Re: Questions About Ubuntu One Music Store

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2012-11-03 at 02:02 -0500, Ma Xiaojun wrote: 1. Where is the discussion channel? I know this list may not be a good choice. #ubuntuone on Freenode IRC. 2. Why is it available in English only? I find it annoying to find Chinese artists and songs using English names. I guess

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 09:45:59AM -0300, German Larrain M. wrote: Well, issues like this are the ones that motivate a fork (e.g. OpenOffice and LibreOffice) at one time or another. Is it necessary to reach that point? I don't think so. It

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Robie Basak robie.ba...@canonical.com wrote: Forks happen when people disagree. Is there really any disagreement here? Have any privacy-related patches actually been rejected, or is it just that nobody has written them? Patches being rejected are a bit narrow,

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread J Fernyhough
On 5 November 2012 15:08, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote: -- snip -- I think what Canonical and Ubuntu are doing is alienating old Linux users who are used to telling their computers what to do, not having their computer tell them what they are going to do and then them having to

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Albisetti
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:28 PM, J Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com wrote: (As an aside, it appears that being only enthusiastic about Ubuntu and all decisions, or at least getting in line, is a requisite for employment there.) It is not. -- Martin -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Bruno Girin
On 05/11/12 15:08, Jordon Bedwell wrote: We've just had the Ubuntu Developer Summit during which the next release was planned, and everyone was welcome (both in person and online). I must have missed the session on privacy, or did nobody propose one? I don't think there was one, I think this

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Nov 5, 2012 7:53 AM, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/11/12 15:08, Jordon Bedwell wrote: We've just had the Ubuntu Developer Summit during which the next release was planned, and everyone was welcome (both in person and online). I must have missed the session on privacy, or

Re: Questions About Ubuntu One Music Store

2012-11-05 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: The store does not have stores for all regions, and in China you perhaps may be seeing the world store. The songs and artist names are probably translated in the store provider's database for the other stores. Now

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 15:52 +, Bruno Girin wrote: It's a couple of weeks late for UDS-R but what about creating a blueprint for UDS-S? Get the discussion going, gather examples of privacy issues and what could be done to address them. Then at the next UDS, we can work out solutions that

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 11:53:03 AM Rodney Dawes wrote: ... There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in after various freezes were in effect. ... That's also true of the shopping bits of dash search itself, so without time travel,

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 5 November 2012 11:53, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in *after* various freezes were in effect. One example is http://pad.lv/1065652 which while obviously a user interface

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jeremy Bicha jer...@bicha.net wrote: One example is http://pad.lv/1065652 which while obviously a user interface change, happened after Final Freeze without the typical paperwork; presumably because it was *that* critical to mitigate the privacy concerns. I

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Didier Roche
Le 05/11/2012 18:14, Jeremy Bicha a écrit : On 5 November 2012 11:53, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in *after* various freezes were in effect. One example is http://pad.lv/1065652

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 12:11 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, November 05, 2012 11:53:03 AM Rodney Dawes wrote: ... There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in after various freezes were in effect. ... That's also true of the

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Johnston
On 11/05/2012 11:32 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: On Nov 5, 2012 7:53 AM, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com Or is it the case that nobody bothered to file a blueprint? Bear in mind that *anybody* in the community can create blueprints for UDS, not just Canonical. Anyone can create one but

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 5 November 2012 13:19, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: I don't know if it's been done before or not, but perhaps the Release Team, and Tech Board, should take up any concerns related to some of the Canonical projects' involvement in that process, with the appropriate members

Re: Questions About Ubuntu One Music Store

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 10:39 -0600, Ma Xiaojun wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: The store does not have stores for all regions, and in China you perhaps may be seeing the world store. The songs and artist names are probably translated in

Re: Questions About Ubuntu One Music Store

2012-11-05 Thread James Haigh
On Nov 5, 2012 2:27 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: ... Some tracks are available in FLAC (and possibly other formats) from the provider, but those are not readily available through the Ubuntu One store, due to various technical reasons. This needs fixing. I once tried

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 12:14:51 PM Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 5 November 2012 11:53, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in *after* various freezes were in effect. One example is

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 08:32:35 AM Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Or is it the case that nobody bothered to file a blueprint? Bear in mind that anybody in the community can create blueprints for UDS, not just Canonical. Anyone can create one but Canonical does approve them. There are a

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 01:19:51 PM Rodney Dawes wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 12:11 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, November 05, 2012 11:53:03 AM Rodney Dawes wrote: ... There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 13:58 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: I don't know if it's been done before or not, but perhaps the Release Team, and Tech Board, should take up any concerns related to some of the Canonical projects' involvement in that process, with the appropriate members of

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-11-05 Thread James Haigh
On Oct 31, 2012 11:50 AM, Daniel J Blueman dan...@quora.org wrote: ... Don't get me wrong; I love developing on Ubuntu and Linux and use it exclusively in my professional and personal life. Now, I'd love to hear why this (IMHO regression) made sense.. I haven't seen it, but if so, this is part

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 02:27:06 PM Rodney Dawes wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 13:58 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: I don't know if it's been done before or not, but perhaps the Release Team, and Tech Board, should take up any concerns related to some of the Canonical projects'

[Idea] PhoneGap support for Ubuntu

2012-11-05 Thread Ma Xiaojun
This is inspired by the following post: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-November/msg6.html Since Ubuntu is heading towards Tablets and mobile phones now. It would be very nice if we also join the PhoneGap camp. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: [Idea] PhoneGap support for Ubuntu

2012-11-05 Thread James Haigh
Hi, Please take a look at Kivy. It aims at crossplatform multitouch support for both mobile and desktop. Anyone looking at web-based apps as a way to be crossplatform should consider Kivy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kivy James. On Nov 6, 2012 1:06 AM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Idea] PhoneGap support for Ubuntu

2012-11-05 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM, James Haigh james.r.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Please take a look at Kivy. It aims at crossplatform multitouch support for both mobile and desktop. Anyone looking at web-based apps as a way to be crossplatform should consider Kivy.

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-11-05 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:35 PM, James Haigh james.r.ha...@gmail.com wrote: We use Free software. That's Free as in Freedom. But in reality, users do not get that freedom, only developers. In order to be Free to modify the software, you have to know how to do that. Even developers don't know

Re: [Idea] PhoneGap support for Ubuntu

2012-11-05 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/11/6 Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com: This is inspired by the following post: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-November/msg6.html Since Ubuntu is heading towards Tablets and mobile phones now. It would be very nice if we also join the PhoneGap camp. This