On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 01:27:36PM -0700, Jono Bacon wrote:
1. Wayland is pulled in from Debian and maintained in Ubuntu by the
community and Kubuntu and other flavors can use that. This will require
community participation.
I guess that's what we'll have to do. Nobody in the
In case anyone didn't see it, Thomas did some testing of other desktops
running on XMir on Mir:
* XFCE -
https://plus.google.com/u/1/110095242873945299189/posts/93dAjSwbmch
* LXDE -
https://plus.google.com/u/1/110095242873945299189/posts/ZxfdAPrybtn
* GNOME 3 -
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 01:38:09 PM Dmitry Shachnev wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:28:49 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I don't think there's anyone in the Kubuntu team with the skills to pick
up on maintenance of the non-Mir display server stack [...]
I think it is much easier to maintain
Hi Julien,
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:37:50PM +0200, Julien Lavergne wrote:
2013/6/18 Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com:
On 18 June 2013 02:00, Aigars Mahinovs aigar...@gmail.com wrote:
Based solely on comments from this thread, as far as I understand, both
Ubuntu and KDE will maintain the
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:13:02 -0700
Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Hi Julien,
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:37:50PM +0200, Julien Lavergne wrote:
2013/6/18 Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com:
On 18 June 2013 02:00, Aigars Mahinovs aigar...@gmail.com wrote:
Based solely on
On Jun 14, 2013 7:55 AM, Jonathan Riddell jridd...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Here's a discussion I half started as part of vUDS.
The switch to Mir in Ubuntu seems pretty risky for the existance of
Kubuntu, I wonder if other flavours have the same probable problem.
KWin dev has opinions on the
Hey Jono,
I just want to chime in with my impressions from various discussions
and talks to clarify the emotional situation. FWIW, I do not have any
opinion about which technology is better -- I know nothing about this
stuff, just summarizing what I hear/read.
Jono Bacon [2013-06-17 16:47
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Robert Ancell
robert.anc...@canonical.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com
wrote:
On Monday, June 17, 2013 09:52:49 PM Oliver Ries wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Scott Kitterman
On 18 June 2013 07:33, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
- What's the time line? When , if we follow along with Ubuntu, would we
expect to run with XMir instead of X and when would we expect to integrate
with MIR natively?
Based solely on comments from this thread, as far as I
Hi!
2013/6/18 Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com:
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 05:13:33PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I think Jonathon's post earlier today captures the core issue:
On Monday, June 17, 2013 09:05:08 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote:
[...]
As long as Canonical declines to work
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:28:49 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I don't think there's anyone in the Kubuntu team with the skills to pick up on
maintenance of the non-Mir display server stack [...]
I think it is much easier to maintain Wayland stack in Ubuntu than
port all DEs we support to Mir.
As
hi,
On Di, 2013-06-18 at 01:34 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
2013/6/18 Jono Bacon j...@ubuntu.com:
I fully understand if you don't want to work on this problem, and I also
fully understand if the KWin maintainer is uninterested in solving this
problem and would prefer to focus on Wayland,
hi,
On Di, 2013-06-18 at 11:16 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
Hi!
2013/6/18 Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com:
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 05:13:33PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I think Jonathon's post earlier today captures the core issue:
On Monday, June 17, 2013 09:05:08 PM
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 09:00:26 AM Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
On 18 June 2013 07:33, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
- What's the time line? When , if we follow along with Ubuntu, would we
expect to run with XMir instead of X and when would we expect to integrate
with MIR
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:40:34 AM Oliver Grawert wrote:
hi,
On Di, 2013-06-18 at 01:34 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
2013/6/18 Jono Bacon j...@ubuntu.com:
I fully understand if you don't want to work on this problem, and I also
fully understand if the KWin maintainer is
hi,
On Di, 2013-06-18 at 06:08 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 09:00:26 AM Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
On 18 June 2013 07:33, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
- What's the time line? When , if we follow along with Ubuntu, would we
expect to run with
likely won't read (you
cannot be subscribed to every distribution's ML) does not help.
Contacting the upstreams directly on their mailinglists (the KWin ML
or the GNOME Mutter ML) is the step to do.
well, this thread is called non-Unity *flavours* and Mir involving
upstreams would be a secondary
2013/6/18 Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com:
hi,
On Di, 2013-06-18 at 11:16 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
Hi!
2013/6/18 Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com:
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 05:13:33PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I think Jonathon's post earlier today captures the core issue:
Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com wrote:
hi,
On Di, 2013-06-18 at 06:13 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:40:34 AM Oliver Grawert wrote:
as a member of this community that goes into his 9th year with
Ubuntu
and who who knows most of the participants in person, i must
On 06/18/2013 08:04 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com wrote:
hi,
On Di, 2013-06-18 at 06:13 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:40:34 AM Oliver Grawert wrote:
as a member of this community that goes into his 9th year with
Ubuntu
and who who
On 18 June 2013 02:00, Aigars Mahinovs aigar...@gmail.com wrote:
Based solely on comments from this thread, as far as I understand, both
Ubuntu and KDE will maintain the ability to work with X for the foreseeable
timeframe, so this more of a question on which happens first - Ubuntu
stopping
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 01:38:09PM +0400, Dmitry Shachnev wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:28:49 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I don't think there's anyone in the Kubuntu team with the skills to pick up
on
maintenance of the non-Mir display server stack [...]
I think it is much easier to
ML) is the step to do.
well, this thread is called non-Unity *flavours* and Mir involving
upstreams would be a secondary step ...
My comment was about the communication with Wayland
. Speaking to
Wayland developers doesn't make sense anymore, since Ubuntu is doing
Mir now.
i
2013/6/18 Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com:
On 18 June 2013 02:00, Aigars Mahinovs aigar...@gmail.com wrote:
Based solely on comments from this thread, as far as I understand, both
Ubuntu and KDE will maintain the ability to work with X for the foreseeable
timeframe, so this more of a question
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:45:18PM +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
what bothers me in this thread is the attitude more than the topic,
there is an offer for communication and it is declined with a foot
stomping i don't talk to you because you didn't talk to me first
attitude of ten year olds ...
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 07:08:35PM +0400, Dmitry Shachnev wrote:
Thomas said that “In the final setup, Mir will come up early on in the
boot process and act as system-level compositor” — I thought that
would be managed by Upstart. But if that is wrong, things are even
better :)
Starting early
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 01:10:29PM -0700, Jono Bacon wrote:
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
Primary focus for GNOME will be Wayland. There are a few things that
Wayland does not support
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:41:29AM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
Do you have any more details, or opened bugs about the issues?
An X one for example
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=xrr-ubuntu
Jonathan
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On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 07:33:05PM +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
the above is the offer to participate in a platform for conversation
about requirements, it is not like someone forces you to write patches
or so ...
The requirement for KDE (and presumably Gnome) is Wayland.
KWin has been
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 01:10:29PM -0700, Jono Bacon wrote:
Quick question: do you think the GNOME project may be interested in
exploring Mir as a display server to support.
Gnome will have the same issues as KDE - unstable API and ABI and lack of
manpower for a single distro.
Jonathan
On 13-06-17 04:00 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:41:29AM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
Do you have any more details, or opened bugs about the issues?
An X one for example
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=xrr-ubuntu
I was looking for issues that were caused by
On Monday, June 17, 2013 04:22:41 PM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
On 13-06-17 04:00 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:41:29AM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
Do you have any more details, or opened bugs about the issues?
An X one for example
On 06/17/2013 05:13 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Monday, June 17, 2013 04:22:41 PM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
On 13-06-17 04:00 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:41:29AM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
Do you have any more details, or opened bugs about the issues?
An X one
On 17.06.2013 23:00, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:41:29AM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
Do you have any more details, or opened bugs about the issues?
An X one for example
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=xrr-ubuntu
That's simply a regression from upstream, and
On Monday, June 17, 2013 05:54:25 PM Michael Hall wrote:
On 06/17/2013 05:13 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Monday, June 17, 2013 04:22:41 PM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
On 13-06-17 04:00 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:41:29AM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
Do you have
Hi Matthias,
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Matthias Klumpp matth...@tenstral.netwrote:
2013/6/18 Jono Bacon j...@ubuntu.com:
I see this as a trade-off.
Fair point. But you can not expect KDE or GNOME to suddenly jump on
the Mir train. Supporting a new display server is pretty damn hard,
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 05:13:33PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I think Jonathon's post earlier today captures the core issue:
On Monday, June 17, 2013 09:05:08 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 08:01:16PM +0200, Thomas Voß wrote:
Yup :) I think a good way forward is to
On Monday, June 17, 2013 05:32:56 PM Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 05:13:33PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I think Jonathon's post earlier today captures the core issue:
On Monday, June 17, 2013 09:05:08 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 08:01:16PM
06/17/2013 08:37 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Monday, June 17, 2013 05:32:56 PM Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 05:13:33PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I think Jonathon's post earlier today captures the core issue:
On Monday, June 17, 2013 09:05:08 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.comwrote:
On Friday, June 14, 2013 11:09:25 AM Oliver Ries wrote:
[...]
in addition to that I just want to highlight, that Jono and I are working
on creating a forum for all interested Mir stakeholders (e.g. flavors,
but
On 13-06-17 11:01 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Well to start with, we can all acknowledge that everybody just wants to
build something better. And while we obviously have different ideas
about what that means, we can still work together when it makes sense.
There is room enough in our
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:06:45 AM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
On 13-06-17 11:01 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Well to start with, we can all acknowledge that everybody just wants to
build something better. And while we obviously have different ideas
about what that means, we can still work
On Monday, June 17, 2013 09:52:49 PM Oliver Ries wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Scott Kitterman
ubu...@kitterman.comwrote:
On Friday, June 14, 2013 11:09:25 AM Oliver Ries wrote:
[...]
in addition to that I just want to highlight, that Jono and I are
working
on
2013/6/18 Jono Bacon j...@ubuntu.com:
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com
wrote:
The issue isn't that Canonical engineers aren't willing to work with other
people on integrating Mir, it's that because Mir is Ubuntu unique, has no
stable API/ABI, conflicts
On 14.06.2013 18:55, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Friday, June 14, 2013 11:50:05 PM Ma Xiaojun wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com
wrote:
Upstream kwin tells us they already see bug reports from Kubuntu users due
to mesa changes to support Unity. I
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:38:27AM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
As explained various times: GNOME OS is not about replacing
distributions. It is providing a VM which can be used for developers as
well as something which can be
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 01:10:29PM -0700, Jono Bacon wrote:
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
Primary focus for GNOME will be Wayland. There are a few things that
Wayland does not support that X did support. This will result in having
to do things
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:47:43PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
GNOME, well, the future is GNOME OS, period.
As explained various times: GNOME OS is not about replacing
distributions. It is providing a VM which can be used for developers as
well as something which can be used for testing.
E.g. in a
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 02:51:29PM -0700, Jono Bacon wrote:
I suspect X support for GNOME will be around for a while primarily so Red
Hat can continue to serve their customers. We should definitely ensure the
GNOME community are invited to the Mir discussions moving forward, as are
the
Hi Olav,
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
Primary focus for GNOME will be Wayland. There are a few things that
Wayland does not support that X did support. This will result in having
to do things differently. See e.g. the various forms of 'deprecate' is
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
As explained various times: GNOME OS is not about replacing
distributions. It is providing a VM which can be used for developers as
well as something which can be used for testing.
E.g. in a bugreport:
Is it fixed in this
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 05:16:11PM +0200, Thomas Voß wrote:
User sessions then talk to this system-level Mir instance,
including Mir itself. But to state this clearly, XMir will support the
X session scenario on top of Mir.
What about when we move to Wayland?
Jonathan
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On 13-06-14 11:21 AM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 05:16:11PM +0200, Thomas Voß wrote:
User sessions then talk to this system-level Mir instance,
including Mir itself. But to state this clearly, XMir will support the
X session scenario on top of Mir.
What about when we
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 05:25:29PM +0200, Thomas Voß wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Jonathan Riddell j...@jriddell.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 05:16:11PM +0200, Thomas Voß wrote:
User sessions then talk to this system-level Mir instance,
including Mir itself. But to state
On Friday, June 14, 2013 11:15:17 AM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
On 13-06-14 11:04 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Friday, June 14, 2013 03:54:32 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote:
Here's a discussion I half started as part of vUDS.
The switch to Mir in Ubuntu seems pretty risky for the existance of
On Friday, June 14, 2013 11:41:29 AM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
On 13-06-14 11:33 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Friday, June 14, 2013 11:15:17 AM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
On 13-06-14 11:04 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Friday, June 14, 2013 03:54:32 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote:
Here's a
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Jonathan Riddell j...@jriddell.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 05:25:29PM +0200, Thomas Voß wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Jonathan Riddell j...@jriddell.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 05:16:11PM +0200, Thomas Voß wrote:
User sessions then
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Jonathan Riddell j...@jriddell.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 05:16:11PM +0200, Thomas Voß wrote:
User sessions then talk to this system-level Mir instance,
including Mir itself. But to state this clearly, XMir will support the
X session scenario on top of
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
On Friday, June 14, 2013 11:15:17 AM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
On 13-06-14 11:04 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Friday, June 14, 2013 03:54:32 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote:
Here's a discussion I half started as part of
I don't think any DE/WM other than E17, GNOME, KDE can get Wayland
support any time soon; probably never. Therefore, switching to Wayland
can potentially break these DE/WM also; nothing specific about Mir.
E17? Just asked Debian's pkg-e to pakcge E17 0.17; not a first
class-citizen in
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
Upstream kwin tells us they already see bug reports from Kubuntu users due to
mesa changes to support Unity. I don't think it's just a new back end.
I checked mesa source package the other day. It looks more like a
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
As I mentioned, I'm relying on what upstream kwin has said. I know there have
been times (quantal) when Ubuntu moving to a new mesa version in a manner
that, from the perspective of our upstream, was overly
On Saturday, June 15, 2013 12:04:18 AM Ma Xiaojun wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com
wrote:
As I mentioned, I'm relying on what upstream kwin has said. I know there
have been times (quantal) when Ubuntu moving to a new mesa version in a
manner
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:47:43PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
KDE, this one is interesting. The one even tries to support
proprietary OS. The same also claim their CI has very limited distro
coverage so they cannot support distro specific feature. Maybe we
replace Kwin with something else then
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jonathan Riddell j...@jriddell.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:47:43PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
KDE, this one is interesting. The one even tries to support
proprietary OS. The same also claim their CI has very limited distro
coverage so they cannot
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
Kubuntu has always relied on the infrastructure provided in the Ubuntu archive
to build our KDE variant on top of. It's pretty obvious to me that, at some
point, this will no longer be feasible. The Kubuntu team
hi,
On Fr, 2013-06-14 at 17:27 +0100, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:47:43PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
KDE, this one is interesting. The one even tries to support
proprietary OS. The same also claim their CI has very limited distro
coverage so they cannot support distro
On Friday, June 14, 2013 06:41:33 PM Thomas Voß wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jonathan Riddell j...@jriddell.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:47:43PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
KDE, this one is interesting. The one even tries to support
proprietary OS. The same also claim their
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
On Friday, June 14, 2013 06:41:33 PM Thomas Voß wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jonathan Riddell j...@jriddell.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:47:43PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
KDE, this one is
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thomas Voß thomas.v...@canonical.comwrote:
[...]
I think we're all after a good technical solution for which there are
resources to implement. I know it won't happen upstream KDE and I'm
almost as
confident the Kubuntu team is lacking the right skills to
On Friday, June 14, 2013 11:09:25 AM Oliver Ries wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thomas Voß
thomas.v...@canonical.comwrote: [...]
I think we're all after a good technical solution for which there are
resources to implement. I know it won't happen upstream KDE and I'm
hi,
On Fr, 2013-06-14 at 13:12 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Friday, June 14, 2013 11:09:25 AM Oliver Ries wrote:
in addition to that I just want to highlight, that Jono and I are working
on creating a forum for all interested Mir stakeholders (e.g. flavors, but
also ISVs and others) to
I think most of the points have been covered in this thread but I'll just
emphasise a few points:
- The use of Mir in Ubuntu should have no effect on using any alternative
display systems. Some things will gain Mir backends but everything will
continue to support X and Wayland if the upstreams
Il giorno ven, 14/06/2013 alle 13.12 -0400, Scott Kitterman ha scritto:
Historically, one of the great things about Kubuntu has been that we
could rely on the work of the X team to give us a great display system
with up to date hardware support that we didn't have to worry about.
Glad to hear
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 05:27:30PM +0100, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
It's not a case of technical problems it's a case of Mir being
different for no paticular advantage. It's a political problem of
I for one am looking forward to finally having a fix for
http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/49579
Time
On 14 June 2013 12:48, Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com wrote:
is kwin upstream planning to drop X support as well ? seems running
kubuntu with kwin on top of XMir is no problem (unless i read other
mails in this thread wrong)
I expect GNOME (meaning GNOME Shell on top of GDM) to switch to
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 14 June 2013 12:48, Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com wrote:
is kwin upstream planning to drop X support as well ? seems running
kubuntu with kwin on top of XMir is no problem (unless i read other
mails in this thread
On 14 June 2013 17:51, Jono Bacon j...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I suspect X support for GNOME will be around for a while primarily so Red
Hat can continue to serve their customers.
RHEL 7 is expected to release later this year with X. I don't think we
can rule out RHEL 8 shipping with Wayland by
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