Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Although, In Harry's defence I'd like to point out that using tasksel for a LAMP installation does at least give you a choice of apache2 or lightpd. So, php should not really be dragging anything in as a 'depends'. Those wishing to install LAMP can do so quite easily. Regards, Phill. On Fri,

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Harry Strongburg
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: php5 installs everything related to PHP, which includes the web server module. If you only want the command line interpreter, but none of the web stuff, just install php5-cli instead. But I dare to claim that most

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Micah Gersten
On 08/13/2010 02:06 AM, Harry Strongburg wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Martin Pittmartin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: php5 installs everything related to PHP, which includes the web server module. If you only want the command line interpreter, but none of the web stuff, just install

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Micah Gersten
Ccing the list back On 08/13/2010 02:31 AM, Harry Strongburg wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Micah Gersten mic...@ubuntu.com mailto:mic...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 08/13/2010 02:06 AM, Harry Strongburg wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Martin

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Joshua Timberman
Hello! On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: Because sensible defaults are necessary. You get your choice of Apache or something else. If you selected another httpd on install and php5 dragged in apache, that might qualify as a bug. If you selected nothing, well you get

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Louis Simard
At 2010-08-13 08:39 GMT, Joshua Timberman jos...@opscode.com wrote: Hello! On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: Because sensible defaults are necessary.  You get your choice of Apache or something else.  If you selected another httpd on install and php5 dragged in apache, that

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-13 Thread Evan
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Louis Simard louis.sim...@gmail.com wrote: At 2010-08-13 08:39 GMT, Joshua Timberman jos...@opscode.com wrote: Hello! On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: Because sensible defaults are necessary.  You get your choice of Apache or something

Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Harry Strongburg
Why is apache2 in the default Ubuntu install? I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS today, and the upgrade procedure installed Apache2 onto my box, even though I have had it autoremoved for a long time. It also did this on another server I upgraded, and that server runs lighttpd too! Selecting

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Krenar Qehaja
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Harry Strongburg harry.ubu...@harry.luwrote: Why is apache2 in the default Ubuntu install? It is not AFAIK. I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS today, and the upgrade procedure installed Apache2 onto my box, even though I have had it autoremoved for a long time

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
Harry Strongburg harry.ubu...@harry.lu wrote: Why is apache2 in the default Ubuntu install? I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS today, and the upgrade procedure installed Apache2 onto my box, even though I have had it autoremoved for a long time. It also did this on another server I upgraded

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Harry Strongburg
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 09:34:24PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: It's not in the default install. Look at the output of aptitude why apache2-mpm-prefork to see what pulled it in. So it just happened to have been auto-installed on all the boxes I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04? That's weird.

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Phillip Whiteside
/Apache_HTTP_Server On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Harry Strongburg harry.ubu...@harry.luwrote: Why is apache2 in the default Ubuntu install? I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS today, and the upgrade procedure installed Apache2 onto my box, even though I have had it autoremoved for a long time. It also did

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
Harry Strongburg harry.ubu...@harry.lu wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 09:34:24PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: It's not in the default install. Look at the output of aptitude why apache2-mpm-prefork to see what pulled it in. So it just happened to have been auto-installed on all the boxes

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Harry Strongburg
. Why is apache2 in the default Ubuntu install? I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS today, and the upgrade procedure installed Apache2 onto my box, even though I have had it autoremoved for a long time. It also did this on another server I upgraded, and that server runs lighttpd too

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello Harry, Harry Strongburg [2010-08-13 4:55 +]: I found out why though, it's packaged with php5, which is also pretty stupid to do. If a user installs PHP, they should also install any httpd they want. Not Apache automatically. php5 installs everything related to PHP, which includes