Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-11-19 Thread yannubu...@gmail.com
I could reproduce the bug with 12.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1080722 Regards Yann 2012/11/6 Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com: On 31 October 2012 11:49, Daniel J Blueman dan...@quora.org wrote: I'd love to hear what other users and developers think about

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-11-06 Thread Colin Law
On 31 October 2012 11:49, Daniel J Blueman dan...@quora.org wrote: I'd love to hear what other users and developers think about this: The refreshed update manager (almost) always displays The computer needs to restart to finish installing updates, with a default button Restart highlighted.

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-11-05 Thread James Haigh
On Oct 31, 2012 11:50 AM, Daniel J Blueman dan...@quora.org wrote: ... Don't get me wrong; I love developing on Ubuntu and Linux and use it exclusively in my professional and personal life. Now, I'd love to hear why this (IMHO regression) made sense.. I haven't seen it, but if so, this is part

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-11-05 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:35 PM, James Haigh james.r.ha...@gmail.com wrote: We use Free software. That's Free as in Freedom. But in reality, users do not get that freedom, only developers. In order to be Free to modify the software, you have to know how to do that. Even developers don't know

Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-10-31 Thread Daniel J Blueman
I'd love to hear what other users and developers think about this: The refreshed update manager (almost) always displays The computer needs to restart to finish installing updates, with a default button Restart highlighted. Not only that, the window close button is not present. This is *exactly*

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-10-31 Thread yannubu...@gmail.com
2012/10/31 Daniel J Blueman dan...@quora.org: I'd love to hear what other users and developers think about this: The refreshed update manager (almost) always displays The computer needs to restart to finish installing updates, with a default button Restart highlighted. Not only that, the

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-10-31 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Daniel J Blueman dan...@quora.org wrote: I'd love to hear what other users and developers think about this: The refreshed update manager (almost) always displays The computer needs to restart to finish installing updates, with a default button Restart

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-10-31 Thread Daniel J Blueman
On 1 November 2012 00:41, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Daniel J Blueman dan...@quora.org wrote: I'd love to hear what other users and developers think about this: The refreshed update manager (almost) always displays The computer needs to restart

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-10-31 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Daniel J Blueman dan...@quora.org wrote: I was thinking along the lines of we have something in the indicator area to avoid forgetting to reboot. Point is, it's almost certainly not a convenient time to reboot after you just opened up to get something actually

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-10-31 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:09:09PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: That's a subjective point of view, if libssl is vulnerable or the kernel is vulnerable you need to restart too, not because you can't restart services or use a rolling Kernel (read KSplice) but because there are multiple ways to

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-10-31 Thread John Moser
On 10/31/2012 06:45 PM, Dale Amon wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:09:09PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: That's a subjective point of view, if libssl is vulnerable or the kernel is vulnerable you need to restart too, not because you can't restart services or use a rolling Kernel (read