Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Although, In Harry's defence I'd like to point out that using tasksel for a LAMP installation does at least give you a choice of apache2 or lightpd. So, php should not really be dragging anything in as a 'depends'. Those wishing to install LAMP can do so quite easily. Regards, Phill. On Fri,

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Harry Strongburg
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: php5 installs everything related to PHP, which includes the web server module. If you only want the command line interpreter, but none of the web stuff, just install php5-cli instead. But I dare to claim that most

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Micah Gersten
On 08/13/2010 02:06 AM, Harry Strongburg wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Martin Pittmartin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: php5 installs everything related to PHP, which includes the web server module. If you only want the command line interpreter, but none of the web stuff, just install

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Micah Gersten
Ccing the list back On 08/13/2010 02:31 AM, Harry Strongburg wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Micah Gersten mic...@ubuntu.com mailto:mic...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 08/13/2010 02:06 AM, Harry Strongburg wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Martin

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Joshua Timberman
Hello! On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: Because sensible defaults are necessary. You get your choice of Apache or something else. If you selected another httpd on install and php5 dragged in apache, that might qualify as a bug. If you selected nothing, well you get

Emergent: Oracle's behavior re Java

2010-08-13 Thread John Moser
http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/08/13/0255205/Oracle-Sues-Google-For-Infringing-Java-Patents Emergent news. I want to raise the question on what to do about this if it persists. We're too early to call this another SCO fight (Ko fight?), but I'm not the only person in the world with a strong

Re: Emergent: Oracle's behavior re Java

2010-08-13 Thread Evan
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:00 AM, John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com wrote: http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/08/13/0255205/Oracle-Sues-Google-For-Infringing-Java-Patents Emergent news. I want to raise the question on what to do about this if it persists. We're too early to call this another

Re: Maverick Alpha3 +nvidia-96 +updates

2010-08-13 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2010 10:53 PM, Robert Hooker wrote: ... You are going to have to use nouveau for now, the proprietary nvidia-96 and nvidia-173 drivers do not work with xserver 1.9 and most likely will not until right before release. 256.44 that is in ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates does work for the

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Louis Simard
At 2010-08-13 08:39 GMT, Joshua Timberman jos...@opscode.com wrote: Hello! On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: Because sensible defaults are necessary.  You get your choice of Apache or something else.  If you selected another httpd on install and php5 dragged in apache, that

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Evan
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Louis Simard louis.sim...@gmail.com wrote: At 2010-08-13 08:39 GMT, Joshua Timberman jos...@opscode.com wrote: Hello! On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: Because sensible defaults are necessary.  You get your choice of Apache or something

Re: Emergent: Oracle's behavior re Java

2010-08-13 Thread Bruno Girin
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 09:11 -0400, Evan wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:00 AM, John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com wrote: snip Something to keep in mind is that this won't just affect Ubuntu. If this does become a major issue, Debian will have to deal with it, Mono (as a project/community)

Re: Emergent: Oracle's behavior re Java

2010-08-13 Thread Manish Sinha
To be honest, I don't think Ubuntu has to worry about this. Irrespective of whether Oracle's actions are justified or not, the underlying reason why they are going after Google is that the version of Java that runs on Android is very bastardised, is incompatible with any Java edition (JME,

Re: Emergent: Oracle's behavior re Java

2010-08-13 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 03:12 +0530, Manish Sinha wrote: snip They are going after Google as they think they can make a huge amount of money since Google has deep pockets. If Google bends, then the patent deals would be a huge monetization for Oracle. As I said, DVM is not JVM and has