Hi,

Am 21.08.2019 um 15:47 schrieb Dominik Terweh:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Thanks a lot for the clarification. I was wondering about (10) too.
>
> Following your explanation I was wondering, Does it make sense to anchor 
> sequences, such as in (8) and is it "legal" to use multiple anchors in 
> hierarchical fashion?
> Like A @(B @C D)?

Yes, it is "legal", but you have to be careful. (There are not enough
unit tests for those rules)


>
> Also, is there a difference between the processing of sequences of 
> annotations or literals (given "A" is annotated as A and so on)?
> A @(B C D)
> Vs
> "A" @("B" "C" "D")
> Vs
> A @("B" C "D")


It should not make a difference for the result, but the matching using
literal string epxression is still really inefficient.


Best,


Peter


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> On 21.08.19, 12:10, "Peter Klügl" <peter.klu...@averbis.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     Am 20.08.2019 um 16:09 schrieb Dominik Terweh:
>     >
>     > Dear All,
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > I have some questions regarding processing times and anchors ("@").
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > First of all, is it possible to define an anchor on a disjunction?
>     >
>     > What I tested was to have a simple rule (1) that should start on the
>     > Element in the middle (2). Now this element had a variation (3) but I
>     > could not use the anchor in that case anymore:
>     >
>     > 1) A    B   C;       // works
>     >
>     > 2) A   @B   C;       // works
>     >
>     > 3) A @(B|D) C;       // NOT WORKING
>     >
>     > Is this behaviour intended or simply not supported?
>     >
>     > [NOTE: NOT WORKING means eclipse does not complain, but the rule never
>     > matches]
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > The above led to some testing with a different setup(4), however,
>     > since disjunctions don't seem to work, this was also not valid.
>     >
>     > 4) A @((B C) | (D C));   // NOT WORKING
>     >
>
>     Anchors at disjunct rule elements are syntactically supported but do not
>     work correctly. I will open a bug ticket.
>
>
>     >
>     >
>     > Is there a scenario where anchors are valid in and before brackets?
>     > From my observation I've seen that (5)-(10) are all working as
>     > expected and all start matching on B. But, do they differ in terms of
>     > processing? I noticed slightly longer processing times in (5) and ever
>     > so slightly in (6), but not very indicative. Could (5)-(10) differ in
>     > processing time?
>     >
>     > 5)   A   @B C
>     >
>     > 6)  (A   @B C)
>     >
>     > 7) @(A   @B C)
>     >
>     > 8)   A  @(B C)
>     >
>     > 9)   A @(@B C)
>     >
>     > 10)  A  (@B C)
>     >
>
>     Yes since different combinations of methods are called, but I think
>     there should not be a big difference between (5)-(9).
>
>
>     >
>     >
>     > Since rule (10) works as expected, why does (11) work differently and
>     > start on A but not on B and D? (This would be useful in a scenario
>     > where B and D combined appear less often than A)
>     >
>     > 11) A  ((@B C) | (@D C));   // starts matching on A
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>     I have to check that. I think (10) start with A too.
>
>
>
>     Two comments for anchors and disjunct rule elements:
>
>     Anchors started as a manual option to optimize the rule execution time
>     compared tot he automatic dynamic anchoring. However, the anchor can
>     considerably change the consequences of a rule. For me, the anchor is
>     more of an engineering option which also can be used to speed up the 
> rules.
>
>
>     Disjunct rule elements are not well supported and maintained in Ruta.
>     Their implementation is not efficient and they can lead to unintened
>     matches. Thus, their usage is not allowed in my team and I would not
>     recommend using them right now.
>
>
>     (I will try to find the time to improve the implementation)
>
>
>     Best,
>
>
>     Peter
>
>
>     > Thank you in advance for your answers,
>     >
>     > Best
>     >
>     > Dominik
>     >
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