: Hi :) A fresh install is always better than upgrading. For whom? Not the non-technical user... Lee -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report.

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-04-16 Thread Tom
Hi :) Both.  But the more important thing is their reasoning.  I might not take the 1st choice of either because our requirements might be completely different or their reasons seem contrary to what i'm looking for (ie neither expensive racers nor mountain bikes are ideal for riding around a

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