Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5 version of SLF4J?

2008-04-25 Thread Erik van Oosten
Hi Simon, You should never confuse Java byte code with compiled byte code. I understand there are a few superfluous byte codes, but in the end the JVM determines how to compile it to CPU instructions. Unfortunately I am not aware of what the JVM actually does with unused values. Does it do escape

Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5 version of SLF4J?

2008-04-24 Thread Erik van Oosten
Christopher, As I wrote already on Feb 17: There is another aproach, as taken by http://code.google.com/p/log5j/. It is a wrapper around log4j. I wish they had made it for SLF4J! I am still waiting for someone to this for SLF4J. It should not be hard. I did not yet find the

Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5 version of SLF4J?

2008-04-24 Thread Ceki Gulcu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ceki, I do understand your reasoning, and thank you for your quick response. And since Logback natively implements SLF4J, its API will also not be changed to include any new JSE 5 features, correct? Nor will new method signatures specific to just Logback be

Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5 version of SLF4J?

2008-04-24 Thread Christopher . White
Sr. Programmer 1-617-772-2403 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Erik van Oosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/2008 09:50 AM Please respond to User list for the slf4j project user@slf4j.org To User list for the slf4j project user@slf4j.org cc Subject Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5 version

Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5 version of SLF4J?

2008-04-24 Thread Christopher . White
list for the slf4j project user@slf4j.org cc Subject Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5 version of SLF4J? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ceki, I do understand your reasoning, and thank you for your quick response. And since Logback natively implements SLF4J, its API will also not be changed

Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5 version of SLF4J?

2008-04-24 Thread Joern Huxhorn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did know that I can parameterize up to 2 parameters, which is nice. But I also think that it is annoying to have to remember to change the syntax once you hit 3+ parameters. Along with this, it is also annoying to have to remember to change syntax when logging

Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5 version of SLF4J?

2008-04-24 Thread Christopher . White
, Christopher White Sr. Programmer 1-617-772-2403 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joern Huxhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/2008 10:24 AM Please respond to User list for the slf4j project user@slf4j.org To User list for the slf4j project user@slf4j.org cc Subject Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5

Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5 version of SLF4J?

2008-04-24 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hi Joern, Christopher White's sums the warts in the SLF4J API pretty well: I did know that I can parameterize up to 2 parameters, which is nice. But I also think that it is annoying to have to remember to change the syntax once you hit 3+ parameters. Along with this, it is also

Re: [slf4j-user] Java 5 version of SLF4J?

2008-04-24 Thread Joern Huxhorn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's nice to see that you were on top of this already. My only issue with your fix is that it can be ambiguous as to which comes first (params or exception). I'd much prefer putting the exception at the front of the method signature (as was suggested by another

[slf4j-user] Java 5 version of SLF4J?

2008-04-23 Thread Christopher . White
Has there been any more discussion lately about updating the API to support varargs and perhaps printf? *** IMPORTANT NOTE* The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of