[Bug 454256] Re: Unable to authenticate as user 'root' (I have added a password) OR as current user (account has no password due to end user preference)

2009-12-11 Thread David Samuels
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 393854 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393854 Michael: I found the same problem with a machine on which Karmic had been clean- installed and I, too, like to have a login for root. On another machine, where I had set up a root login previously in

[Bug 454256] Re: Unable to authenticate as user 'root' (I have added a password) OR as current user (account has no password due to end user preference)

2009-12-11 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 393854 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393854 David: what's your problem exactly? You can set up a password for root in Karmic too, it's just that PolicyKit won't allow you to enter the root password to authenticate. I fail to see how upgrading from

[Bug 454256] Re: Unable to authenticate as user 'root' (I have added a password) OR as current user (account has no password due to end user preference)

2009-10-20 Thread MichaelEvans
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 393854 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393854 While I agree that the correct policy would be to (after a clear warning) allow password-less accounts... 'Documentation' in this case should be a CLEAR error message triggered by this combination of events:

[Bug 454256] Re: Unable to authenticate as user 'root' (I have added a password) OR as current user (account has no password due to end user preference)

2009-10-20 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 393854 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393854 That would be a PolicyKit bug. Feel free to provide a patch if you think that feature is worth the pain - or go and discuss that on their mailing list. I don't think anybody else will spend time on that as we

[Bug 454256] Re: Unable to authenticate as user 'root' (I have added a password) OR as current user (account has no password due to end user preference)

2009-10-19 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 393854 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393854 Where would we document this? Do you think we should add a bug red warning on every authentication dialog explaining what we don't want users to do?! The right way is to allow password-less accounts to be

[Bug 454256] Re: Unable to authenticate as user 'root' (I have added a password) OR as current user (account has no password due to end user preference)

2009-10-18 Thread MichaelEvans
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 393854 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393854 The user logged in at the time was NOT root. As I described, I had created a root password (I like su better than sudo -s, and local root login is nicer for servicing a system than the potential alternative

[Bug 454256] Re: Unable to authenticate as user 'root' (I have added a password) OR as current user (account has no password due to end user preference)

2009-10-18 Thread MichaelEvans
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 393854 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393854 I should clarify, this is an issue I encountered trying to unlock the privileged mode of system administration tasks. As an example, adding/modifying users/groups with the tool found in the system menu. It

[Bug 454256] Re: Unable to authenticate as user 'root' (I have added a password) OR as current user (account has no password due to end user preference)

2009-10-18 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 393854 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393854 I like su better than sudo -s, Without more precise reasons for that, please understand we can't take that request into account There are no downsides of using 'sudo -s' versus su. and local root login is

[Bug 454256] Re: Unable to authenticate as user 'root' (I have added a password) OR as current user (account has no password due to end user preference)

2009-10-18 Thread MichaelEvans
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 393854 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393854 Having this behavior isn't in it's self a bug. Not /documenting/ the behavior properly in dialogs related to system administration tools /is/ a bug. Additionally when root ==HAS A PASSWORD== it is a valid

[Bug 454256] Re: Unable to authenticate as user 'root' (I have added a password) OR as current user (account has no password due to end user preference)

2009-10-17 Thread MichaelEvans
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33849674/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: ProcMaps.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33849675/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: ProcStatus.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33849676/ProcStatus.txt -- Unable to

[Bug 454256] Re: Unable to authenticate as user 'root' (I have added a password) OR as current user (account has no password due to end user preference)

2009-10-17 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 393854 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393854 As you half-guessed, most of what you report here is intentional. Namely: 1) we don't want people to log in as root using GDM - logging through the console could make sense, but never using a GUI, where many