Re: llvm 3.7 broken in mint because upstream

2015-12-19 Thread Robie Basak
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:10:44AM +, Jarkko Korpi wrote: > Now the issue. Oipaf doesnt provide llvm 3.7 compiled packages so I could > have more recent opengl extensions because > > "When Ubuntu will provide an llvm that properly build on i386." I'm not familiar with the details, but it

RE: llvm 3.7 broken in mint because upstream

2015-12-19 Thread Robie Basak
ec 2015 13:29:36 + From: Jarkko Korpi <jarkko_ko...@hotmail.com> To: Robie Basak <robie.ba...@ubuntu.com> Subject: RE: llvm 3.7 broken in mint because upstream I don't really understand this 64bit/32bit thing. Even you have 64bit linux, you need 32bit libraries to get things workin

Re: Cacti Update

2015-12-18 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 08:08:44PM +, J Fernyhough wrote: > Taking an educated guess and trying to answer the real question, given > Cacti had a security update very recently: the Cacti package in Ubuntu > is in 'universe' [1]. This means Ubuntu won't necessarily provide > updates, even for

Re: issues using proprietary drivers from open source

2015-11-26 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Sanford, If your goal is to get this packaged in Ubuntu, then the recommended route to doing that currently is by getting it packaged in Debian. And for that, there's the debian-legal list[1] that might help you get Debian's opinion on the legal question involved here. But, as always,

Server team meeting minutes: 2015-11-17

2015-11-20 Thread Robie Basak
* rbasak listed areas that he thinks needs looking at before Xenial feature freeze on 18 Feb. hallyn pointed out that this should be in a blueprint, so rbasak agreed to take an action to create one. Some work item assignments were made for the blueprint. * No other discussion was

Re: Community Council election

2015-11-11 Thread Robie Basak
"Only the single favorite choice will win the poll." Is that right? Or are we voting for a set of seats? Where can I find out who currently has a seat and how many seats there are? The Restaffing wiki page doesn't seem to say, and nor does the main CommunityCouncil wiki page. Robie

Re: Mycroft integration with Unity 8

2015-10-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:06:34AM -0500, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > On 10/23/2015 10:45 AM, Robie Basak wrote: > > > (This is for an unconfined app - I think some changes will be needed to > > the AppArmor profile definitions to make it work confined - for example > > p

Re: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu translations

2015-10-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 07:45:49AM -0500, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote: > Shouldn’t there be a way for Launchpad’s translation focus to change > automatically? As the change depends on some people with admin status, > the neglect is visible, as it has been for a couple of years now. Or in the

Re: problems about dependency of mysql-server-5.5-dbgsym

2015-09-15 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:51:11AM +0800, Gareth wrote: > the same package from different (but related) repo has different > dependencies. One is '(= 5.5.35+dfsg-1ubuntu1)' and another is '(= > 5.5.44-0ubuntu0.14.04.1)'. The first on from trusty and breaks in > installation if I don't set ddebs'

Re: Information about Debian/Ubuntu patches add to packages

2015-08-26 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:32:05AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I don't care much about this package, but wish to know, if there is a file or webpage that mentions all Debian/Ubuntu patches included to a package, with a short explanation what those patches are for, including hints to perhaps

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-21 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 01:19:36PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: JFTR even if there wouldn't be the explained reason to build with the Arch config, then building a vanilla rt-patched kernel from kernel.org without Ubuntu patches still provides a kernel that is absolutely optimised for audio

Re: DPDK for Ubuntu / Debian, let's do it?

2015-07-22 Thread Robie Basak
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 01:06:12AM -0300, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Hey guys, Any plans to package Intel DPDK for Ubuntu? Also, what about integrating Open vSwitch with DPDK (after package ready)? We're looking into this. One of us will probably file an ITP. Some packaging work in progress

Server team meeting minutes: 2015-06-30

2015-07-07 Thread Robie Basak
The meeting was very short with little that needed discussion. * matsubara will be performing SRU verification on bug 1443735 recordfail false positive causes headless servers to hang on boot by default. * The ODS for Tokyo submission is open. * No meeting actions were assigned. *

Re: Proposal v2: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-06-03 Thread Robie Basak
I'm sorry I haven't yet properly replied to this. I have two general comments. First, a user wrote up his concerns about the move to biosdevname here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1347859 which might still be relevant. One thing we should do based on that is to

Re: Backport latest stable virtualization packages to LTS

2015-05-29 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 01:42:34PM -0500, Andrew Martin wrote: ...however some major bugs have been found that I think satisfy one of the When conditions. For example, I discovered a bug that would cause the on-disk XML for a VM defined by

Re: Ubuntu Touch File System

2015-05-19 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 07:06:18PM +0200, astavroula...@os3.nl wrote: In the home directory, there is user information such as photos, music etc in the directories Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos. However, I can't find, for example, actual SMS messages stored there, or the

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-08 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Martin, On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 07:27:39AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: Proposal I propose to retire [mac], i. e. drop /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules and enable [ifnames] by default on all platforms (client, server, touch, snappy), and stop installing

Re: liblockdev1-dev missing pkg-config lockdev.pc file

2015-05-06 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Craig, Thank you for volunteering your time to improve lockdev. On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 11:01:58AM +1000, Craig McQueen wrote: I see that liblockdev1-dev doesn't install a pkg-config lockdev.pc file for the library. It would be helpful to add a lockdev.pc so other programs can more easily

Re: btrfs plans for 15.10/16.04?

2015-04-21 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 03:36:09PM -0400, Bryan Quigley wrote: I'm just wondering if there are any plans to revisit btrfs as the default filesystem before the next LTS? Is it really ready yet? For example, CoreOS reported having issues and switched away in December/January:

Server team meeting minutes: 2015-03-24

2015-03-24 Thread Robie Basak
Review ACTION points from previous meeting The discussion about Review ACTION points from previous meeting started at 16:00. * dannf will look at bug 1427406 data corruption on arm64 soon * Bug 1432715 tomcat7 ftbfs in vivd (test failures) is waiting on a fix in Debian * hallyn has

Re: Updating SSSD for Vivid

2015-02-20 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 05:53:34PM -0200, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Any chances to see the latest SSSD (1.12.4) version for Vivid? Feature freeze was yesterday, so sorry, it's too late for an update in the schedule now. It'll need to wait for Vivid+1. Unless someone wants to drive analysing the

Re: Gambit-C Version needs updating

2015-02-18 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 05:18:26AM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote: So I take it that means the chances are slim to none? :) Feature freeze is tomorrow. I don't have time to look at it myself - sorry - and I suspect many others are in the same boat. signature.asc Description: Digital signature --

Re: Go 1.3 is unmaintained/unsupported upstream

2015-02-13 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:27:14PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: Perhaps Go and the redepends should be removed from the archive then? There does seem to be a fundamental dissonance between upstream's policy and Ubuntu's policies here. With upstream not maintaining bugfix only branches; instead

Re: Anti-feature: installing and replacing applications on update

2015-01-26 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 01:40:54PM +, Bernie wrote: Upgrades simply should NOT do this, they should only upgrade programs which are already installed. [...] Policy changes as to which applications are installed should only happen in new releases. Indeed this is the policy. See [1] for

Re: Move old ldap auth solution from main?

2015-01-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 02:25:13PM -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: Hi, I noticed that libnss-ldap was no longer maintained upstream* (and has a good amount of bugs) and has good replacements available (sssd, but libnss-ldap*d* also works) so I thought it might be a good candidate to move out of

Re: ntp by default on servers in Vivid

2014-12-15 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:59:24AM -0400, Seth Arnold wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 02:51:56PM +0100, Robie Basak wrote: Historically, ntpd would refuse to change the system time beyond a small amount, so ntpdate was run in the initscripts for ntpd to make sure that ntpd could keep things

Re: ntp by default on servers in Vivid

2014-12-15 Thread Robie Basak
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 01:17:33PM -0500, D. Jared Dominguez wrote: Out of curiosity, why ntpd/ntpdate instead of chrony? Chrony is designed to work well on both mobile systems and servers. As I understand, it's also the default of current Fedora and RHEL 7. Having chrony default on

Re: tomcat7 precise package missing security fixes and/or updates

2014-12-09 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Vincent, On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 03:01:07PM +0100, Vincent schurink wrote: It appears that the last security / bugfix update on the precise package was the first of April 2013. In particular our application was found vulnerable to the following CVE's: Important: Session fixation

Re: libcairo2

2014-11-12 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:51:04AM +0100, Marc Balmer wrote: The libcairo2 version in trusty contains a nasty bug that will crash webkit base browser when playing videos (see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81699 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81699) Could

ntp by default on servers in Vivid

2014-10-22 Thread Robie Basak
I'd like to seed ntp in both server and cloud-image in Vivid. Servers should maintain the correct time by default. Please make any objections now. Right now, ntpdate is seeded in minimal. It makes little sense to have both ntpdate and ntp installed. So is there some mechanism I can use to have

Re: ntp by default on servers in Vivid

2014-10-22 Thread Robie Basak
I should add some more related links: Debian making NTP happen by default too is being discussed in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=731594. openntpd was suggested, but this effort seems to have languished, and in Ubuntu we have ntp in main, not openntpd. An ntpdate issue in

Re: ntp by default on servers in Vivid

2014-10-22 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:10:05AM -0400, Bryan Quigley wrote: Could we just switch everything over to ntp? Is their a downside to this I'm missing? Desktop machines may not be online all the time. In this case, ntp won't really work very well, and it might be better just to sync the time when

Re: Virtualbox in Ubuntu

2014-10-01 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 07:45:52PM +0200, m-stl...@use.startmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a question regarding Virtualbox in Ubuntu In the software-center the virtualbox package has unknow as license. Why has virtualbox been switched from universe to multiverse? I see virtualbox in distro

Patch pilot report: 2014-09-25

2014-09-25 Thread Robie Basak
94 items at start, 68 when done, though I think others must have been working through the queue at the same time since that definitely wasn't all me. That's most of what was in the red for unseeded packages looked at. I skipped the GL/GLES armhf stuff since I'm not familiar enough and cannot

Re: What's the plan for PHP support in LTS releases?

2014-09-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 05:30:16PM +0100, Oli Warner wrote: But PHP upgrades also have backwards incompatibilities so SRUing them through is haphazard. Right. Our users don't expect PHP to break for them in the middle of a stable release, so we can't SRU newer releases wholesale. Then at least

Re: What's the plan for PHP support in LTS releases?

2014-09-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:34:28PM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote: Yes, like most packages in Ubuntu, the security team backports security fixes, including for versions that are no longer supported by upstream. Oops. That's so much of a given for me that I didn't even consider that security

Re: My git-based Ubuntu package merge workflow

2014-08-05 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 03:31:03PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: If you maintain a package which already is in git in Debian, I warmly recommend that instead, as locally maintained git branches/patches tend to get lost or outdated. Absolutely. If everything is already in git and logically

My git-based Ubuntu package merge workflow

2014-08-04 Thread Robie Basak
I thought it was about time that I shared my own merge workflow, as I think it is quite different from most other Ubuntu developers. I'm an advanced git user (even a fanatic, perhaps), and I make extensive use of git's interactive rebase feature. To me, an Ubuntu package merge is just a rebase in

Server team meeting minutes: 2014-07-29

2014-07-29 Thread Robie Basak
U Development The discussion about U Development started at 16:00. * Feature freeze is August 21. Note Debian Import Freeze is coming up as well. * The mysql /var/lib/mysql discussion is proceeding, but it seems unlikely that this will happen by feature freeze now. Nevertheless,

Re: Creation of a proper Mono PPA

2014-06-16 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 08:14:48AM -0500, Alexander Trauzzi wrote: Despite that, I'm hoping that somehow we can break this cycle/pattern and have the two sides come together for the sake of any who want the latest greatest C# on Ubuntu. I wish you the best in getting better support on Ubuntu.

Re: Creation of a proper Mono PPA

2014-06-16 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 08:36:21AM -0500, Alexander Trauzzi wrote: Well would you look at that: http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/mono-devel-list/2014-June/041658.html That's great news! Thanks for putting it all together :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature --

Re: Creation of a proper Mono PPA

2014-06-15 Thread Robie Basak
Alexander, On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 10:31:09AM -0500, Alexander Trauzzi wrote: So, be it resolved that the current options for Mono are just not cutting it, I'd like to propose that a PPA or appropriate equivalent be made or an existing official PPA be reworked to meet the following criteria:

Re: Increase default nofile ulimit

2014-06-15 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:10:40PM +0100, Robie Basak wrote: AIUI, there are security implications for raising this limit system-wide by default, since applications that use select() are often broken and will become vulnerable with a higher limit. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives

Re: Increase default nofile ulimit

2014-06-09 Thread Robie Basak
AIUI, there are security implications for raising this limit system-wide by default, since applications that use select() are often broken and will become vulnerable with a higher limit. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-September/031446.html for the previous discussion.

Patch pilot report: 2014-06-03

2014-06-04 Thread Robie Basak
https://code.launchpad.net/~chris-good/ubuntu/trusty/netkit-rwall/fix-for-1277981/+merge/216563 already reviewed by mitya57, awaiting response. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netkit-rwall/+bug/1277981 - duplicate, unsubscribed.

Re: [ubuntu/utopic-proposed] apache2 2.4.9-1ubuntu2 (Accepted)

2014-05-28 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 01:53:19PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: This is not the way to fix issues. You are only hiding the issue and hoping that it won't be your responsibility to fix it properly. I kindly remind you at the mysql-5.5 fix to fall back to an earlier GCC version and blocking

Re: /boot/vmlinuz-* readable only by root, preventing userspace tools like libguestfs from using host kernel.

2014-05-22 Thread Robie Basak
This will probably want the attention of the kernel team for a reply, so forwarding there. Is there maybe a security reason why it is arranged this way? I note that System.map is the same. ---BeginMessage--- permissions on /boot/vmlinuz are 0600, preventing userspace utilities like virt-builder in

Fwd: Standard location to install device tree files?

2014-05-21 Thread Robie Basak
Any comments from the Ubuntu side of things, please? Replies should probably go to the cross-distro list, I guess. The thread is at: http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/cross-distro/2014-May/000676.html Robie ---BeginMessage--- Hi, I've collected a list of where people install their dtb files

Re: errors.ubuntu.com and upgrade crashes

2014-05-19 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 06:42:52AM +1200, Robert Collins wrote: It might be better to flip the logic around and assume most user applications are brittle - refuse to update unless all the user applications running have marked themselves as being update ready/update aware. This puts the user

Re: Support for lucene-fts in dovecot-2.2 (trusty)

2014-05-14 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 04:45:10PM +0200, ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.nk7.net wrote: Is there any specific reason why lucene-fts plugin is not included in the package? It looks like this was fixed in Debian on 10 March, and Ubuntu's feature freeze for Trusty had already passed on 20 Feb, so

Re: linux-ec2 package security fix availability (Lucid)

2014-05-12 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:40:19PM -0700, Tim Heckman wrote: However, it looks like the Packages file for lucid-security hasn't been updated to provide the newer package 'linux-ec2': - http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 linux-ec2 is a

Re: why tomcat depends on libcommons-pool-java

2014-04-22 Thread Robie Basak
Tamas, You can see the reason for the change in the bug linked in the patch header marked Bug-Ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat7/+bug/1071817 HTH, Robie signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Server team meeting minutes: 2014-04-08

2014-04-08 Thread Robie Basak
A few last pieces are being worked in the last couple of days to final freeze. * James Page is struggling to find a release team member to review the docker.io feature freeze exception request (bug 1295093). * The juju-quickstart MIR is deferred; Robie will upload some final bugfixes

Patch pilot report: 2014-03-11

2014-03-11 Thread Robie Basak
I only managed four uploads today. Each item needed a little more depth in some way, so I ran out of time. https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/ubuntu/trusty/open-vm-tools/lp1289564/+merge/210037 Looked good, but couldn't upload. Emailed DMB, permission obtained, and uploaded.

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 02:48:52PM -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking story and before going to a UDS session [1] it was suggested to post to ubuntu-devel. *Network Restart* I'd like to start by asking each of you what you

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 01:32:17PM -0800, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Why was it necessary to have discussions internally when they could have been open by default? (wearing both my Canonical and Ubuntu hats) Are Canonical employees not allowed to speak to each other now? I think you're being

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:32:41PM +0100, Stanisław Hodur wrote: If talking about the network, I would add: *Wifi + Ethernet on Desktop* The network gets lost if you have both wireless and Ethernet connection. The wired network should be the preferred one, as it is usually faster. Or else,

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:44:07PM -0800, Dale Amon wrote: On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:32:41PM +0100, Stanisław Hodur wrote: *Wifi + Ethernet on Desktop* Which reminds me of another common use of machines that a typical GUI user won't think of. I often configure laptops that for security

Re: remove i386 from foreign arch on server install?

2014-02-14 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 09:03:17AM -0500, Scott Moser wrote: Fair. However, the 40M of space *is* permanent waste. In addition, we're promoting doing things in containers more and more - particularly in server deployments. The 40M gets multiplied by the number of containers you have on a

Re: [RFC] Trusty plans for xen-api/xcp

2014-02-10 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 01:45:44PM +, Robie Basak wrote: Unless somebody steps up to maintain xen-api, I don't think it makes sense to continue keeping these packages in Ubuntu, given that Debian have removed them from testing and the existing packages broken (and, it seems, thus stuck

Re: [RFC] Trusty plans for xen-api/xcp

2014-01-31 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 03:23:12PM +0100, Stefan Bader wrote: Debian has removed xen-api/xen-api-libs from testing and were thinking about removing it completely from Sid as nobody cared about it. Citrix is working on some overhaul but have not come forward with something usable, yet. When

Re: Qubes-OS

2014-01-08 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 05:53:06PM -0500, John Moser wrote: Well, they have a large amount of stuff showing how they've demonstrated VM isolation under a paravirtualizing hypervisor to separate out security zones on a single system. X11 is in one VM, some user applications are in another VM,

Re: Including VirtualBox guest drivers in trusty iso.

2013-12-20 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 02:55:11PM +0530, staticd wrote: The drivers (virtualbox-guest-dkms, virtualbox-guest-x11, virtualbox-guest-utils) are in debian and ubuntu repos (universe) and total to only 1.8MB. What about dependencies? DKMS packages need quite a bit of supporting infrastucture

ntp and ntpdate [was: Ubuntu Server seeded package review]

2013-12-12 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 05:15:41PM -0600, C de-Avillez wrote: Although I am probably hammering a rather cold iron, I still fail to understand why ntp is not installed by default. I would expect precise timekeeping to be something important on a server (instead of allowing the time to drift

Re: Ubuntu Server seeded package review

2013-12-03 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 04:33:26PM +, James Page wrote: Hi Folks Description: Default server install [...] wireless-tools wpasupplicant For bootstrapping reasons, it would be nice to keep these on the ISO even if not in the default install. Would there be any real cost to doing this? I

Re: possible to include sampling_down_factor in Ubuntu?

2013-11-19 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 03:21:49PM -0500, Daniel Hollocher wrote: So again, how could this be fixed in Ubuntu? If there are hardware specific optimal values for sampling_down_factor, how would that get included into Ubuntu? Am I right in understanding that this value can be changed at

Re: Ubuntu Platform developers BOF session?

2013-11-08 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 02:09:51PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Nov 08, 2013, at 01:33 PM, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote: H. bzr-builddeb works fine for me. The problem is with the UDD *branches*, which are an unmitigated disaster. Well, not a complete disaster, unless you care

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-05 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 02:11:45AM -0600, Jordon Bedwell wrote: Sounds like bad maintainers justifying being bad if you ask me. Please be respectful. The Ubuntu Code of Conduct applies on this list. It's fine to call out their security policy. That appears to be based on fact. But I don't think

Server Team 20130917 meeting minutes

2013-09-17 Thread Robie Basak
== Agenda == * Review ACTION points from previous meeting * everyone spend extra time triaging bugs this week * Saucy Development * Release Tracking Bug Tasks - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server * Blueprints -

Patch pilot report: 2013-09-17

2013-09-17 Thread Robie Basak
This was my first stint at piloting as a new uploader. Laney was on at the same time and helped me out. Thanks Laney! 67 in the queue at start, 52 at end (thanks to Laney also, who piloted at the same time as me). https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.5/+bug/1121874 bug readiness

Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule

2013-09-03 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 12:05:41PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:01 PM, AG Restringere Since when did Nvidia stop offering the latest downloads via their website? Or is this just an excuse for you to continue to be lazy instead of downloading the source and compiling

Re: dtc: invalid option -- 'i'

2013-08-22 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 07:11:39AM +, Sharma Bhupesh-B45370 wrote: I am using a 64-bit ubuntu machine running a 12.04 LTS. I see that the DTC (Device Tree Compiler) version is 1.3.0 It looks like 1.4.0 was released in Debian a couple of weeks ago:

Re: Problems with 12.10, 13.04, 13.10 server installs

2013-07-25 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:54:09AM -0500, Patrick Goetz wrote: Since the problem also occurs with the 12.10 and 13.04 server ISO's, I'm not sure that logging a bug on launchpad is the right way to go -- the problem is not 13.10 specific. My next step is to make a note of all the grub

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-24 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:59:41PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Has any work been done on concurrent requests? That would likely be pretty broadly useful, not just for cloud images. AIUI, apt-get already supports concurrent requests, but only to diffferent servers at once. From my

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-24 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:59:41PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Has any work been done on concurrent requests? That would likely be pretty broadly useful, not just for cloud images. AIUI, apt-get already supports concurrent requests, but only to diffferent servers at once. From my

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 01:51:46AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: I think most developers would believe the current situation is appropriate. I disagree. By default users have the same access to source and binary packages and for a free software distribution, that is the ethically correct

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:02:02AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: So those are a couple of examples of what I think is definitely not what we want. I'm open to discussion about alternate ways to preserve easy access to the source. How about: $ sudo apt-get source hello Reading package

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:24:31AM +0200, Andreas Moog wrote: andreas@j3515:~$ sudo add-apt-repository The program 'add-apt-repository' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties andreas@j3515:~$ add-apt-repository is not

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 09:31:15PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Before we run off and expend a lot more effort on this, I'd like to see something other than handwaving that this is really is a significant issue. [size comparisions snipped] My concern is latency, not size. How many round

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 01:51:46AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: I think most developers would believe the current situation is appropriate. I disagree. By default users have the same access to source and binary packages and for a free software distribution, that is the ethically correct

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:02:02AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: So those are a couple of examples of what I think is definitely not what we want. I'm open to discussion about alternate ways to preserve easy access to the source. How about: $ sudo apt-get source hello Reading package

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 09:31:15PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Before we run off and expend a lot more effort on this, I'd like to see something other than handwaving that this is really is a significant issue. [size comparisions snipped] My concern is latency, not size. How many round

Re: autopkgtests that fail on stderr output

2013-07-22 Thread Robie Basak
Martin, Thanks for doing this - it'll be much easier for me to write and debug my tests now. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 08:27:17AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: It's a bit unfortunate that Python's unittest defaults to outputting the test progress to stderr (i. e. something which is not an error at

Server Team 20130702 Meeting minutes

2013-07-05 Thread Robie Basak
== Agenda == * Review ACTION points from previous meeting * ''ACTION:'' Daviey set priority on s-cycle BPs * ''ACTION:'' Daviey follow up on missing BPs from overview s-topic * Saucy Development * Release Tracking Bug Tasks -

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-07-03 Thread Robie Basak
It's not much good to know that an app is misbehaving. I'd like to stop it. Having an all-or-nothing choice, like Android, often means that apps get feature creep, and before you know it your apps have far more permissions than you'd prefer. Individually we may know that we have a choice to not

Re: No USN for Chromium on Ubuntu?

2013-06-11 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 01:34:36PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: We just got DSA-2706-1 which upgraded Debian's Chromium to 27 but received no USN for the old version of Chromium in Ubuntu so I was wondering if there was going to be a USN and an update since normally I get USN's before DSA's.

ssh locale passthrough [Re: Systems with invalid locales]

2013-06-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 01:20:22PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: Robbie and I discussed that again, and found a compromise for this which works around our ssh and sudo behaviour and should just do the wrong thing in rare corner cases now, unless of course people actually rely on the current

Re: Systems with invalid locales

2013-06-06 Thread Robie Basak
use case which helps demonstrate the locale issues I'm trying to present here). On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 12:03:10PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: Robie Basak [2013-06-04 9:32 +0100]: c) Make openssh default to not passing the locale across I have always considered this default behaviour of ssh

Systems with invalid locales

2013-06-04 Thread Robie Basak
Is it valid for packages (eg. maintainer scripts) to fail if you have an invalid locale configured? Is such a failure a bug in the package? If it is not, and we expect systems to only work when configured locales are valid, then how should we deal with the use case below? In the case of

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-06-04 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 10:02:09AM +0200, Bolesław Tokarski wrote: On 06/03/2013 09:06 PM, Timo Aaltonen wrote: ldap-auth-config is an ubuntu specific package, which seems to be basically unmaintained for some time now. Then again I don't see why libpam/nss-ldap should be touched, if we're

Re: Support f2fs

2013-05-29 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 01:54:59PM +0300, Anca Emanuel wrote: Any reason to delay gparted 0.16.1 ? or libblkid 2.23 ? It looks like Ubuntu is pretty close to up to date with Debian for both packages, so this question would probably best be directed there. Or, somebody needs to do the packaging

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-24 Thread Robie Basak
Bolesław, Thanks very much for writing this up. It's great to see somebody driving this. I'd love to see better support for corporate authentication to go into Ubuntu. I think you guys are the experts when it comes to technologies used, so I'll step back and watch that unfolds from other experts

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-22 Thread Robie Basak
Another idea about mechanism: It seems to me that apt-get update does two logical tasks which serve two different use cases for many users, one of which is rare and often unnecessary. How about an apt configuration option that, when enabled (default: off), disables source index downloads when

Re: ffmpeg vs libav: Please clarify the situation

2013-05-22 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:54:25PM -0400, John Moser wrote: - libav is garbage, full of hacks, loaded with massive security concerns, breaks things for existing users, and is only used by Ubuntu because it's in Debian and/or because some key Ubuntu/Debian developers are also libav developers.

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Robie Basak
(with my personal hat on) On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 01:48:47PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: I think that's legally sufficient, but not in the spirit of free software. I agree that it's legally sufficient. I also agree that making the sources easily available for download is part of the

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 03:04:20PM +0100, J Fernyhough wrote: On 21 May 2013 13:55, Robie Basak robie.ba...@canonical.com wrote: What if we provided a reasonable message if no deb-src lines are defined, with a single simple command to add them and run apt-get update for you? I don't

Re: Fast remote command execution

2013-05-05 Thread Robie Basak
Oops; intended to reply to list. - Forwarded message from Robie Basak robie.ba...@canonical.com - Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 16:49:59 +0100 From: Robie Basak robie.ba...@canonical.com To: agya naila agya.na...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Fast remote command execution With a shared persistent ssh

Re: Monthly Updates versus Monthly Images

2013-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 09:58:41PM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: Everything gets uploaded into -proposed, FTBFS / installability / components mismatches are sorted out [*] / autopkgtests [*] are run and then the packages are finally migrated by britney into rolling as it is currently done.

Re: reflecting on first UDS session on rolling releases

2013-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 07:34:55AM -0800, Allison Randal wrote: Also remember that, as the idea currently stands, the tiny set of enthusiasts are the only people who will get updated versions of applications. The majority of users will have a stale experience, and no reasonable alternative.

Re: Puppet version bump

2013-02-05 Thread Robie Basak
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:23:37AM -0500, John Moser wrote: OK further research yields that Debian is not updating Sid due to feature freeze for Testing. However, Mathisain notes this: On the other hand, the master packaging branch at

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