Looks like Henrik's deb can be considered a solution to this bug. I
gather it's a kernel patch so reassigning this bug to the kernel.
Henrik, it'd be great if you could post a link to the sources of the
deb, or outline your plan of attack for getting this incorporated into
natty. Thanks!
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Works amazingly well on Maverick! One question though: when is it going
to be available on Natty?
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I have wrestled with this lots, and the problem is that no two people
describe it as the same problem.
For some people, the mouse/touchpad driver or module is just wrong. I
believe they are the minority.
The majority are people who have working devices, but can't figure how
to configure them
Sorry to repeat this, but there still seems to be a problem with the two
finger scrolling recognition if the fingers are too close together, as
reported in posts #155 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source
/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/308191/comments/155) and #168
With the 1.1.1 version installed on my HP Pavilion dv7, the two fingered
scroll is now available and works like a charm! The right-button patch
from bug #582809 doesn't appear to be compatible, but I haven't tried
installing the right button patch first and then this package. I do not
have a
I should add that (without changing any settings) I am getting right
click functionality if I double-tap with two fingers.
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One final note on right-button functionality and then I stop bugging
you: The strip across the bottom area of my trackpad is a button.
Clicking anywhere on that button (right or left) with one finger is a
left-click and clicking anywhere with two fingers is a right click.
Theoretically, clicking
Glad it works, and thanks for all the reports! There is a path for
clickpads now, although it may be a while before it materializes. It
should be a different bug, anyways, as this bug should soon be marked
fixed. Happy new year!
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I'd appreciate it if somebody would figure out the initialization
sequence for that magic driver mentioned in bug 546697 ... there's
absolutely zero activity there.
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Multi-finger now detected on Asus 1005PE with the latest patch.
Synaptics Capabilities (292): 1, 0, 1, 1, 1
synclient -m reporting multiple fingers
7.001 3396 3521 84 2 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8.002 3393 3503 84 2 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9.002
Success on a asus eeepc 1001px.
Thanks !
mathieu
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With version 1.1.1 on Acer Aspire 8943G now detected three-finger tap.
Before with version 1.1.0 it's not wotking.
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Still have the greyed out option for 2 finger scrolling with the 1.1.1
release Lenovo t61p on 10.10 x64 dont really have any idea why.
some hopefully useful information:
xinput list
Virtual core pointerid=2[master pointer (3)]
⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer
The jumpiness is gone for me in the 1.1.1 release, thanks so much!
The only remaining problem is that if the fingers are too close
together, instead of scrolling the cursor would move.
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@anton: the click pad issue is a separate problem, which is also being
worked on.
The attached package is for maverick only, and is similar to the final
final upstream version. Should appear in natty in the beginning of the
new year. Thanks to everyone reporting!
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I suffered from the issue with the ridiculous cursor jumping on
Maverick, and it was fixed with an update to the latest version.
However, after restarting a second time (the first time being
immediately after the update), the cursor jumping is back.
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After I updated my computer, it started working on SONY VAIO VPCCW16FG,
two finger scroll as well as two finger right click. Option in the Gnome
touchpad tab Two finger scroll is not greyed now..
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I don't know if I should report this here or in the clickpad buttons bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/582809
I've tested the 1.1.0 package, and it compiles Ok and works of for two finger
scroll and three finger paste.
But with clickpads, you cannot click+drag, because as they heve a full
@Henrik: Version 1.1.0 works perfectly on my System76 Lemur2! Thanks much!
One question, is there a way to configure the two and three finger tap actions?
I'd like to have two finger tap be middle click and three finger tap be right
click.
Again, thanks for your work, this is excellent!
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@Nathan: you can do
xinput set-int-prop Synaptics Tap Action 8 0 0 0 0 1 2 3
See 'man synaptics' for more info. If you run this from Startup Applications
the settings will get overridden by Gnome's (which doesn't appear to have a way
to configure this) as it sets itself up. What I have is a
You should be able to stop Gnome overwriting your settings if you
disable its mouse plugin by navigating to
apps/gnome_settings_daemon/plugins/mouse/ in gconf-editor and un-
ticking active, then configure manually with a file in xorg.conf.d
(see man sysnaptics for syntax).
@Henrik:
Could you
You should be able to stop Gnome overwriting your settings if you
disable its mouse plugin by navigating to
apps/gnome_settings_daemon/plugins/mouse/ in gconf-editor and un-
ticking active, then configure manually with a file in xorg.conf.d
(see man sysnaptics for syntax).
@Henrik:
Could you
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Here is a second version, still for maverick (2.6.35), but with both
three-finger support and MT support. This package is very close to the
final upstream version. Release in natty will follow on positive test
results. Enjoy!
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Three-finger tap works for me! If I knew what MT is I would have
testet that as well :P
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deb package builds ok with 2.6.35-24 kernel.
Package performs very well on two finger scrolling, with only some problems
when the two fingers are very close (Same problem but worse in a Win7 install
that I did only for test win. synaptic driver).
Main problem is that it lacks detection of click
Works like a charm on Acer Travelmate 5320 running Maverick,
2.6.35-23-generic kernel (64-bit). Like the 'new' multitouch features.
Thanks guys for all the hard work !!
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Still doesn't work in Natty, same output as in #134 comment.
Using 2.6.37-8-generic kernel.
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Installed on my HP Pavillion dv5. Two-finger taps work, but two-finger
scrolling is still grayed-out in mouse preferences.
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installed on my asus eeepc 1215n 10.10 and it works nicely.
i'm sorry for the three-finger-tap issue, it would be very useful...
thank you
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I installed the patch, but unfortunately the synaptics capabilities are still
reported as
Synaptics Capabilities (272): 1, 0, 1, 0, 0
Its for Sony vaio VPCCW16FG laptop with a synaptics touchpad supporting
true multitouch in windows.
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@Jim Rorie
Thank you for the hint with post #8. I was able to reproduce the cursor
jumpiness both with the script and the newly installed package (when
two-finger scrolling is turned off). It turned out that the jumpiness is
more extreme with the package, the cursor really makes a huge leap and
I have reverted back to using two-finger emulation, because I just can't
get used to two-finger scrolling with the fingers apart, that is really
unconvenient (same thing as with Windows and official Synaptics driver).
synclient -m 100 reads as follows :
two fingers apart : 2 fingers registered,
@Ricco, carmaxx: you may want to file separate bug reports against the
synaptics-dkms package since your issues seem hardware-dependent. In my
case (Asus Eee PC 1201N), the dkms driver works better than emulation
(no need to keep the fingers apart), and there is no jumpiness when
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Actually, carmaxx's bug is already reported in the thread. If you look
at comment #8, you will see the symptoms described. What he is
experiencing is the same bug, except now mutlitouch is working and the
jumping is affecting his scrolling. I don't know if these bugs are
directly related, but
Reporting bugs in comments is not how the system works. Different bugs
must be reported separately.
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Comment #8 is describes freedesktop-bugs #21614, which is attached as
THIS bug. (See Affects and assigned to)
That's what I'm saying. Per the launchpad specs, it is THIS bug until
someone changes that.
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Sorry, I thought you implied that another bug shouldn't be opened since
this one already exists. The freedesktop bug should probably not be
linked from this bug (nor should it link back to this bug) since they
are not the exact same thing: this one is for multitouch support, the
freedesktop one is
Thinkpad Edge 13 0196CTO w/ Ubuntu 10.10; 'sudo dpkg -i synaptics-
dkms_1.0.0_all.deb', reboot and the trackpad two-finger scroll works
great!
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@Henrik : works on my Dell Studio 1747, thanks !
However ,the two fingers need to be somewhat apart for it to work, while
they could be joined when using two-finger emulation. I could get used
to it but it feels quite annoying. Anyone else noticed this ?
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I've tried to enable the multi-touch feature on my Samsung NC10 touchpad
enabled (Synaptics) but I did't find a way for correctly do it working.
I've started from this how-to
It works on my Lenovo U450p on 10.10, thanks a million!
However, the scrolling is somewhat inaccurate while it wasn't so with
the latest touchpad driver on Windows or with the script under Ubuntu
10.10 that I used so far. The scrolling sometimes seems to 'jump' back
in the opposite direction.
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I have an HP dm1z with an ALPS trackpad that supports multitouch. Running
Maverick Meerkat 64bits.
I tried the synaptics-dkms package from post #116, but nothing happened.
xinput -list produces PS/2 Generic Mouse for the mouse.
synclient -l produces: Couldn't find synaptics properties. No
@fiacobelli : well, you are telling us your touchpad is made by ALPS,
this is designed for Synaptics touchpads so it won't work on your ALPS.
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Mmm... Package could not be installed in Natty:
$ sudo dpkg -i synaptics-dkms_1.0.0_all.deb
(Reading database ... 187713 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace synaptics-dkms 1.0.0 (using synaptics-dkms_1.0.0_all.deb)
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Unpacking replacement synaptics-dkms ...
Could it be because of the 2.6.37-kernel? I got RC2 installed in
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this development. Will the PPA you provided above be regularly updated,
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Thanks , Installed and functioning on Samsung NC10
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successfully installed the package on
Dell Adamo
Ubuntu 32bit
Kernel 2.6.35-22-generic
Many thanks to Henrik!
@Henrik: Is it possible to change the scroll behavior to roll instead being
very exact? The scrolling depends then on the speed of the fingers and does
not abruptly stop when
I can report that it installed and functioning successfully on Lenovo
ThinkPad X201 - i5.
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@Henrik;
on an HP Envy15, works in terms of allowing two finger scroll two-
finger-tap-as-right-click, but having some problems related to/in
addition to #582809 due to clickpad (hinged on top edge, with buttons
on the bottom edge):
-right and middle mouse button areas of click pad register as
@Henrik, why do I get this when trying to install?
ERROR: binary package for synaptics: 1.0.0 not found
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@baptist: The process of adding this functionality to future releases of
ubuntu and mainline is ongoing, and has been for some time. The utouch
package is based on the upcoming mainline solution.
@tob: The kernel will provide MT data, and Clickpads and Macbook
integrated trackpads will be served
Thanks so much for this package! This is huge! My report:
Prior to all this I haven't done anything deviating from a default 10.10
installation with anything related to the touchpad. I installed the
synaptic-dkms package for the utouch PPA about 14 hours ago.
After reboot I was able to select
What is missing from all synaptics drivers is support for three
individual fingers, i.e., real multitouch support. However, most
firmwares are capable of detecting three objects on the pad, so there is
still hope that this information can be enabled.
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Thanks! Now when I check my touchpad capabilities with xinput, I get
Synaptics Capabilities (305): 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, and two finger
scrolling works.
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For maverick users: the attached dkms package should provide multitouch
support for a family of synaptics touchpads. Install and reboot. Please
report both success and failure here. Thanks!
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I just tried in on a Asus EEE 1005HA, using Maverick x86
(2.6.35-23-generic).
Two-finger scrolling (both horizontal and vertical) works wonderfully,
as does tapping with two fingers. It doesn't seem to detect a 3-finger
tap, though. Then again, I don't know if my touchpad has the hardware
@Henrick
Thats a WOW!! thing
I will try it as soon as I get my laptop back from repair..
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Brad Greco grecob...@gmail.com wrote:
I just tried in on a Asus EEE 1005HA, using Maverick x86
(2.6.35-23-generic).
Two-finger scrolling (both horizontal and vertical)
@Henrick
Works like a champ on a Sony VPCS111FM.
You sir, are a god among men. Revel in your awesomeness. :)
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Glad it works. :-)
Credit for finding out the hardware protocol goes to Takashi Iwai. Chase
Douglas put the pieces together and sent the first batch upstream. Chris
Bagwell did further improvements and cleanup.
I have uploaded the package to the ppa:utouch-team/utouch, it should be
available
@Henrik
Works beautifully on my ThinkPad T510. Horizontal/Vertical two-finger
scrolling and two-finger tapping all work, and better than the driver on
Windows 7 I might add.
Thanks.
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Are there any plans to release this fix as part of a mainline release of
Ubuntu, either a future version, or as an update to Lucid or Maverick?
Or will I always have to manually use the PPA?
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Works perfect on a Dell Studio 1458 (aka Dell Studio 14). Thank you!
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Your dkms package moves the Clickpad button detection to xorg-input. I know
that Takashi released a number of patches for xorg-input-synaptics to handle
pinch-zoom, rotate, Clickpad button detection, Clickpad LED support, etc. How
does this fit in with uTouch? The Clickpad buttons
Hi there
I don't know what's the current status of the bug. However there's a bug
#50626 which got some idea of hacking the windows driver using virtual
box
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@Gursimran
I think you posted the wrong bug #. Nevertheless, I have already used
VirtualBox to determine the initialization sequence and multitouch protocol;
see post #94. Furthermore, Takashi Iwai from Open Suse has released patches to
enable experimental multitouch support to the Xorg-devel
Would you mind doing the same sniffing for that special driver I linked
to? That driver really does enable multi-finger detection on touchpads
that have never supported it before, even in Windows!
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Thanks Tob for letting know that and also about your work. Rest all I
will read in the bug report when I get time.
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Thanks Tob for letting know that and also about your work. Rest all I
will read in the bug report when I get time.
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@ Dana
You should not any tweaking for enabling multitouch or rather multitouch
emulation for synaptics touchpad that does not support multitouch natively.
Just do some tweaking with the original synaptics driver(emulation already
present) in linux and get the emulation of it working.
See
@Dana
I don't think that the driver that you linked to is actually using true
multitouch. They would have provided pinch-zoom and rotate functionality if
they had a true multitouch driver. Some older Synaptics touchpads can report
the number of fingers touching the touchpad or the driver can
No, I am quite absolutely sure that that IS enabling real multi-finger
detection read the comments! It seems to be patching the firmware
of the touchpad, somehow.
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No, I am quite absolutely sure that that IS enabling real multi-finger
detection read the comments! It seems to be patching the firmware
of the touchpad, somehow.
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Anyway, that's not the main issue being discussed on this bug... it's just that
the technique you used would be useful for that, too:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/546697
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From all I've seen it is either enabling functions in the windows drivers (not
the firmware!), or is simply using emulation (which has turned on by default
on linux in recent versions). Check their advanced features enabled info
here, no multitouch:
http://www.synaptics.com/support/drivers
new bug... there's this one I just linked to above!
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/546697
And with that, I am done with this thread here.
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** Also affects: utouch
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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There is a PKGBUILD for Arch Linux here:
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41592
The patch files are there, and if you have a look at the PKGBUILD you
can see how it is build (these are just bash scripts, you can do the
same routine manually and adapt the last install
Guys I found this page which contains three patches by the author
reported on phoronix.com (Takashi Iwai):
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-
input/list/?order=submitterpage=16
I don't know how to compile the driver so if someone wants to try them
or tell me the steps to follow I'll be
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=ODY2Mw
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This looks promising...can anybody help me out applying these patches? I
can't seem to find a download link. Or will they be part of a future
synaptic upgrade?
TIA
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Same problem with last Synaptic driver (v7.4) from Maverick.
Do you need other command's log ?
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This other driver is not emulation -- it adds native multitouch to ANY
touchpad, even ones that didn't originally do multitouch even in
Windows! We just need to sniff out the initialization sequence -- it
seems to be patching the firmware on the fly.
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Cool now we just need to do that with THIS driver, and we'll get
multi-finger on ALL Synaptics touchpads:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/synaptics-driver-enables-multitouch-gestures-on-older-trackpads/
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Well not exactly Dana. Here we're talking about MT support on Synaptics
v7.2 which actually has native multitouch support, but it is not
recognized by xorg driver. We're not talking about emulation, which by
the way I think is already supported in linux.
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I have found the multitouch initialization sequence for the Synaptics
V7.4 Clickpad touchpad in my HP dv7t Select. The touchpad uses a new 12
byte protocol for multitouch events after it has been properly
initialized. I have not completely figured out the new multitouch
protocol. I would
Hey, someone asked awhile back if any non-Debian users can confirm that
this isn't a Debian-specific issue... I'm using Gentoo. I've read that
it's a Synaptics firmware issue (looks like between versions 6.2 and 6.3
multi-finger detection got turned off). Don't know if that's true or
not, but I've
Jessica, I think you are also affected by the bug because, your
synaptics capabilities show 0,0 in the last, which implies that your
touchpad lacks multitouch support. What you are using is software
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