I would like to point out some things for those who are willing
to listen:
1) Mark has not stated that the window controls decision has been
finalized. He said that he supported the interface team's decision to
do it this way for the beta. I think we do Ubuntu and the Canonical
team great
I'm against making that change, at least now, without having them a few
months in beta testing for find out all the regression bugs that it
generates and how the people feel about it.
Maybe since the first 10.10 alpha?
The fact that this is an LTS cuts both ways. If I'm confident that
10.10,
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:55 +, j_baer bae...@gmail.com wrote:
My belief is this decision was not made by the flip of a coin, the toss
of a dart, or the personal preference of any single individual. I
believe the concept was discussed, debated, and evaluated as to adding
value to Ubuntu as
On 19/03/10 10:53, Mr. X wrote:
My mouse cursor usually hovers around the right side
of windows because the vertical scroll bars are on the
right. Also, since I read left-to-right, it seems easier to
interact with windows at the right side.
That's a very good point.
There's no sense
No, notifications were not the primary driver.
Why not simply say that you cannot tell us the reason? :)
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[light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633
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Window-Buttons-Editor or *mwbuttons* (Metacity Window Buttons}, as the
original script
was called, (c) 2010 Pablo Seminario pab...@gmail.com.
Is a simple GUI script to place the buttons on the Titlebar in any order,
and right or left.
Create a link, put it in the menu, desktop, menubar, etc.-
On 19/03/10 18:52, Atel Apsfej wrote:
Contrast how the Canonical design team works with how the recent Gnome
hackfest participants communicated what was going on at the event.
http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/London2010
Out of all the listed participants on that page with blogs... how
El vie, 19-03-2010 a las 00:18 +, personman escribió:
OK. Fair warning, this is long as hell, but there were some ideological
differences that I felt needed to be addressed. This is a reply to Mark
which is probably too way long to justify his reading it, but I'm
posting it anyway.
We
Bruno Girin wrote:
sarcasm
disclaimerthis tag may include content you can't see the funny side
of/disclaimer
workaroundplease read the whole post and go have a walk before replying in
anger/workaround
Oh dear! A pre-release version of the next Ubuntu includes a massive
change to an
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 00:41 +, Dave Stroud wrote:
Bruno Girin wrote:
sarcasm
disclaimerthis tag may include content you can't see the funny side
of/disclaimer
workaroundplease read the whole post and go have a walk before replying
in anger/workaround
Oh dear! A pre-release
@aysiu
The problem with your Forums post is that it says this is what really
happened and is, in fact, quite incorrect.
Some members of the design team asked that the window controls be
grouped on the left, and presented the visualisation. So it wasn't that
I prefer it that way. I didn't like it
On 17/03/10 22:34, fewt wrote:
you don't get to second-guess their decisions
You don't get to see a lot of what they see unless you're on that team.
being an open community is not the same as saying everybody has a say in
everything.
There aren't any good reasons for that
we are not voting
Mark, I want to ask you: What is you vision about GnomeShell? It fit's
with what you are planing? Can we see blueprints of you plans?
At first I disliked the change, now I don't care. But I must say that I
hate half baked solutions... like the new GDM (you must admit it, the
default theme is
On 18/03/10 14:01, dariocaruso wrote:
We have for example ubuntu brainstorm, forum, and other ways to comment
your work, but please, you have to say at all community exactly what we can
say about the project and what we can do for canonical EXACTLY.
Brainstorm is great, and lots of good
On 18/03/10 14:07, dayo wrote:
... are not just in it for the buck, like Shuttleworth, who
basically bastardized the true Ubuntu spirit for corporate gain
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29).
Time will tell. I feel quite good about the contribution I'm making, but
you're
On 18/03/10 14:31, Pablo Quirós wrote:
I've read someone who, regarding this matter, said that he is tired of
designers telling him how he should use his computer. And he is right. I
think you are wrong in one thing: you say this is not a democracy, but,
in the end, it is. Design is a
On 18/03/10 17:36, bigbrovar wrote:
Are you saying that those who think that the new design of windows
button placement does not suit them, should take a walk and find
another distro?
No. I'd rather they joined this thread and the ayatana list and
discussed options and ideas there. I wasn't
Well the situation is obvious. The community has in these bugreports
responded with a lot of valid arguments with pros and cons on an
unannounced and appearently irreversible issue. Canonical until now
stated vary vague that it has to do with some experiments due for Ubuntu
10.10. So on this day
On 15/03/10 23:42, Pablo Quirós wrote:
It'd have been nice if this comment had been made some time ago,
together with a deep reasoning on the concrete changes that are in mind.
We are supposed to be a community, we all use Ubuntu and contribute to
it, and we deserve some respect regarding
I don't think many people thought this was a vote. We're not voting, we're
complaining, in the only manner open to us as members of the community - in
a bug report. The problem is that no-one appears to be listening, despite
the excellent arguments against this decision.
And no-one has yet
I have been reading 100s of e-mails and shaking my head.
This left, right buttons issue is turning into a war over trifles.
The Ubuntu Developers have a right to develop Ubuntu anyway they like
(within reason).
YOU (plural) develop new themes and offer them to the users.
The users can make
This change does not really affect me, the only thing I find wrong with this
decision is that ubuntu users where not told about any of the changes which
would happen, and had to find it out themselves from the alpha release :(
On 16 March 2010 09:52, meborc meb...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark - how
Ubuntu is supposed to have one application per task and, more
importantly, sane defaults. Yes, customizability is part of the appeal
of a Linux distro, but the sane defaults should also be a selling point.
So, yeah, put the controls back on the right as they were and then have
a simple radio
Sam, thanks for making the PPA, and I encourage folks who prefer that
layout to use it, or to follow the instructions for setting the gconf
preference manually. It's great that you can do that.
The default position of the window controls will remain the left,
throughout beta1. We're interested
@michael, During karmic release cycle I installed karmic beta on my friends
laptop, he was inspired by ubuntu that its free, how the company afford
something like an OS without getting any money from the user. When I ran the
live session he did not notice but when the installation completed and I
arguments for them, which I cannot
confirm for the light themes.
-Oorspronkelijke bericht-
Van: Omer Akram om2...@gmail.com
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Onderwerp: [Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the
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Yann, please do not assign bugs to someone unless you are responsible
for their tasking. You can assign a bug to yourself, or someone who
works for you, or a team or person in a team that you lead in Ubuntu.
But assigning a bug to someone who is NOT in that list is a bit like me
The issue is not a bug, it's a difference of opinion on what is the best
result. We may change it, or we may hold it.
Mark
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We'll consider it carefully, in the light of all of that information,
and take a decision.
Mark
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I just named a few, prominent applications.
Is it planned to change the button layout in KDE, Xfce, LXDE and all other
desktops too? Cause if not, there will be not only an inconsistency between
Ubuntu and all other distributions and desktops, but also between the
different Ubuntu derivatives.
I run Lucid-alpha3, and the Customized Theme tab / Windows Border tab
(or page)
does not have the option Control: O right O left ?
BavarianPH,
Ubuntu forever!
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