Hi Ken (and all),
Thanks for your time and patience with this.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:10:49 -0700
Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote:
> On 7/19/2018 12:38 AM, Shai Berger via Unicode wrote:
> > If I cannot trust that
> > people I communicate with make the same choices I make, plain
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:55:17 -0700 Asmus Freytag wrote:
> On 7/18/2018 1:51 AM, Shai Berger via Unicode wrote:
> > The trade-off you seem to prefer is to make the "plain text
> > is universally readable" idea from the core Unicode definition, not
> > applica
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 17:40:50 -0700
Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote:
>
> So your complaint seems to boil down to the claim that if you
> transmit "Hello, world!" to a process which then renders it
> conformantly according to the Unicode Standard (including
> UBA), then that process must somehow
Hi Eli and all,
On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 14:07:50 +0300
Eli Zaretskii via Unicode wrote:
> From: Shai Berger
> >
> > I have no argument with this, but I do think that in such cases it
> > is wrong for the app to pretend that it is still treating the text
> > as plain.
>
> What is "plain text"
On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 12:14:35 -0700
Asmus Freytag via Unicode wrote:
> I would say the problem lies in the attempt to exchange arbitrary raw
> data and expect perfectly compatible rendering [...] Editors for
> plain text will wrap or not wrap lines on presentation [...] The bidi
> case is just
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:22:51 +0300
Eli Zaretskii via Unicode wrote:
>
> Different applications will have different needs here, so there's
> definitely a need to provide applications and users with some control
> of paragraph direction, and the way to do this is define high-level
> protocols
Hello Philippe,
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:37:56 +0200
Philippe Verdy via Unicode wrote:
> A plain text editor should not have a default strong LTR default, it
> should have a weak undetermined direction,
I agree -- but the UTC does not, according to the last entry in
Hello all,
About two and a half years ago, I suggested adding a FAQ about the
applicability of higher-level protocols for bidirectional plaintext, as
specified by http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr9/ -- my suggestion was
to clarify that higher-level protocols can only be applied upon
agreement
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