Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-08-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Jim Macalister jimmacalis...@gmail.com wrote: To get to my point. Struts2 is a great framework and we do use it for production systems. I think we should all contribute at least by donating directly to the struts2 developers. This will ensure the life of the

Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-08-01 Thread Jim Macalister
Hi to all, there is no flawless software. Big companies spend millions if not billions for their software and still get issues. How many cases of proven hacks or worst sensitive info leaks have you read ? I think quite a lot. Big companies do use various platforms and especially open source. It

Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-07-31 Thread Frans Thamura
Anyone read this? http://java.dzone.com/articles/was-struts-responsible-apples How we handle this? F

Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-07-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I read that. I don't think we should do anything. The blog post is speculative. Nobody from Apple did tell us if it was really a Struts problem or not. If it is, then well, we can't do anything. This doesn't make Struts a dangerous framework at all, it just highlights you should update when your

Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-07-31 Thread Frans Thamura
Any apple guy here? I.just want to.know.how.struts.use there. I just know they use .action means struts apps. On Jul 31, 2013 7:22 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I read that. I don't think we should do anything. The blog post is speculative. Nobody from Apple did tell us

Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-07-31 Thread vicky b
I browsed through apple site i could not find any clue that it was made in struts, can you please let me know how did the hacker recognized that it was developed in struts, secondly how could he exactly hiek , sorry if this is out of scope for this forum On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Frans

Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-07-31 Thread Antonios Gkogkakis
Hi Vicky, the .action by itself in the Urls is a good hint. Furthermore, if you check the html source you'll probably find struts written somewhere e.g., dojodivs Antonios On 31 July 2013 14:04, vicky b vickyb2...@gmail.com wrote: I browsed through apple site i could not find any clue that

Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-07-31 Thread vicky b
I read through the blog i confused at this statement n Struts 2 before 2.3.15.1 the information following action:, redirect: or redirectAction: is not properly sanitized. Since said information will be evaluated as OGNL expression against the value stack, this introduces the possibility to inject

Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-07-31 Thread Eric Reed
You can't rely on anyone's code for security, not a .jar, not struts, not anything. To guarantee security you need to go through every single entry point and fuzz it yourself. This is a major pain and headache and only .001% of devs do this but don't blame the developers that are providing a

Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-07-31 Thread Dave Newton
The blog post is speculative, but the Hacker News post was by Patrick Lightbody, a WW founder. I'm not convinced OGNL itself is the issue, but rather its unfettered access into internals. An intermediate, sandbox-y layer might resolve that. Dave On Jul 31, 2013 8:22 AM, Christian Grobmeier

Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-07-31 Thread Dale Newfield
On Jul 31, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Dave Newton davelnew...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not convinced OGNL itself is the issue, but rather its unfettered access into internals. An intermediate, sandbox-y layer might resolve that. It's only partially what data ognl can fetch/modify, it's also what it can do.

RE: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-07-31 Thread Martin Gainty
, 31 Jul 2013 14:10:23 +0100 Subject: Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts? From: gkogk...@tcd.ie To: user@struts.apache.org Hi Vicky, the .action by itself in the Urls is a good hint. Furthermore, if you check the html source you'll probably find struts written somewhere e.g., dojodivs Antonios

Re: Apple sec breach.. Struts?

2013-07-31 Thread Paul Benedict
I'll voice my personal opinion. No matter what framework you choose (Struts, MyFaces, Tapestry, etc.), it is the responsibility of all IT shops to do a security vulnerability assessment before first releasing to production and after each update. That is Security 101 because there are multitude of