Re: [ClusterLabs] pcs stonith update problems

2021-07-21 Thread Digimer
On 2021-07-21 8:19 a.m., Tomas Jelinek wrote: > Dne 16. 07. 21 v 16:30 Digimer napsal(a): >> On 2021-07-16 9:26 a.m., Tomas Jelinek wrote: >>> Dne 16. 07. 21 v 6:35 Andrei Borzenkov napsal(a): On 16.07.2021 01:02, Digimer wrote: > Hi all, > >     I've got a predicament... I want

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-21 Thread Digimer
On 2021-07-21 3:26 a.m., Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 04:28:30 + (UTC) > Strahil Nikolov via Users wrote: > >> Hi, >> consider using a 3rd system as a Q disk. Also, you can use iscsi from that >> node as a SBD device, so you will have proper fencing .If

Re: [ClusterLabs] [EXT] Re: Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-21 Thread john tillman
Interesting read. Thank you for providing it! In this follow up post https://techthoughts.typepad.com/managing_computers/2007/10/more-about-quor.html the author mentions the following: Ping tiebreaker Some HA systems provide a ping tiebreaker. To make this work, you pick a address outside

Re: [ClusterLabs] [EXT] Re: Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-21 Thread Andrei Borzenkov
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 3:55 PM Ulrich Windl wrote: > > Hi! > > Maybe someone feels motivated to write some article comparing the concepts > * split brain > * quorum > * fencing > Yet another one? Using your own reply "search is free".

Re: [ClusterLabs] [EXT] Re: Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-21 Thread Ulrich Windl
Hi! Maybe someone feels motivated to write some article comparing the concepts * split brain * quorum * fencing There are eight possible states that I tried to illustrate on the attached sketch (S="Split Brain", "Q=Quorum, F=Fencing). ;-) Regards, Ulrich >>> Andrei Borzenkov 21.07.2021,

Re: [ClusterLabs] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] VIP monitor Timed Out

2021-07-21 Thread Ulrich Windl
Hi! I can't access the documents I wrote when we had this problem, but here is wat a recent search brought up: https://superuser.com/questions/1088683/is-there-a-way-to-limit-buffer-cache-size-in-linux https://serverfault.com/questions/126413/limit-linux-background-flush-dirty-pages

Re: [ClusterLabs] pcs stonith update problems

2021-07-21 Thread Tomas Jelinek
Dne 16. 07. 21 v 16:30 Digimer napsal(a): On 2021-07-16 9:26 a.m., Tomas Jelinek wrote: Dne 16. 07. 21 v 6:35 Andrei Borzenkov napsal(a): On 16.07.2021 01:02, Digimer wrote: Hi all,    I've got a predicament... I want to update a stonith resource to remove an argument. Specifically, when

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-21 Thread Christine caulfield
On 21/07/2021 09:50, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: OpenVMS can do this sort of thing without a requirement for fencing (you still need a third disk as a quorum device in a 2-node cluster), but Linux (at least in its current form) cannot. From what I can tell the fencing requirements in the Linux

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-21 Thread Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 04:50:09 -0400 "Frank D. Engel, Jr." wrote: > OpenVMS can do this sort of thing without a requirement for fencing (you > still need a third disk as a quorum device in a 2-node cluster), but > Linux (at least in its current form) cannot. Yes it can, as far as what you are

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-21 Thread Andrei Borzenkov
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 11:50 AM Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: > > OpenVMS can do this sort of thing without a requirement for fencing (you > still need a third disk as a quorum device in a 2-node cluster), but > Linux (at least in its current form) cannot. From what I can tell the > fencing

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-21 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
OpenVMS can do this sort of thing without a requirement for fencing (you still need a third disk as a quorum device in a 2-node cluster), but Linux (at least in its current form) cannot. From what I can tell the fencing requirements in the Linux solution are mainly due to limitations of how

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-21 Thread Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais
Hi, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 04:28:30 + (UTC) Strahil Nikolov via Users wrote: > Hi, > consider using a 3rd system as a Q disk. Also, you can use iscsi from that > node as a SBD device, so you will have proper fencing .If you don't have a > hardware watchdog device, you can use softdog kernel